Jackrat, Wkid

[bluninja]

I'll re word it - I saw how Spook had a go at you blu and it was my prime motivation for starting my own little troll - sorry was a supportive thing!

Why thankyou.

It's wierd that this guy ostensibly isn't a troll, but behaves like one. Hmmmm...what would happen if we merged the BUACA and the God thread
Priest...men of god or child abusers?

[Zed]

Why thankyou.

It's wierd that this guy ostensibly isn't a troll, but behaves like one. Hmmmm...what would happen if we merged the BUACA and the God thread
Priest...men of god or child abusers?

Lol, it's hilarious how some of the more serious threads get you guys going! You had better not merge those two cos it would be more than you could handle...


Zed

[Hitcher]

What's worng with me now....I could get a complex you know

I'm having one of those days. I think I'll lower my sights and settle for a "simple" instead of a "complex"...

[Jackrat]

Lol, it's hilarious how some of the more serious threads get you guys going! You had better not merge those two cos it would be more than you could handle...


Zed

Yep,I havn't posted on this one yet because it does reqiure a bit more thought than I normaly like to put in.
Anyway If any of you go back to the Buaca Thread you will see my latest comments on the issue.I still feel it is a good idea,but I have major issues with the crowd pushing it(go see).
Now I have just come off the Oz site pushing this thing and they have now lowered themselfs to slaging off Kiwis in general.Shit just as well we didn't piss off the Yanks huh,We might be facing an invasion by now.
What they mainly fail to see is that there is already plenty of REAL men and women in NZ that are addressing this issue,,,So who needs a bunch of self proclaimed heros with Very dodgy back grounds themselfs interfearing with important issues like this.Just in case you didn't know it Spook and his mates are very vocal supporters of the Oz criminal bike clubs.So with that in mind I reckon they will never get the support of thinking people.As I pointed out to them on their own site,,,We just ain't that stupid but we can spot a hypocrite
a mile off.

[James Deuce]

Yep,I havn't posted on this one yet because it does reqiure a bit more thought than I normaly like to put in.
Anyway If any of you go back to the Buaca Thread you will see my latest comments on the issue.I still feel it is a good idea,but I have major issues with the crowd pushing it(go see).
Now I have just come off the Oz site pushing this thing and they have now lowered themselfs to slaging off Kiwis in general.Shit just as well we didn't piss off the Yanks huh,We might be facing an invasion by now.
What they mainly fail to see is that there is already plenty of REAL men and women in NZ that are addressing this issue,,,So who needs a bunch of self proclaimed heros with Very dodgy back grounds themselfs interfearing with important issues like this.Just in case you didn't know it Spook and his mates are very vocal supporters of the Oz criminal bike clubs.So with that in mind I reckon they will never get the support of thinking people.As I pointed out to them on their own site,,,We just ain't that stupid but we can spot a hypocrite
a mile off.

Thanks for the heads up - I'd kinda come to the same conclusion after reading the site, hence the non-constructive "negative" baiting.

I like doing Toy Runs because you can see where your contribution goes and you know the Sallies will dish them out. I think there are enough Govt Agencies and charities out there already and we would do well to support them rather than create another beauracracy. Probably a more effective way for a minority group to contribute IMHO.

Can't be long before those US lapdogs next door invade an annex NZ anyway.

[bungbung]

These guys... (buaca news link)

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,590038910,00.html

[MikeL]

Have avoided contributing to this discussion because I can't make up my mind whether this BUACA thing is for real. I'm also a bit perturbed about the direction the KB forum is taking in general. The last few weeks have given me a lot of food for thought. I relish controversy and the frank exchange of divergent opinions and am willing to accept that even f*ckwits have their place in the scheme of things. But all this trolling and baiting, ego-tripping and name-calling and pointless posturing while initially entertaining has the potential to p*ss off people who feel their time is more valuable and will drift away...
I've got heaps out of KB over the last year - met (in real- as well as cyber-space) a lot of great people, gone on some awesome rides, learned a lot about bikes and biking as well as other things. It's a real community that I think has a unique value in bringing together people who otherwise would probably never interact. For me it's been a very enriching experience. I'd hate to find my enthusiasm waning because of what I've outlined above. I don't know what the answer is. What do you think?

[James Deuce]

Good point Mike.

I think a healthy wind-up or two is good value, but if it descends into name calling then its probably gone a bit far.

I think we should probably organise a KB-AKL, KB-WLG hookup in Taupo one weekend as a starter, and maybe a yearly Nth Is., Sth Is. visit. That way you get to meet the real people and people behave very differently face to face, compared with electronic anonymity.

Any starters? Shall we look at setting up a event in the events forum or what?

[jrandom]

I'm also a bit perturbed about the direction the KB forum is taking in general.

Hence my rather violent recent responses to Zed et al.

If regular members who would rather promote sane and enjoyable discussion simply ignore the trolls, they *will* go away. Much of the recent unpleasantness has been propagated by long-time members responding heatedly to obvious windups and silliness.

[Zed]

Hence my rather violent recent responses to Zed et al.

If regular members who would rather promote sane and enjoyable discussion simply ignore the trolls, they *will* go away. Much of the recent unpleasantness has been propagated by long-time members responding heatedly to obvious windups and silliness.

Jrandom, while your recent responses to me may have been more "violent" than normal, the fact is that every post you have ever written in relation to a post of mine has been negative!...even your first ever response: "And Zed, I say that you, sir, are a troll." Also, remember that malicious poll you created that was withdrawn by the administrator! Not to mention your utter rudeness when you told me to "F..k off and die" in one of your famous posts. Then I PM'd you politely and you backlashed at me again- no win situation with you man.

I have contributed many genuine posts in this forum so far to which you havn't responded positively whatsoever, yet you continue to call me a troll!

I believe that you have a problem with me personally and are deliberately trying to be a jerk- typical human nature.



Zed

[georgedubyabush]

I believe that you have a problem with me personally (probably God) and are deliberately trying to be a jerk- typical human nature.

I'm sorry? "...me personally (probably god)."

that's one hell of a fruedian slip

[Zed]

I'm sorry? "...me personally (probably god)."

that's one hell of a fruedian slip

What a stirrer!!

[Hitcher]

These guys... (buaca news link)

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,590038910,00.html

An interesting read thanks Bung. It confirms my suspicions about vigilante justice. Despite everybody's concerns about child abuse, we do live in a civilised society... or at least endeavour to.

[bluninja]

An interesting read thanks Bung. It confirms my suspicions about vigilante justice. Despite everybody's concerns about child abuse, we do live in a civilised society... or at least endeavour to.

I don't know what the 'real' situation was in that news report, but I wonder how many people would seek to intervene if they saw anyone being beaten...let alone a small child. I guess it's not whether people would intervene if they thought it right, as much as how they would intervene.

Well I've given up with the BUACA thread. No matter what's posted, no further information comes back, just personally disparaging comments. Quite clearly they are not reading or ignoring what's already said..... or perhaps I'm a gay biker with 3 kids.

[LB]

I think we should probably organise a KB-AKL, KB-WLG hookup in Taupo one weekend as a starter, and maybe a yearly Nth Is., Sth Is. visit. That way you get to meet the real people and people behave very differently face to face, compared with electronic anonymity.

Any starters? Shall we look at setting up a event in the events forum or what?

Jim2: I'm a starter (providing the weekend suits)