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    Caught on my ZX6R on my Learner's.

    Hey all,

    Not really a question as I fully understand the consequences of my actions, but I was pulled over last week riding past a cop on the motorway. They ran my plates and followed me as the bike came up as an "F" and I as an "L".

    They were great about it and said they didn't really have a problem as I have been riding for five years but have been overseas for a period.

    Anyone know the fine and demerits? They didn't write me up then and there but said they'll send something in the post. I'm probably going to continue to ride the bike to work and back as I don't see it as a big deal, but will they now be on the lookout for me?

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerOger1986 View Post
    Hey all,

    Not really a question as I fully understand the consequences of my actions, but I was pulled over last week riding past a cop on the motorway. They ran my plates and followed me as the bike came up as an "F" and I as an "L".

    They were great about it and said they didn't really have a problem as I have been riding for five years but have been overseas for a period.

    Anyone know the fine and demerits? They didn't write me up then and there but said they'll send something in the post. I'm probably going to continue to ride the bike to work and back as I don't see it as a big deal, but will they now be on the lookout for me?

    Cheers.
    Ah? Yeah! they will keep an eye out and don't forget it doesn't take many demerits to lose your licence these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerOger1986 View Post
    Hey all,

    Not really a question as I fully understand the consequences of my actions, but I was pulled over last week riding past a cop on the motorway. They ran my plates and followed me as the bike came up as an "F" and I as an "L".

    They were great about it and said they didn't really have a problem as I have been riding for five years but have been overseas for a period.

    Anyone know the fine and demerits? They didn't write me up then and there but said they'll send something in the post. I'm probably going to continue to ride the bike to work and back as I don't see it as a big deal, but will they now be on the lookout for me?

    Cheers.
    The same cop(s) who pulled you over may certainly recognise you and pull you over again to check, but I doubt there's now a region wide alert for your make/model/colour of bike.

    If you're caught again, there's 0 chance they'll let you off since you'd already been caught. Though it sounds like they didn't let you off this (first) time anyway.

    Your bigger issue should be insurance - if you crash in to a Ferrari and write it off, will your insurer cover you? Probably not, since you weren't adhering to your license's conditions.

    Not sure on a bike, but in a car it's a 35 demerits and a $100 fine for carrying a non-full license passenger while on a restricted license, which is somewhat comparable to your situation (in breach of license conditions).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerOger1986 View Post
    Hey all,

    Not really a question as I fully understand the consequences of my actions, but I was pulled over last week riding past a cop on the motorway. They ran my plates and followed me as the bike came up as an "F" and I as an "L".

    They were great about it and said they didn't really have a problem as I have been riding for five years but have been overseas for a period.

    Anyone know the fine and demerits? They didn't write me up then and there but said they'll send something in the post. I'm probably going to continue to ride the bike to work and back as I don't see it as a big deal, but will they now be on the lookout for me?

    Cheers.
    Not riding or driving to the conditions of your motorcycle license in nz I think is $400 and 25 demerit points.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The End View Post
    The same cop(s) who pulled you over may certainly recognise you and pull you over again to check, but I doubt there's now a region wide alert for your make/model/colour of bike.

    If you're caught again, there's 0 chance they'll let you off since you'd already been caught. Though it sounds like they didn't let you off this (first) time anyway.

    Your bigger issue should be insurance - if you crash in to a Ferrari and write it off, will your insurer cover you? Probably not, since you weren't adhering to your license's conditions.

    Not sure on a bike, but in a car it's a 35 demerits and a $100 fine for carrying a non-full license passenger while on a restricted license, which is somewhat comparable to your situation (in breach of license conditions).
    The random reg check got him the first time, the second time might require an appearance in court. With (up to) a $1000 fine.

    Terms and conditions of insurance policies vary. He would need to read his own policy ... if he has one. If not ... he personally may be held liable for any damage he causes to anything he hits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerOger1986 View Post
    Hey all,

    Not really a question as I fully understand the consequences of my actions, but I was pulled over last week riding past a cop on the motorway. They ran my plates and followed me as the bike came up as an "F" and I as an "L".

    They were great about it and said they didn't really have a problem as I have been riding for five years but have been overseas for a period.

    Anyone know the fine and demerits? They didn't write me up then and there but said they'll send something in the post. I'm probably going to continue to ride the bike to work and back as I don't see it as a big deal, but will they now be on the lookout for me?

    Cheers.
    hows your insurance?. nowadays they log warnings against you, and it's all over the country in a split second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    The random reg check got him the first time, the second time might require an appearance in court. With (up to) a $1000 fine.

    Terms and conditions of insurance policies vary. He would need to read his own policy ... if he has one. If not ... he personally may be held liable for any damage he causes to anything he hits.
    You raise a great point, let's all set up limited liability companies and let them "own" the motorcycle. That way when we write off a vintage Ferrari we're not personally liable...if only

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    Quote Originally Posted by The End View Post
    You raise a great point, let's all set up limited liability companies and let them "own" the motorcycle. That way when we write off a vintage Ferrari we're not personally liable...if only
    might work ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
    Ah? Yeah! they will keep an eye out and don't forget it doesn't take many demerits to lose your licence these days.
    Still 100 demerits. BUT ... the increased amount of points "Awarded" for the various offenses ... has increased the speed of which the loss happens.
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    google CBTA and get it done. cheaper than your next ticket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The End View Post
    Your bigger issue should be insurance - if you crash in to a Ferrari and write it off, will your insurer cover you? Probably not, since you weren't adhering to your license's conditions.

    Not sure on a bike, but in a car it's a 35 demerits and a $100 fine for carrying a non-full license passenger while on a restricted license, which is somewhat comparable to your situation (in breach of license conditions).
    The insurer must prove behind all reasonable doubt that the fact that he had a L and not an F license was material to the accident. I.e. would the outcome have been somehow different if he had a LAMS bike?

    I had someone absolutely destroy my bike (not at fault). Didn’t have the right license, nor was I insured but the at fault party was. They paid. Not willingly, but they paid.

    Also, the average age of NZs passenger car fleet is 10 years (so mostly shitboxes). Since insurance is all about risk, as an exercise calculate the chances that you’ll crash. Out of those incidents, calculate the chances that you’re at fault. Out of those incidents, calculate the probability that you hit something that is in the top 5th percentile of call cars on the road. Sure you “might” hit a Ferrari but you “might” slip in the bathroom, hit your head on the toilet and die as well.

    Just so we’re clear I’m not advocating reckless behaviour but facts are important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Still 100 demerits. BUT ... the increased amount of points "Awarded" for the various offenses ... has increased the speed of which the loss happens.
    the thing that pisses me off about that is you get demerits for all sorts of bullshit that is not road safety related. It is very poor form and unsportsmanlike.
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    Demerits: https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-lice...driver-licence
    I can only find a car restricted page that easily summarises demerit and fine together (https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-lice...nts-and-fines/) but looks like $100.

    Do it again (well, and get caught) and you can expect heavier penalties, and they'll stack up. If you have insurance, you have to declare all fines etc. They can forbid you to drive, disqualify you, and if you drive/ride while disqualified, it's automatic impound of the vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    I can only find a car restricted page that easily summarises demerit and fine together (https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-lice...nts-and-fines/) but looks like $100.
    If he only has a learners license ... I think the "No L Plates Fitted" is an added charge as well.
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