Post Pandemic Lockdown Scenarios

[FJRider]

Have you moved?

Yep. Work on Stewart Island. Live in Dunedin.

Semi retired ... I work one week in two ... paid for both weeks.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Do you want to post up your CV so we know who you are?

Not much comprehension going on there. Keep rubbin your nub .

[Katman]

Not much comprehension going on there. Keep rubbin your nub .

That's poms for ya.

[flyingcrocodile46]

And - with respect as he's obviously intelligent - the OP has form on here for starting major shitfights and either walking or being pushed away.
Look at the Vaccination thread.

At this point in time any post pandemic scenario is premature.

You suggest I'm intelligent then appear to be suggesting that I needed to stick around wasting time on dipshits or had to run away from them when I had accomplished all I intended with my first post.

I wasn't telling people not to vaccinate, and even said it was ok if there was a real risk out there (like we have now), rather than being brain dead fuckwits queuing out of fear or obedience to buy a product that wasn't even required just to pad out the profits of companies who's primary products are medicines to cure the dear of fuck all.

It ain't in their interest to actually find real cures /solutions to real diseases/problems. They make their money out of placebos, snake oil and long term treatments to make you more comfortable as they suck your money out of you. If they were harvesting brains they wouldn't want to know you.

[Berries]

Not much comprehension going on there. Keep rubbin your nub .

My comprehension is fine. What I couldn't understand is why someone would put up one long post of their hypothetical thinking, follow that up with an admitted cut and paste job and then book end that with an offer of a confidential chat if anyone needed to talk about any concerns that you may have raised.

I figured with that offer you might be a qualified counsellor but you really need to say that, hence the request for more information if you want to be taken seriously. Judging by your response to Grumph above you are quite clearly not even close to being in that field.

That only leaves one option, and to be honest I thought grooming was illegal.

[FJRider]

It's a perfect time to switch to a resource based economy. Because stuff.

Nah. The rich want to get richer ... and the rest just want more.

And no job is pointless if somebody is willing to pay money for somebody to do it it. A large part of the NZ economy is based on luxury goods and services. Even the lower income families have their luxury items they just can't do without.

Some jobs may be thankless ... but definitely not pointless. Somebody wins ... but it's seldom the worker.


And the one's calling the shots in the coming year ... will be the one's with money.

[FJRider]

Not much comprehension going on there. Keep rubbin your nub .

Where did you copy and paste from ... so I'll know what site's to avoid.

Looks like you already had a rub ...

[mashman]

... and the rest just want more.

I've found that the rest predominantly want better... and that does not equate more.

And the one's calling the shots in the coming year ... will be the one's with money.

And they say that the rest just want more

"Abandon hope all ye who enter here."

[TheDemonLord]

YOU mentioned the high suicide rate. Not ALL mental health suffers are suicidal.

You are aware that within the spectrum of people with Mental Health issues, there is an extremely tight overlap with people who either attempt or complete Suicide?

I never implied, infered or suggested that all people who had Mental health problems are suicidal.

Unless it is YOU having mental health issues ... STAY THE FUCK AT HOME ... (and you said it was for YOUR mental health)

Social distancing is not the only reason some of those activities are not allowed. Risk of accidental need for rescue or assistance is. Putting others at risk.

No, I didn't.

I'm not sure what you are reading, but by the rebuttals you make it bears little resemblance to what I post.

Like I said - Are you high?

Judging by the stuff he posts ... his mental health has suffered ... Quite some time ago. Or the rules don't apply to him.

My Mental Health is fine, I'm not going to lie the past few weeks have been difficult - however you seem to have great trouble understanding this - I've followed the Rules, I've stayed local, Gone out for Exercise (as we are allowed to) and maintained Social Distancing.

I am questioning that there are a number of additional activities which do not violate any of the social distancing mandates and thus pose no risk to spreading the disease by the vectors that we understand it is transmitted but have nonetheless been banned. That Ban, represents an infringement of Civil Liberties (something I hold in high regard, and you should too), without a legitimate justification. That part is what concerns me.


and no, I don't buy the 'but you might need rescuing argument' - The numbers, assuming the worst case scenario are nowhere near sufficient to have any large scale impact.

[TheDemonLord]

It ain't in their interest to actually find real cures /solutions to real diseases/problems.

Actually it is.

The longer you stay alive, the more likely you are to develop a myriad of age-related ailments that cost lots and lots to treat.

Someone who drops dead of a Heart Attack at age 50, is nowhere near as profitable (accepting all of your premises) as someone who is 99 and has to take a multitude of Pills each day to stave off the inevitable.

If anything, given the target demographic who are most at risk to Coronavirus (Old age people with pre-existing health conditions) - 'Big Pharma' actually has a massively vested interest in finding a cure for it, it's killing off their biggest customer base.

[Gearup]

and no, I don't buy the 'but you might need rescuing argument' - The numbers, assuming the worst case scenario are nowhere near sufficient to have any large scale impact.

Where are you getting those numbers from?

[TheDemonLord]

Where are you getting those numbers from?

You take the number of people that would normally engage in those activities, then you factor in the percentage reduction based on similar activities.

For example - when walking along the beach - before Lockdown, there'd be about 200 or so people in total, after lockdown, about 10.

So, a 95% reduction, for an activity you are allowed to do. Take that same reduction, and it gives a figure of 9/10ths of fuck-all people.

If you really want to get Meta, though you can assume that those fractions of the group that would still want to go and Hunt, Swim in the Ocean, Surf etc. are most likely to be amongst the most dedicated individuals to that pursuit, so you can make an inference that with the weekend-warriors filtered out, the average skill level amongst those still doing the activity will be much higher and therefore the likelyhood of needing rescuing is even smaller.

Or are you suggesting that if the Police say that you can go Hunt now, that every forest will be filled to the brim with every single hunter in all of NZ?

[sidecar bob]

You take the number of people that would normally engage in those activities, then you factor in the percentage reduction based on similar activities.

For example - when walking along the beach - before Lockdown, there'd be about 200 or so people in total, after lockdown, about 10.

So, a 95% reduction, for an activity you are allowed to do. Take that same reduction, and it gives a figure of 9/10ths of fuck-all people.

If you really want to get Meta, though you can assume that those fractions of the group that would still want to go and Hunt, Swim in the Ocean, Surf etc. are most likely to be amongst the most dedicated individuals to that pursuit, so you can make an inference that with the weekend-warriors filtered out, the average skill level amongst those still doing the activity will be much higher and therefore the likelyhood of needing rescuing is even smaller.

Or are you suggesting that if the Police say that you can go Hunt now, that every forest will be filled to the brim with every single hunter in all of NZ?

And I see mother Jacinda gave us a quick advance telling off on the news last night "now is not the time to be taking up new pursuits" what about learning the bagpipes?

[jasonu]

And I see mother Jacinda gave us a quick advance telling off on the news last night "now is not the time to be taking up new pursuits" what about learning the bagpipes?

Or the skinflute

[MaxPenguin]

I see in the states that there are protest marches in several cities, protesting the lockdown. Good way to spread c-19.