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    The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

    This opinion piece is a great look at the philosophy of why we have COVID-19, how we're dealing with it and where it will eventually take us. Pull up a chair and a coffee; it's a long read, but well worth the effort.

    The Coronation

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    I just got to (a rather good) piece titled "The Need For Venture Science", not a mention of Covid-19 anywhere. Is it this?

    https://charleseisenstein.org/essays/the-coronation/

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    WTF is this crap?

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    Yeah, I have to agree with you Trade_Nancy... it's a bit hippie love-in at the end isn't it?

    He's missed humans playing ruthlessly for competitive advantage and completely missed 'sometimes people are just dicks' stuff too. The big picture stuff that the essay started with was good, very thought provoking... shame it went downhill badly toward the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OddDuck View Post
    Yeah, I have to agree with you Trade_Nancy... it's a bit hippie love-in at the end isn't it?

    He's missed humans playing ruthlessly for competitive advantage and completely missed 'sometimes people are just dicks' stuff too. The big picture stuff that the essay started with was good, very thought provoking... shame it went downhill badly toward the end.
    The shrooms kicked in.
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    May not be the place to post this, but...

    According to something I read recently, about 7 million people die each year as a result of air pollution.

    If this many were to die of Covid, the entire world would be filled with weeping, wailing and the gnashing of teeth.

    How come we don't react the same to air pollution deaths?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    ... How come we don't react the same to air pollution deaths?
    Because the deaths mostly occur in 3rd world cities ... or places where it's not mentioned in the papers. Like japan and China.

    It's just regarded as a hazard of living in big cities ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    May not be the place to post this, but...

    According to something I read recently, about 7 million people die each year as a result of air pollution.
    During the current pandemic, with lockdowns etc and a vast drop in transport, this number will drop significantly.

    If this many were to die of Covid, the entire world would be filled with weeping, wailing and the gnashing of teeth.

    How come we don't react the same to air pollution deaths?
    The author made that exact point in his article: because air pollution is under our control (or could be), but Covid-19 isn't and therefore is terrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    May not be the place to post this, but...

    According to something I read recently, about 7 million people die each year as a result of air pollution.
    During the current pandemic, with lockdowns etc and a vast drop in transport, this number will drop significantly.

    If this many were to die of Covid, the entire world would be filled with weeping, wailing and the gnashing of teeth.

    How come we don't react the same to air pollution deaths?
    More people have died from vaping in nz than covid so far.
    No doubt that is down to the fantastic response to this by our government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    May not be the place to post this, but...

    According to something I read recently, about 7 million people die each year as a result of air pollution.
    During the current pandemic, with lockdowns etc and a vast drop in transport, this number will drop significantly.

    If this many were to die of Covid, the entire world would be filled with weeping, wailing and the gnashing of teeth.

    How come we don't react the same to air pollution deaths?
    Air pollution deaths wont significantly drop at all. Air pollution deaths are a long term thing,

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPenguin View Post
    Air pollution deaths wont significantly drop at all. Air pollution deaths are a long term thing,
    Well then the whole world needs to peak out & go into lockdown about it.

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    It's all about perspective, here's a line from an article I read recently:

    Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year.

    The covid-19 pandemic has so far taken about 110,000 and while I wouldn't want to compare it with the flu, many elements are similar.

    The global figures reported at present make it rather plain that China is dodgy
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPenguin View Post
    Air pollution deaths wont significantly drop at all. Air pollution deaths are a long term thing,
    Well, yeah, I prolly could have phrased that more betterer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Well then the whole world needs to peak out & go into lockdown about it.
    I sense a bit of lockdown angst. Chill, it will be over soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPenguin View Post
    I sense a bit of lockdown angst. Chill, it will be over soon.
    I'm in a happy bubble & am planning to spend a lot more time living this way when it's over.
    I'm just seeing a double standard.

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