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    Quote from another site....

    “If Trump really did cause the capital riot, why isn’t CNN playing clips of that over and over again”

    And wouldnt he be under house arrest by now, no one is above the law...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    You address a lot - as is your way.
    Glaringly absent though is your thoughts on Trump, a man you have stated is a very smart guy. Keep this in mind for your possible answer as clearly he will of known exactly what he was doing.
    What is your thoughts on Trump winding up his supporters to do what they did - AND promising he would be there right with them all the way, then going back to the west wing to view the carnage he had so expertly sowed?
    I think the first point is that I'm a big fan of the right to peaceful protest. Flowing from that, Calling for or advocating for Protests is also fine.

    Now to add some Caveats to that - calling for Violent Protests is not okay and for Protests that have turned violent, continued support for them is generally not acceptable.

    I did write a big bit, but I've decided to respond with a Question first - bearing in mind that I'll apply the answer to both sides:

    What do you consider to be the acceptable limits of Protest and
    What do you consider to be the acceptable limits of calling for Protest?

    Because I cannot really answer your question until we set some standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Just for DL reference, this is the level of intelligence the people that Trump is manipulating to his own ends. (hilarious video as it may be)
    And I'm sure I could find videos of Dole-Bludging Labour supporters who can barely string a sentence together - this gross characterization however does neither side any favours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    If you look at the majority of Media companies - they share either a soft left or substantial left bias.
    If you look at Eductation (at all levels) - overwhelming left or far left.
    If you look at the 'Big Tech Giants' - They donate to the Democrats, give preferential treatment to Left-Wing causes that is not extended to Right-Wing causes, implement radical left theories into corporate policy.
    If you look at most corporate HR and Media departments - they are overwhelmingly left also.



    See above.

    Media, Education, The Internet and Big Corporates - those are pretty significant and influential parts of modern society.
    Thanks for clarifying that. So is the media and education funded by techys who are really in control.

    They must be Deep state then! Jeezuz- its all coming clear now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Thanks for clarifying that. So is the media and education funded by techys who are really in control.

    They must be Deep state then! Jeezuz- its all coming clear now.
    It's not a case of Funding or of a Deep State scenario.

    It's more a case of key parts of those organizations happen to share a particular set of beliefs, which causes them to Act in a similar way.

    Think of it not as a person who is in control, but more an Idea that is in Control (or from my perspective - out of control)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    If you look at the 'Big Tech Giants' - They donate to the Democrats, give preferential treatment to Left-Wing causes that is not extended to Right-Wing causes, implement radical left theories into corporate policy.
    That's pure fantasy. Zuckerberg is not left wing, his actions are far more compatible with his being rightwing. It may just be that he's an arsehole though. Arseholes and rghtwingers can be indistinguishable. Facebook have assisted with Trump propaganda since the beginning. They relatively recently refused to limit political ads containing obvious lies, Trump ads of course. Facebook were complicit in the Data Analytica scandal and were fined half a million quid in Britain. Data Analytica were not working for the Democrats.

    Jack Dorsey holidayed in Myanmar. Taking the sun in military dictatorships where genocide is actively underway is not typical left wing behaviour. Next thing you'll be trying to sell Peter Thiel as a left winger.

    Meanwhile back with reality, Liz Cheney is #3 in the Congressional Republican hierarchy. Her father was George W's Vice President. I didn't much like her dad, didn't much like her, but she is going up in my estimation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Perhaps this was all fresh in their minds too about what happens when you mess with the elite...

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/world/americas...d-husband-shot
    Wouldn't be surprised.

    Saw Trump on TV at the end of the wall so far today. He didn't sound like someone who was confident that another 4 years were on the cards. T'was, in general, a toned down affair as they celebrated the magnificence of the border wall without mention of anything that might make one think that he was anything but an outgoing president. He did read from an auto-prompt, so it could simply have been a case of wrong time wrong place for grumpy trumpy to incite another riot and maybe start tearing down the wall. Wonder what he'll say tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    It's not a case of Funding or of a Deep State scenario.

    It's more a case of key parts of those organizations happen to share a particular set of beliefs, which causes them to Act in a similar way.

    Think of it not as a person who is in control, but more an Idea that is in Control (or from my perspective - out of control)
    Well except that the "deep state" isn't a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    That's pure fantasy. Zuckerberg is not left wing, his actions are far more compatible with his being rightwing. It may just be that he's an arsehole though. Arseholes and rghtwingers can be indistinguishable. Facebook have assisted with Trump propaganda since the beginning. They relatively recently refused to limit political ads containing obvious lies, Trump ads of course. Facebook were complicit in the Data Analytica scandal and were fined half a million quid in Britain. Data Analytica were not working for the Democrats.
    What you've described though isn't assistance.

    And it's pretty easy to prove that there is one standard for the likes of Trump/MAGA and a different standard for the likes of ANTIFA and BLM - from which we can conclude which way the pendulum swings.

