Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[TheDemonLord]

On a side note - Steve Hughes in the Man, I've seen him live - funny as fuck - and like all great comedians, there's some stinging nuggets of truth in his Jokes.

[F5 Dave]

So. . . Why didn't that all happen (tdl is on ignore so we'll ignore that post) when Clarke was in power for like 4 centuries?

Let's do some other fearmongery for comparison. What happens when national regroup and wearing brown shirts march and overtake all governance? Extermination of all minority groups and all sorts of other bullshit while we invoke Hitler in late 1990s Internet rhetoric?

Well what are you going to do then? Huh? Huh?

[TheDemonLord]

So. . . Why didn't that all happen (tdl is on ignore so we'll ignore that post) when Clarke was in power for like 4 centuries?

I mean, you ask why it didn't happen and then state you're ignoring a post where I outline why it didn't happen...

Willful blindness is unbecoming.

You also have to look at the political mileu of the late 90s early 2000s in the UK and NZ - you had New Labour under Blair - whose rhetorhic was (paraphrased) 'We are no longer Socialists'

In hindsight, there were echoes and hints as to what was to come, but not at the time - much the same with Clarke and her Government.

Let's do some other fearmongery for comparison. What happens when national regroup and wearing brown shirts march and overtake all governance? Extermination of all minority groups and all sorts of other bullshit while we invoke Hitler in late 1990s Internet rhetoric?

You mean like wearing Black Block, fantasizing about killing white people, targeting Asians, secede locations from the State?

Already happening, just not from the Right Wing.

And here's your daily reminder that all the Brown Shirts were former Socialists:

National Socialism is a form of Socialism, is emphatically revolutionary, does crush the property owner as surely as it crushes the worker. The two regimes, having started from opposite ends, are rapidly evolving towards the same system—a form of oligarchical collectivism

- George Orwell.

Well what are you going to do then? Huh? Huh?

Stand upon the British Liberal values that have triumphed (eventually) over every attack by Marxist derived ideas, forces and groups.

[R650R]

So. . . Why didn't that all happen (tdl is on ignore so we'll ignore that post) when Clarke was in power for like 4 centuries?

Let's do some other fearmongery for comparison. What happens when national regroup and wearing brown shirts march and overtake all governance? Extermination of all minority groups and all sorts of other bullshit while we invoke Hitler in late 1990s Internet rhetoric?

Well what are you going to do then? Huh? Huh?

Your forgetting capitalism needs the poor people for the lower paid jobs so there will be no extermination.
Even a far more right wing govt than we’ve ever had would be better than the status quo. Our current govt excells at propaganda and rewarding failure.

[R650R]

That army recruitment ad is such a great metaphor for the failings of left identity politics.

It’s funny they trying to portray her decision a successful outcome from having “ two moms” ( hey where’s daddy? That sperm came from somewhere) but back it up, she’s obviously studied well but can’t find a decent job or “ her place” in society!!’
So she joins the army which is typically the last choice career in USA for mainly low educated black and some white men. And then it’s only a button pusher on a patriot battery which will likely never see service unless they do a rotation through the promised land in Israel on “exercise”....

I guess if all your doing is beating up third world nations you don’t need traditional soldier characteristics where as Russia and China both face real threats from equal or greater foes.

It’s kinda odd that given all services are having trouble attracting candidates that they should advertise to recruit from perhaps the smallest minority in society. Guess we’ll see results in Operation Raining Equality when they go to war with Iran in 2025

[F5 Dave]

Have you considered immigrating? You're clearly unhappy here.

[Laava]

Have you considered immigrating? You're clearly unhappy here.

I've heard Mar a Lago is nice this time of year?

[pritch]

The greatest offence is yet to come once the commies finish their takeover and suspend elections....

That won't be the 'commies', they're apparently hiding under your bed. The Republican controlled states are working on that right now. Well, they might have elections but only Republicans can win. Some famous person in the USA said something to the effect, when fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. And so it is

[TheDemonLord]

That won't be the 'commies', they're apparently hiding under your bed. The Republican controlled states are working on that right now. Well, they might have elections but only Republicans can win. Some famous person in the USA said something to the effect, when fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. And so it is

You sure about that?

https://www.google.com/search?client...runa+Khilanani

I mean - she still has a Facebook, Yale university has only 'restricted access to the lecture' (Not removed it, not deleted it, not Fired her, not launched an investigation into how such an obvious racist could be allowed to advocate for Genocide).

