Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[Bonez]

I've got an unused hurt feelings form if you want one

They did indeed hang in there. Tough gig after one of the opposition gives the green light for them to be vilified wherever they go simply for doing their job. Just straight up ugly dehumanising bullshit that's supported far and wide it seems.

Lol.

When Bumbling Bobs report was done I couldn't believe the Democrats would read the thing vebatum live. It was like kind garden kids reading a page of a Noody book.What a waste of time and resources,I pet pritch sat in front of the telly drooling through the whole feasco. And then Richard Madcows fairy tale.


2024 will be very interesting. All the lefties trying to make sure Trump can not run is very pathetioc imho. They've certainly dropped their panties and exposed their all once again

[pritch]

Did you hear the one about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac? He wakes up at 2.29AM and paces the room wrestling with the question, Is there a Dog?

[TheDemonLord]

Did you hear the one about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac? He wakes up at 2.29AM and paces the room wrestling with the question, Is there a Dog?

Is he related to the Dyslexic Witch who was burned at the stake for Worshiping Santa?

[sugilite:Me]

Well, obviously - I follow Brexit related things a bit, since y'know....

Here's another side of his:



The right-honorable member for the 19th Century, Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg against James O'Brien and this shows what happens when he meets someone that is equally well prepared and his mask slips.

And what is truly interesting is that this was done 2 years ago, and we can see whether or not any of the predictions James made came true - and it turns out they haven't and it appears (with the Covid Vaccination scandal) that leaving the EU has benefited the UK quite nicely. Double ironic because one of the claims of the Remoaners was that Brexit will stop the UK from accessing "Life saving Medical supplies"

Finally had a few minutes to watch a bit of this, not all of it. Neither seemed to land a knockout blow, both seemed well informed enough to have a decent conversation about it. As far as pollies go, he seems ok actually. Watched the 1st 6 mins, skipped about at the end waiting for a meltdown, none observed. Media always exaggerates problems no matter what side of the political divide.
Case in point, right wing media going on and on about dems cancelling Dr Seuss when it was the publisher, and washington post making up trump quotes. So meh.

[Bonez]

Finally had a few minutes to watch a bit of this, not all of it. Neither seemed to land a knockout blow, both seemed well informed enough to have a decent conversation about it. As far as pollies go, he seems ok actually. Watched the 1st 6 mins, skipped about at the end waiting for a meltdown, none observed. Media always exaggerates problems no matter what side of the political divide.
Case in point, right wing media going on and on about dems cancelling Dr Seuss when it was the publisher, and washington post making up trump quotes. So meh.

So you only watched a BIT of the video Numbnuts not the WHOLE video., How then can you come to a conclusion without watching the WHOLE video prey tell?

[pritch]

As far as pollies go, he seems ok actually.

You just don't know him well enough? He is very pro Brexit, but before the date Brexit kicked in he moved his businesses to Ireland. The mere sight of him pisses me off.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-house-commons

[TheDemonLord]

You just don't know him well enough? He is very pro Brexit, but before the date Brexit kicked in he moved his businesses to Ireland. The mere sight of him pisses me off.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-house-commons

Yes, he is very Pro-Brexit, but he didn't move his businesses to Ireland.

He moved a single investment fund (one of many, some in the UK, some overseas) to Ireland.

As for the Reclining - the Memes that were generated were hilarious (and he even had a good laugh at some of them himself) - However he was present for the entire debate and participated in it.

But god, heaven forbid someone reclines in a chair...

[TheDemonLord]

Finally had a few minutes to watch a bit of this, not all of it. Neither seemed to land a knockout blow, both seemed well informed enough to have a decent conversation about it. As far as pollies go, he seems ok actually. Watched the 1st 6 mins, skipped about at the end waiting for a meltdown, none observed. Media always exaggerates problems no matter what side of the political divide.

Suffice to say - I like JRM, mainly because he's very witty, unashamedly a British Toff (in every sense of the word), happy to take the piss out of himself but most importantly:

He tends towards the classic strand of British Conservative Liberalism that I like. Let the people decide for themselves and let the government have the smallest input into peoples lives as possible.

As for the interview - James just seems conceited for the whole thing, as if it's a chore for him to talk to JRM and that Jame's position is so self-evidently right that it's beneath him to discuss it with JRM. That's my personal take - however the Knock out blow for me was the discussion on Australian Beef. James is trying to paint a picture of international trade that is obviously nonsense. Countries can trade with each other with an agreement to respect each sides standards but without one country having legal superiority over the other.

That he would attempt to make sure a claim is proof the absurdity of his Claims. But as I said in my original post - it's the fact that after Brexit, some of the key Remainer claims have been shown to be definitively false.

Case in point, right wing media going on and on about dems cancelling Dr Seuss when it was the publisher, and washington post making up trump quotes. So meh.

There's a difference between lazy attributation - Saying it's the Democrats cancelling Dr Seuss, whereas it would be more correct to say 'Radical Left Wing Activists' (which is the Democrats at this point...) pressured the publisher to cancel. And outright making shit up.

And yes, I'll grant you every accusation of bias in my summation of that, that you want.

[sugilite:Me]

You just don't know him well enough? He is very pro Brexit, but before the date Brexit kicked in he moved his businesses to Ireland. The mere sight of him pisses me off.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-house-commons

I just assume all pollies have their self interest at heart, it is in their DNA. I liked the way he spoke. I did not have the knowledge of brexit to form an opinion on the validity of what he was saying.

