Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[husaberg]

The funniest thing about Trump
His supporters

[TheDemonLord]

The funniest thing about Trump
His suporters

If I was going to insult my opposition, I'd be really careful to ensure my Spelling was correct...

[TheDemonLord]

". . blatant political persecutions"

Again I invoke the Hillary case. Trump was a complete vindictive wanker with no care for anyone else's safety as he cast them as criminals, judge and jury. Get your mob on. And this is years before Capitol.

Hippo Krit.

Personally, if I was going to invoke an example - Hilary would be the last one I'd resort to, namely due to the myriad of objectively dodgy things that she did such as:

Deleting Subpoena'd data, Not having any recoverable backups - I can never remember the term for it - but there's a legal principle that if someone is actively destroying evidence, you're allowed to presume that which was destroyed was incriminating.

Deliberately bypassing Government security by running a Private email server and conducting official business via it.

However - the bit that is missing in the comparison is a sustained multi-year attack on Hilary. A quick search shows plenty of results for Trump talking about Hilary in 2016, but not a whole lot after

[TheDemonLord]

That's nonsense.

It's an Objective truth.

Nothing? He is now facing civil and criminal actions from two different offices in New York. They would not have even announced that if they didn't have evidence.
You are also forgetting that Trump refused to hand over his tax returns and refused to let people appear at hearings even though they had been subpoenaed. He was always playing for time, but time is running out. In more ways than one.

You seem to have forgotten too the OLC opinion that a sitting president cannot be charged. That alone accounts for four years.

They announced 2 Impeachments with no evidence.... So their Track record isn't very promising.

And of course it's filed in New York, again No political machinations there...

As for the 'playing for time' - I think you mean that he's doing exactly what any reasonable person would do. And coming back to your 'that accounts for four years' - you'll note you said 'Charged' but that doesn't preclude being 'investigated' which we both know that there were numerous politically motivated actors in various positions who spent the entirety of those 4 years investigating - and yet...

The DA and the AG have the tax returns and the business records, they have had them for some time now following Trump's failed series of appeals.

So, they've had them for some time now, and this is the best they can come up with? Sounds very much like grasping at straws.

As for that "Not one conviction" which you cling to so desperately, watch this space. This is just the beginning,

Indeed, because Political Persecution never ends, the Evidence and justification just gets more and more abstract until it can be shoe-horned into whatever narrative is being spun.

I'm very much reminded of Tommy Robinson and his banning from Facebook for 'calling for the beheading of Muslims' - only for a Facebook spokesperson to subsequently confirm what everyone knew (because if Tommy had said anything like that on any public platform, it would have been on every front page of every flavour of News outlet in a millisecon) that they basically made up the accusation.

there are the ten or so obstruction charges listed in the Mueller report, charges arising from election interference in Georgia, and all his shady shit in Ukraine. Don't forget Trump is still "unindicted co-conspirator number one" in the case that sent Cohen to prison for following Trump's instructions in paying off Stormy Daniels. There is also the small matter of the coup attempt which failed like all of his other enterprises. And that ain't all.

Your level of self delusion is truly impressive.

If I apply the same standard of innocence that you applied to the election - He's as clean as a whistle...

[pritch]

It's an Objective truth.

Objective truth for one may be nonsense to normal people.


[QUOTE=TheDemonLord;1131186430]And of course it's filed in New York, again No political machinations there...

Political machinations? NY is where the Trump Organisation is situated. Where did you think the case should be handled? Mexico?

So, they've had them for some time now, and this is the best they can come up with? Sounds very much like grasping at straws.

There are both civil and criminal charges pending. I cant remember the exact phrase but the offending was described with two words such as prolific and persistent.
That doesn't sound ike grasping at straws.

Oh, and regarding your reply to Dave re Hillary's emails. James Comey wrote in his book that there were no missing emails. The FBI got them all. The 'missing' emails Trump was raving about were the personal ones the FBI had no further interest in.

[F5 Dave]

I was almost tempted to click view, but I think. Nah. It will be the same rubbish. Dont quote it please.

[pritch]

I was almost tempted to click view, but I think. Nah. It will be the same rubbish. Dont quote it please.

Apologies. I too should have had the will power to do that.

[pritch]

Sadly the ones that really need to read this just won't get it.

[TheDemonLord]

Objective truth for one may be nonsense to normal people.

And who gets to define Normal?

Political machinations? NY is where the Trump Organisation is situated. Where did you think the case should be handled? Mexico?

Let me put it another way - if one is going to sue for Libel, One files it in London.
If one is going to be filing something on behalf of the Government, one tends to file in Columbia.

Filing it in a heavily Democrat area, with a Governor who has been very vocal against Trump, whose brother has used (some might say abused) his media platform - again, this has all the hallmarks of being politically motivated.

There are both civil and criminal charges pending. I cant remember the exact phrase but the offending was described with two words such as prolific and persistent.
That doesn't sound ike grasping at straws.

Well, we'll see. I suspect it will end in one of 2 ways:

Either the same way the Impeachment went (clearly fabricated 'evidence' on objectively false claims)
Or the the same way as the Chauvin trial (a Jury deciding that it's better to appease the mob in case their head ends up on the block)

Oh, and regarding your reply to Dave re Hillary's emails. James Comey wrote in his book that there were no missing emails. The FBI got them all. The 'missing' emails Trump was raving about were the personal ones the FBI had no further interest in.

