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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Minor point - you can't walk in to a welfare office anymore (guy in Ashburton saw to that) You have to phone in and make an appointment. If you dont have a phone or the ability to use one then that creates all sorts of problems.
    Various groups like the Salvation army, most churches, citizens advice, and the front desk at a police station can and will help, be it sending them to the right people, or arranging for it to be done.

    Any I-site would point them to places that will help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    'Black lives matters' as a slogan refers to the unequal human rights afforded to some people over others.

    Its a catchy phrase, and anyone using it as a basis for argument is a fucking moron.
    Isn't it a movement for people to get smart TV's and Air Jordans without paying for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Its a catchy phrase, and anyone using it as a basis for argument is a fucking moron.
    A link if you need to know more about them. And donate to their cause.

    https://blacklivesmatter.com/

    Unequal human rights are afforded to other race and skin colours in the US .... not just the black ones. Not much is said about them.

    From their own declarations ...

    As Black Lives Matter, we recognize and affirm the sanctity of all Black lives everywhere in the world.

    I could have got it all wrong ... and they're just New Zealand Rugby supporters. But I doubt that is the case.


    From Wiki even ...

    Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against black people.The broader movement and its related organizations typically advocate against police violence towards black people as well as for various other policy changes considered to be related to black liberation
    Personally ... I like the "Non-violent" bit ... and the "All racially motivated violence against black people" bit. Apparently all/any violence against black people is racially motivated. It has to be ... right .. ??? A black person wouldn't do harm to anybody.

    As opposed to your ...

    'Black lives matters' as a slogan refers to the unequal human rights afforded to some people over others.

    I personally believe that the gaining popularity of the BLM movement ... is more to do with supporters trying to prove they aren't racist if they support the movement.

    The BLM is NOT about unequal rights afforded to "Some and not others" ... it is all about one skin colour. Guess which one.

    I wonder how the financial support is going from all the popularity and good intentions ...

    Trump's win or loss in the elections might be a factor in BLM's spread or decline. But ... Plenty of Black people supporting Trump too.

    Are you following the US elections ... ??

    From the Aussie TAB.

    https://www.tab.com.au/sports/bettin.../US%20Election

    Trump is the favourite.
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    I’ve got Trump on the nose for the election win.

    Good return at $2.35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Question: how many non gun owners have shot people?
    A lot of gangs don't own guns...
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    Jesus arse fucking Christ, of course religion comes into it.
    Sadly their viewpoint on the E.o.L referendum relates to the religious lot missing out on bleeding people dry emotionally and finacially, rather than being empathetic to the pain and suffering the individual is enduring.
    Thankfully sense prevailed in the referendum voting!
    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    'Black lives matters' as a slogan refers to the unequal human rights afforded to some people over others.
    It should be called the "end police violence" cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Question: how many non gun owners have shot people?
    Legal ownership of a gun is not requirement to kill people with a gun ... you just need to be in possession of one.

    Ownership of ... and possession of ... are two totally different situations.

    You wont get time off your sentence for being a licensed firearms owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    A link if you need to know more about them. And donate to their cause.

    https://blacklivesmatter.com/
    Many people may not be aware of some subtleties within the BLM movement.

    During the civil unrest at Ferguson, and other demonstrations following the killing of a black person by the police, slogans like "Hands up don't shoot" and Black lives matter" became popular. Subsequently a group of opportunists registered the name "Black lives matter.' These people were not among the leaders at Ferguson, if they were there at all. They later claimed that the people who were involved in the demonstrations and who started the BLM movement were not members of the movement. This presumably because the activists had not payed a sub to BLM Inc. Naturally the activists were not impressed.

    There is still the wider BLM movement, these people support the cause and the slogan, they may have no interest in furthering the financial fortunes of "BLM Inc".

    Personally I am sympathetic to the wider movement, but dislike BLM Inc. One good thing the latter may have done was take the attention of law enforcement away from the people actually doing the hard yards.
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    What the fuck has Black Lives Matter got to do with the cannabis referendum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    What the fuck has Black Lives Matter got to do with the cannabis referendum?
    Just another failed implementation of Government policies ... attracting sporadic public support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Legal ownership of a gun is not requirement to kill people with a gun ... you just need to be in possession of one.

    Ownership of ... and possession of ... are two totally different situations.

    You wont get time off your sentence for being a licensed firearms owner.
    I dont believe I ever used the word Legal in my question.

    But yes it is off topic.
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