Suffice to say - I like JRM, mainly because he's very witty, unashamedly a British Toff (in every sense of the word), happy to take the piss out of himself but most importantly:

He tends towards the classic strand of British Conservative Liberalism that I like. Let the people decide for themselves and let the government have the smallest input into peoples lives as possible.

Well, as mentioned I do not have the knowledge or inclination to gain it to evaluate what he was saying, but he was watchable, as was ine interviewer. Not like that yank dribble. I cannot stand maddow, lemon, ari and ilk, Same goes for Hanity, tucker and judge moron over at fox. They are all shit.

As for the interview - James just seems conceited for the whole thing, as if it's a chore for him to talk to JRM and that Jame's position is so self-evidently right that it's beneath him to discuss it with JRM. That's my personal take - however the Knock out blow for me was the discussion on Australian Beef. James is trying to paint a picture of international trade that is obviously nonsense. Countries can trade with each other with an agreement to respect each sides standards but without one country having legal superiority over the other.

Yeah, agree with that, but knockout blow? More a straight right to the chops.

There's a difference between lazy attributation - Saying it's the Democrats cancelling Dr Seuss, whereas it would be more correct to say 'Radical Left Wing Activists' (which is the Democrats at this point...) pressured the publisher to cancel. And outright making shit up.

And yes, I'll grant you every accusation of bias in my summation of that, that you want.

Did the publisher state that they were coming under pressure from left wing radicals? My limited perception as I have not studied the pooh out of it - is that the publisher took it upon themselves.
I saw an illustration from one of the books in question and thought it was a big nothing.

The two examples I gave were not meant to be directly compared. Both right wing and left wing media agencies are as bad as each other. Plenty of examples of out right lies and misdirection can be found in both camps.

[Viking01]

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That he would attempt to make sure a claim is proof the absurdity of his Claims. But as I said in my original post - it's the fact that after Brexit, some of the key Remainer claims have been shown to be definitively false.

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Just out of curiosity, were any of the Brexiter claims equally shown to be false ?

[F5 Dave]

Funnily enough I was listening to a podcast at 5am (The detail so NZ) and it turns out Dr Seuss Estate withdrew 6 titles only of their own decision. So none of that is quite correct.

Cancel Culture? Well there's several ways to look at it. One extreme is for us old white guys to get all very shouty, as we were quite comfortable being able to look down on everyone else- and who dare attack our right to be superior? And control the nice stuff.

Or we can be honest and admit evolution of society is required. Women are allowed to vote can you imagine?

How we get to a fair and equitable society is the difficult part. Taking drastically opposing sides is of course the very worst way to do it.

[TheDemonLord]

Just out of curiosity, were any of the Brexiter claims equally shown to be false ?

Of the big ones, you could probably hold up the 39 Billion pounds as probably the biggest falsehood - but that's really about it.

Whereas the big Remain claims so far haven't happened.

[pritch]

Cancel Culture? Well there's several ways to look at it.

The right are as good at cancel cuture as anybody else. I offer, for those who may recall: The Dixie Chicks, Colin Kaepernick and Kathy Griffin.

[TheDemonLord]

Did the publisher state that they were coming under pressure from left wing radicals? My limited perception as I have not studied the pooh out of it - is that the publisher took it upon themselves.
I saw an illustration from one of the books in question and thought it was a big nothing.

Whether direct pressure (as in letters, campaigns) or more the implicit milieu of that industry (which, would be fair to say, is left-leaning as with most creative industries) - It's the same social forces IMO.

As you said - you've seen the Illustration - I've read Dr Seuss as a Child and I've read it to my Kids - nothing about the illustrations ever suggested Racism to me.

On the other hand, I've still got a copy of Tintin and Blue Lotus and various Asterix books - and even me, with my Staunchly libertarian views, look at some of those drawings as 'This is a bit Spicy...'

[mashman]

Lol.

When Bumbling Bobs report was done I couldn't believe the Democrats would read the thing vebatum live. It was like kind garden kids reading a page of a Noody book.What a waste of time and resources,I pet pritch sat in front of the telly drooling through the whole feasco. And then Richard Madcows fairy tale.


2024 will be very interesting. All the lefties trying to make sure Trump can not run is very pathetioc imho. They've certainly dropped their panties and exposed their all once again

To be honest I watched very little of the left and right wing show. There's never anything of any real substance spoken of, and the only thing I wanted to see from Trump he couldn't deliver.
Having said that, I reckon they should read out every single word of every single document they expect the representatives of 'we the people' to sign, coz it's highly likely that that'll be the only time that those representatives get anywhere near putting what they've heard about a thing into context... and given the number of documents that sleepy joe signed, unsigned, undid, whatever he did and the extras that his mob want, I doubt that there's enough time in the day to do so. It may curtail the never ending cycle of creating and uncreating 'rules' because for some reason they don't work in their current form and therefore need thousands of focus groups to figure out a thousand ways to fix the 1 problem.

I hope not coz that really don't solve the division thing much innit i.e. hate hate hate, keep the Republicrat hate machine going at all costs... coz it clearly turns supposed intelligent human beings into foolish tits that'll wait until the next time to be fooled again by the next glorious leader spat forth by the machine.