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Jack Dorsey holidayed in Myanmar. Taking the sun in military dictatorships where genocide is actively underway is not typical left wing behaviour. Next thing you'll be trying to sell Peter Thiel as a left winger.
    Except for when Jack admits to having a Left Bias.

    Well, the Left do love their Dictatorships...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    Well except that the "deep state" isn't a thing.
    I specifically said it wasn't the case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    My fledgling tin foil hat company is on the brink of a massive spike in sales now it would seem!
    Getcha tin foil hats here, $2 ea or 2 for a fiver!
    Sorry mate, I read online that a tinfoil hat is no good now that Elon Musk (a Russian!!!!!) has launched the Starlink Mindcontrol sattelites. So what you'll need now is a full body metal condom with an antenna going down to metal shoes - the antenna, metal sheathing will ground those signals out to earth, bypassing the brain. Of course if you have had your Covid Vax (with patented Bill Gates mind-control chip) then nothing will save you except your AR-15 and MAGA hat. You have seen the consequences of that though - that guy was mindcontrolled into tasering his own ballsack till he had a heart attack!!!

    I was actually seriously considering getting a bunch of MAGA hats and lining them with tinfoil then offering them for sale on Etsy for $100USD each. Just to see how it went. Because there would be people who would buy them. But I dont need the money that bad and I have a modicum of self respect left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I think the first point is that I'm a big fan of the right to peaceful protest. Flowing from that, Calling for or advocating for Protests is also fine.

    Now to add some Caveats to that - calling for Violent Protests is not okay and for Protests that have turned violent, continued support for them is generally not acceptable.

    I did write a big bit, but I've decided to respond with a Question first - bearing in mind that I'll apply the answer to both sides:

    What do you consider to be the acceptable limits of Protest and
    What do you consider to be the acceptable limits of calling for Protest?

    Because I cannot really answer your question until we set some standards.
    Ohhh, na uhhh ahhh! despite your carefully placed banana skins and racing around the paddock making hay for future straw man arguments - I'm not falling for it. My opinion should have no bearing on what is a simple question aimed at you to gain your opinion. (It is actually worse than I thought after watching the video you commented on below). Now I know full well it is a tricky one to give a free pass to Trump for, which is why I'm enjoying asking it. You ponied up with Trump, you must of known the hard questions would come sooner or later. So try not to spin it one way or another, if Trump crossed the line for you, why not share it? If there was no line crossed as far as you are concerned, it does really lay to waste any BLM Anitifa riots you were jumping all over.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    And I'm sure I could find videos of Dole-Bludging Labour supporters who can barely string a sentence together - this gross characterization however does neither side any favours.
    Oh I have no doubt, but come on, there really was a rich wealth of fucking numb skull idiots on display for that incident huh?
    Trump planned to incite that lot, and gets a "A" for doing just that.
    Apart for the ones that came armed made pipe bombs n all that, the large bunch of that mob were totally clueless and clearly had no plan.
    Trump had the plan, and executed it. The mob largely had no plan and just went with the presidents cool idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    It's not a case of Funding or of a Deep State scenario.

    It's more a case of key parts of those organizations happen to share a particular set of beliefs, which causes them to Act in a similar way.

    Think of it not as a person who is in control, but more an Idea that is in Control (or from my perspective - out of control)
    I asked you about the Machinery of power, remember? They were working in ways to get Biden in quickly you said, as if there was some force to be reckoned with that you are aware of.

    When challenged to identify this powerbase you start blithering on about lefty school teachers or somesuch.

    You've got nothing to back up that horseshit claim and you know it.

    Seriously dude, it might sound impressive in you mind as you type scary scenarios. But apply some critical thinking. People start to believe stuff they read on the Internet if they see it enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    And it's pretty easy to prove that there is one standard for the likes of Trump/MAGA and a different standard for the likes of ANTIFA and BLM - from which we can conclude which way the pendulum swings.
    LOL brah you trippin'

    The absolute demonstration of the difference between Trumpy fascists who you support, and therefore I judge you, and the BLM protestors (Antifa is a fucking stupid madeup word and a slur and I dont use it - suffice to say that the best example of what an antifascist is, is demonstrated by, oh, I dunno, the ENTIRE Second World War)... anyway, to my point: the difference between the fascists and fascist wannabes and the BLM protests is the two photographs. When black people and poor people were protesting there were National Guard lined up shoulder to shoulder outside the Capitol. When the fascists were massing the po po were MIA. Except the ones storming the building they swore an oath to protect. I'll leave you to google it. Or would you rather look at your god-emperor's inauguration photos where he had a crowd over a million strong that was the biggest, best and brightest inauguration crowd of any president at any time?

    Let me give you some free advice. Being a trumpy apologist is to be on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of civil society, and to be ridiculed and mocked from now unto evermore. You're not stupid, just fucking deluded, and it's sad.
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