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    Quote Originally Posted by _Shrek_ View Post
    still comes down to choice pritch
    It may come down to the choice to stay at home. People who choose not to vaccinate will not be able to go anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Today we are going to do a refresher in maths for the hard of thinking.

    Let's say we have 100 people who get vaccinated with a 97% effective vaccine. Then expose them to the virus.

    Ok I know this is difficult. Can you make a prediction of how many will likely get sick?.

    a) no one, - if the vaccine worked
    b) all of them because the fuckn vaccine doesnt work I read on the internet
    c) my brain hurts, cant I just go back to spouting misinformation?
    Oh goodo, now for some advanced maths....

    As of Dec 4 2020

    1,298,455 Total tests

    2219 positive test results

    139 (estimated based on 6.3% in previous data of 1600/80 approx) Hospitalised

    25 dead

    WHY is it SO HARD to find the data on how many people in NZ NEEDED hospital treatment for this.
    This number has to be actively suppressed as ALL the other data comes up very EASY in searches.
    The answer is so people don’t ask WHY are we scared.
    Can you imagine a Pandemic being declared of the PM said oh by the way 93% of you that actually manage to contract the virus won’t need to go to hospital just stay home and rest.
    Nothing else matters the maths tells the story, especially post lockdown any new cases should have spread massively as everyone suddenly enjoyed a watered down form of freedom.
    And just think of all those Asymptomatic cases in the 3,800,000 people that have NOT been tested...
    There should be another 6600 odd positive cases, another 400 extra in hospital and another 75 people dead, where are they????
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Oh goodo, now for some advanced maths....

    As of Dec 4 2020

    1,298,455 Total tests

    2219 positive test results

    139 (estimated based on 6.3% in previous data of 1600/80 approx) Hospitalised

    25 dead

    WHY is it SO HARD to find the data on how many people in NZ NEEDED hospital treatment for this.
    This number has to be actively suppressed as ALL the other data comes up very EASY in searches.
    The answer is so people don’t ask WHY are we scared.
    Can you imagine a Pandemic being declared of the PM said oh by the way 93% of you that actually manage to contract the virus won’t need to go to hospital just stay home and rest.
    Nothing else matters the maths tells the story, especially post lockdown any new cases should have spread massively as everyone suddenly enjoyed a watered down form of freedom.
    And just think of all those Asymptomatic cases in the 3,800,000 people that have NOT been tested...
    There should be another 6600 odd positive cases, another 400 extra in hospital and another 75 people dead, where are they????

    from 8 months ago....
    You have tried this same troll before the exact same post in fact as justification why we never needed a lockdown its was especially stupid then, Guess what? it's still stupid now.
    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    As of Dec 4 2020

    1,298,455 Total tests

    2219 positive test results

    139 (estimated based on 6.3% in previous data of 1600/80 approx) Hospitalised

    25 dead

    WHY is it SO HARD to find the data on how many people in NZ NEEDED hospital treatment for this.
    This number has to be actively suppressed as ALL the other data comes up very EASY in searches.
    The answer is so people don’t ask WHY are we scared.
    Can you imagine a Pandemic being declared of the PM said oh by the way 93% of you that actually manage to contract the virus won’t need to go to hospital just stay home and rest.
    Nothing else matters the maths tells the story, especially post lockdown any new cases should have spread massively as everyone suddenly enjoyed a watered down form of freedom.
    And just think of all those Asymptomatic cases in the 3,800,000 people that have NOT been tested...
    There should be another 6600 odd positive cases, another 400 extra in hospital and another 75 people dead, where are they????

    https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131177522

    you followed it up with this silly post
    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Your odds of dying from Covid in NZ is about the same as winning Powerball....
    People dream of winning powerball, actively visit known powerball superspreader hot zones twice a week in hope of winning...