Would that be the same James Comey who admitted that there was evidence of Mishandling classified information... But didn't file charges...

Yeah... I think it's safe to say that if their last name wasn't 'Clinton', they wouldn't have been shown such deference, and as such - any subsequent statements are to be treated as tainted.

As for whether or not the emails were indeed of a personal nature - we only have the word of people who have shown an objective bias, so you'll excuse me if I don't take it at face value.

[F5 Dave]

Let's all love Jesus together.

You hold him down and. . .

[TheDemonLord]

Sadly the ones that really need to read this just won't get it.

Let's go through them one by one

Is he a Billionaire? https://www.google.com/search?client...rump+net+worth

Would it bother me if his net worth was *only* $999,999,999? Not one bit.

Is he a Genius? The fact that he's been successful in so many different arenas (Business, Politics and Show Business) is proof enough. As for College Grades - I've worked with some people who had certifications galore and were as thick as Pig's shit and I've worked with some with little to no formal education that could run rings around me.

And let's be clear about what I mean by 'successful' - 99.999999% of people don't get to have their name on the side of Prominent Buildings. 99.999999% of people don't get their own syndicated TV Series. 99.999999% of people don't get to be the President of the United States.

Of those that do have one of those, I can't think of anyone else who has managed all 3 (Perhaps Reagan?).

Is he a great Business Man? He still has his Business Empire, there's still the Trump brand - sure, he's had ups and downs - but that's part of the cycle for the type of speculating he does. According to Google (that famed Trump supporting company) he's still worth 2.4 Billion - so, he must be doing a few things right.

Is he an Irresistible Ladies Man? There's a misconception about why someone who can have anyone would pay a professional, I'm reminded of Justin Bieber visiting Brothels - I think it's probably best expressed as 'Sometimes a Hooker is cheaper than a Groupie'.

Is he a Philanthropist? Honestly? I couldn't care less one way or another.

Is he a Patriot? All you have to do to answer this question is ask yourselves who do the Flag-waving 'America is the Best' align themselves with? For bonus points, you could ask the inverse of which Party and Politicians continually align themselves with protest movements and organizations whose stated goal is to 'Tear down the Western capitalist imperialist Patriarchy' - Those 2 questions will give you the answer - Draft or no Draft.

Is he a Christian? I'm an Atheist so what do I care? It's a long running observation that any political candidate in the US has to declare themselves an adherent of some form of Christianity. That said, I know some Christians who don't go to Church because they believe their faith is between themselves and their God.

Is he Innocent? 2 and 0 and counting. Not testifying when there is no legal compulsion to do so and nothing to be gained from doing so isn't proof of guilt - it's proof of being smart.

[pritch]

Let me put it another way - if one is going to sue for Libel, One files it in London.
If one is going to be filing something on behalf of the Government, one tends to file in Columbia.

Filing it in a heavily Democrat area, with a Governor who has been very vocal against Trump, whose brother has used (some might say abused) his media platform - again, this has all the hallmarks of being politically motivated.

I will explain this because what you have written above typifies your lack of understanding.

The cases are filed in New York because the headquarters of the Trump Organisation are in New York and all five of the main persons of interest lived in New York: DJT himself, Alan Weisselberg CFO of the Trump Organisation, Dumb and Dumber, and Ivanka. It's also likely most offences, if any, were committed there.

These particular investigations are not conducted by the federal government. One investigation is being conducted by the Attorney General for New York. The other investigation is being conducted by the Manhattan District Attorney. It should be obvious that any court action will most likely take place in New York.

None of this has anything to do with the District of Columbia although it is entirely possible that other federal investigations and charges may follow and any resultant court action would likely be held in DC or Virginia.

Having had to explain these basics, all of which are readily available, means you are back on ignore.

[pritch]

"From the desk of Donald J Trump

Many people have asked about the beautiful Boeing 757 that became so iconic during the Trump rallies. It was effectively kept in storage in Upstate New York in that I was not allowed to use it during my presidency. It is now being fully restored and updated and will be put back into service sometime prior to the end of the year. It will soon be brought to a Louisiana service facility for the completion of work, inspection and updating of Rolls-Royce engines, and a brand new paint job. When completed, it will be better than ever, and again used at upcoming rallies!"


That's going to take a lot of cash. The plane has been sitting for over four years and currently has one engine missing. He says he's going to splash out for a new paint job. Wanna bet it'll look a lot like Air Force One? If it happens at all.

[sugilite:Me]

There is really no point interacting with Mr Demon Lord on anything Trump, he has nothing but a never ending set of free passes for the guy.
Wants objective justice huh?
Trump took out a full page advert in the New York times calling for the death penalty for the so called central park 5.
They have since been exonerated.
Has Trump apologized to them and their families or admitted he was wrong? If course the thin skinned prick has not. He is incapable of admitting he was wrong. For some reason DL deeply admires this orange stained piece of shit.
https://zfacts.com/trump-death-penalty-ad

[husaberg]

TLDR was the guy who claimed to know more about US law than a Supreme court judge, Then more about US government's internal security than the FBI, plus more about the US laws than the people that drafted them. Then claimed a near-unanimous law change was undemocratic because he didn't like it.....
Dunning and Kruger would be so proud of him........