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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    There is some mention of Anslinger's motivations made in the following article (see paragraph 6):

    https://www.quora.com/Why-was-hemp-m...1-list-in-1970

    Hemp fibre was also seen as a competitor to cotton, in terms of producing a fibre able to be woven and made into cloth suitable for wearing. I'd read that the US cotton industry had also petitioned Anslinger, but I can't find the references.
    As for Anslinger's "Motivation" ... " A Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men." Harry J. Anslinger, U.S. Narcotics Comissioner.

    https://www.greenlifeorganics.com/bl...-hemp-outlawed

    I like the comment ... "Conspiracy Theorists believe these industries funded misinformation campaigns to make a way for these new technologies to replace Hemp" ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    Morning.

    Most of the material I have read has focused on the "health related" aspects. I had seen only very limited mention of other industries (e.g. petrochemical and cotton) arguing against hemp.

    There was mention of petrochemical companies (e.g. du Pont) having an interest in this area, due to hemp being a potential competitor for the newly developed nylon (or rayon). Which puts the petitioning of Anslinger by du Pont - as well as the implementation of the hemp taxation regime - in further context.

    Demand for nylon sky-rocketed in the period 1940-1945, due to the demand for cord to be used in the making of parachutes. Du Pont was unable to produce nylon in sufficient volumes, so the US Government did resort to commissioning farmers to grow hemp (in order to meet the demand).

    There is some mention of Anslinger's motivations made in the following article (see paragraph 6):

    https://www.quora.com/Why-was-hemp-m...1-list-in-1970

    Hemp fibre was also seen as a competitor to cotton, in terms of producing a fibre able to be woven and made into cloth suitable for wearing. I'd read that the US cotton industry had also petitioned Anslinger, but I can't find the references.
    Hi there.

    I love the irony of reverting to Hemp to keep up with demand given that war was a thirsty business and oil was relatively young. The thing is, there is a place for oil, as there is a place for cotton and a place for Hemp, just not in business, and therein lies the problem. The Owners of Production shape the future, which, by default, shapes education across virtually all fields of human endeavour to be limited to that which is required to inhabit that future. Hemp was not a part of that future, else it would exist in vast quantities given its versatility and lower costs of production. Kind of ironic that competition needs to be kept out of markets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    ... Hemp was not a part of that future, else it would exist in vast quantities given its versatility and lower costs of production. Kind of ironic that competition needs to be kept out of markets.
    With greater costs of production ... greater wealth is spread around.

    Different times meant different attitudes. But to date ... Hemp is still not part of the future.

    Competition expects a winner. With the relaxation / reform of the drug laws (this threads topic) ... will there be a winner .. ??

    And if everybody wins ... was it really a competition ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    But to date ... Hemp is still not part of the future.
    But it could be.

    https://hempplastic.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    With greater costs of production ... greater wealth is spread around.

    Different times meant different attitudes. But to date ... Hemp is still not part of the future.

    Competition expects a winner. With the relaxation / reform of the drug laws (this threads topic) ... will there be a winner .. ??

    And if everybody wins ... was it really a competition ??
    There's very little other reason for things to have turned out the way they have. Wealth creation is a stupid reason to do anything, but hey.

    The "winners", people who benefit, will be those who no longer have to look over their shoulder if they fancy a quick smoke for whatever reason (lage demographic), be it for medication purposes or purely for the pleasure of getting wankered. The legal status of the plant is testimony to just how stupid this world is and just how dangerous doing something for wealth creation reasons is, but again, hey.

    Is it really winning when someone takes something from you and then gives it back to you? Is it really competition when the game was written over a hundred years ago and is going to plan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    There's very little other reason for things to have turned out the way they have. Wealth creation is a stupid reason to do anything, but hey.

    The "winners", people who benefit, will be those who no longer have to look over their shoulder if they fancy a quick smoke for whatever reason (lage demographic), be it for medication purposes or purely for the pleasure of getting wankered. The legal status of the plant is testimony to just how stupid this world is and just how dangerous doing something for wealth creation reasons is, but again, hey.

    Is it really winning when someone takes something from you and then gives it back to you? Is it really competition when the game was written over a hundred years ago and is going to plan?
    Wealth is the basic purpose of Business.

    The Hemp being referred to was the product that is NOT smoked. The hemp used for rope and clothing etc. Not the stuff smoked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    But it could be.

    https://hempplastic.com/
    Invest in it yourself then. What could possibly go wrong ... ???

    I'm guessing you won't though ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Wealth is the basic purpose of Business.

    The Hemp being referred to was the product that is NOT smoked. The hemp used for rope and clothing etc. Not the stuff smoked.
    QED.

    I know, but that's not on the referendum is it
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Invest in it yourself then. What could possibly go wrong ... ???
    There are plenty of hemp related opportunities for people to invest in - if investing in things is your thing.

    https://bioplasticsnews.com/2019/09/...-is-hempcrete/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    even more so with the referendum to kill old people in there
    This is the law that passed through parliament and the legal process, but politicians whimped out on by wanting a referendum on, before enacting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    This is the law that passed through parliament and the legal process, but politicians whimped out on by wanting a referendum on, before enacting.
    Thus stalling the outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    This is the law that passed through parliament and the legal process, but politicians whimped out on by wanting a referendum on, before enacting.
    They funnily enough didn't wimp out on the (UN directed) banning of semi auto firearms, the govt just pushes populist law changes, anything that might make them look bad/unpopular to Joe Average they quickly side step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    They funnily enough didn't wimp out on the (UN directed) banning of semi auto firearms, the govt just pushes populist law changes, anything that might make them look bad/unpopular to Joe Average they quickly side step.
    Weird that they continually tell us all to "not judge a group by the actions of a minority". Dog owners, muslims, etc but expect the exact opposite when firearm's owners are involved.
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    Well the voters have spoken, hopefully this is the deathnell for about half the Green Party vote base.
    Quite an interesting result given that just about EVERY user would have dragged themselves in to vote yes, and a lot of non users wouldn’t have been worried about it either way as there were major pros and cons both ways.
    Has saved a lot of people their jobs as most employers were not going to be changing their policy’s as just like alcohol you can’t define a safe level of impairment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    ... Has saved a lot of people their jobs as most employers were not going to be changing their policy’s as just like alcohol you can’t define a safe level of impairment.
    Most companies require a zero percentage of impairment ... and will continue with this policy. Regardless of the legality of the substance used.

    Under the influence ... is not the same as any legal limit to drive.
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