    Meanwhile about 6 times as many people die in drink drive car crashes.
    We even have mass random surveillance testing for that too, typically about 1.5-2% are ‘ infected’ with the influence of alcohol.....
    Would we tolerate say a 24hr lockdown every time you bought a beer at bar?
    Or after your night at the bar you don’t leave through the front door, a govt agent escorts you to a ‘quarantine ‘ facility which you can’t leave for 24 hrs.
    Just imagine that, we would ABSOLUTELY save 150 lives a year
    The govt will NEVER do that so why all this crap with the virus where the potential victim has a 93% chance of not even needing hospital treatment...
    then this wee ripper
    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    The media are tripping over themselves trying to solve the mystery of why Africans aren't dying from covid as badly as the west.
    Africans routinely take a cheap safe anti malaria drug invented in n 1960's called hydroxychloroquine....
    Scooby Doo would solve that puzzle faster
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    And trying to use an argument like that in isolation of info from the WHOLE REST OF THE FUCKING WORLD.
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    R650R's argument is up there with the argument the self interested arseholes use, those who say that we should not have had all this fuss over 26 deaths. it's almost as if they want more deaths to justify the shut downs. They just can't credit that the shut downs worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    R650R's argument is up there with the argument the self interested arseholes use, those who say that we should not have had all this fuss over 26 deaths. it's almost as if they want more deaths to justify the shut downs. They just can't credit that the shut downs worked.
    pretty sure he said exactly that, in essence that we only had a few ases here and only a few deaths si there was no need for a lockdown
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    Listening to an American contractor last night. He’s working well into night on construction project, seemsceveryone in his workforce and family has had covid at least two or three times. No ones wearing masks and his wife is still working a machine but he’s gonna drop her off at motel soon. He has set up a seperate smoko room for the one she feeling ill....
    It seems like they are under tremendous pressure to keep working thanks to How USA legal system is he will get sued out of existance if projects delayed....
    At one point he says the latest version feels like flu and cold combined but worse and same as here different people are affected in different ways...
    So yeah from horses mouth there definitely can catch it more than once...
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Listening to an American contractor last night. He’s working well into night on construction project, seemsceveryone in his workforce and family has had covid at least two or three times. No ones wearing masks and his wife is still working a machine but he’s gonna drop her off at motel soon. He has set up a seperate smoko room for the one she feeling ill....
    It seems like they are under tremendous pressure to keep working thanks to How USA legal system is he will get sued out of existance if projects delayed....
    At one point he says the latest version feels like flu and cold combined but worse and same as here different people are affected in different ways...
    So yeah from horses mouth there definitely can catch it more than once...
    It is tenacious.

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    Catching it once is bad enough for me

    Stuff catching it twice!
    Bloody hell this is miserable, I fucking feel horrible. I really thought I was going to escape Covid but the Wife fell sick over a week ago and five days later it got me. Now we are both like zombies shuffling around the house in pain. Man it comes on fast. Within a couple of hours of being 100% fine to fucking miserable. Head spitting, eyes aching, muscles sore all over. Haven't the strength left to pop the cap of a beer bottle. Today is only my day three and I'm being served the full menu as it works through my body. Bit of ear ache this morning for variety on top of a sore throat that is driving me mad. Thank you Wuhan for dumping this suffering on to the world- you bastards.
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    Wuhan were just the first victim. The real master criminals in this play are of course those Bats. Beady eyed little fuckers. They're not actually blind you know? That's just a cover to make them seem helpless when in reality they are the puppet masters, and we merely the puppets. Ever see a Bat sneeze? No. Think about that for a moment.


    Anyway, hope you get better soon MD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Bit of ear ache this morning.
    Sounds like monkey pox to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Sounds like monkey pox to me.
    Since that came to my attention I've thought it would be a great name for a band..

    Apparently Marburg virus has popped up again, just a couple of cases, though.

    The last wee outbreak had a 90% mortality rate.

    Wonder how the anti's would deal with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naki Rat View Post
    Some worrying reports coming out from these guys regarding limitations of immunity from COVID and the implications this has for both herd immunity and immunisation strategies.
    yeah, it's just those who have thought it any easy way to get a week off work with a fake RAT, then they get it. It's like the old grandmas died to your boss excuse, eventually she does die .

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    Looking Forward

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnR9...r.JohnCampbell

    A few "takes" from the latest video:

    1. Omicron is poorly immunogenic - i.e. offers little protection against catching it again.
    2. Vaccine boosters (Pfizer, Moderna) may not achieve broad-spectrum protections against new Omicron variants.
    3. New variants are re-evolving to infect the lungs (i.e. lower in the respiratory tract - like Delta) therefore increasing likely hospitalisation rates.
    4. Science/big Pharma can't keep up with the rate of new virus variants (i.e. no chance of producing an Omicron-specific vaccine.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnR9...r.JohnCampbell

    A few "takes" from the latest video:

    1. Omicron is poorly immunogenic - i.e. offers little protection against catching it again.
    2. Vaccine boosters (Pfizer, Moderna) may not achieve broad-spectrum protections against new Omicron variants.
    3. New variants are re-evolving to infect the lungs (i.e. lower in the respiratory tract - like Delta) therefore increasing likely hospitalisation rates.
    4. Science/big Pharma can't keep up with the rate of new virus variants (i.e. no chance of producing an Omicron-specific vaccine.)
    lol@not enough people not jabbed. I hope the health service holds ok, especially after the loss of staff through non-vaccination. Wait a minute.......
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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