And just for reference (in case you don't wish to review the info) here's just one of the things she said:

I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, burying their body, and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively guiltless with a bounce in my step. Like I did the world a fucking favour

I will make just 2 points here - the first is the Killing of Jay Bishop, by Communist Revolutionaries (AKA Antifa) - The way she describes her fantasy is almost identical to the way that Jay was Murdered.

The second is if you replace the word 'White' with say 'Black' or 'Jew' or 'Muslim' or 'Gay' - Do you think Yale would even have allowed them to speak? Do you think they would still have a Facebook account? Do you think their work would still be accessible?

And again, your historical Reminder - all the Fascists of the 1930s were former Marxists/Socialists.

[pritch]

It’s kinda odd that given all services are having trouble attracting candidates that they should advertise to recruit from perhaps the smallest minority in society. Guess we’ll see results in Operation Raining Equality when they go to war with Iran in 2025

The British Army spent up large on a campaign to recruit minorities. It was a spectacular failure. The Army is hard work, it can be dangerous, and the pay is crap.
The minorities may be brown but they're not stupid.

[TheDemonLord]

The British Army spent up large on a campaign to recruit minorities. It was a spectacular failure. The Army is hard work, it can be dangerous, and the pay is crap.
The minorities may be brown but they're not stupid.

It's almost like the ad is being made to satisfy an Ideological agenda around Diversity, inclusion and Equity - as opposed to recruiting new Soldiers....

Just more Marxist infiltration...

[sugilite:Me]

It's almost like the ad is being made to satisfy an Ideological agenda around Diversity, inclusion and Equity - as opposed to recruiting new Soldiers....

Just more Marxist infiltration...

You have any similar armed forces recruitment photos generated by any marxist regimes to back your assertion?

[TheDemonLord]

You have any similar armed forces recruitment photos generated by any marxist regimes to back your assertion?

Why would they want to weaken their own forces?

I again point to Yuri Bezmenov - They (the senior KGB Officials) in the 80s actively despised the Marxist revolutionaries that they were training up - as soon as they had fulfilled their purpose - they were gone (that is, lined up against the wall and shot) - once the new totalitarian regime is in place, it's business as usual.

[sugilite:Me]

Given what Trump forwent to become the PoTUS, I don't think the claim Trump is for Trump can be argued. Even if I accept your next statement that he made policy based on a Gut-Feel - Is that necessarily a bad thing?

The tax drop NYT did highlighted that companies Trump invested in but had no control over did well, companies he had a direct hand in very often went bankrupt. Trumps gut is meh.

It's one area where we have some very definitive data that Trump did what he set out to do, It's also one area where we see the most amount of Apologia 'Inherited from Obama' - which is the part that I enjoy fighting on because it shows a level of disconnect.

He inherited Obamacare, said it was a top priority to get rid of it - he failed. He failed to give an alternative too. That is just one example of what Trump failed to do. Off with the rose tinted glasses eh.

There's a reason I chose that as a comparison. You rightly point out that they are worlds apart - but you do so only because of what happened after the badges were introduced.

Wearing a mask became (to certain groups) a symbol of Virtue and Piety "Look at how good we are for always wearing our Mask"
Whereas for others it became a point of rebellion "The Government cannot dictate to me what I should wear to enjoy my God-Given/Natural Rights"

In either case however, just like a certain star it became a way to separate the 'good' people with the 'bad' people.

Your own hero was the main person that set up that scenario. Your premise is complete shit in this matter.
When a pandemic hits, sacrifices need to be made. Wearing a mask was always a medical necessity. Dickface Trump and his minions were the ones that politicized it and they killed thousands needlessly to do it. Sickening. Your premise is about as bad taste as could possibly be.

The last past is an assertion - one which you've made based on 2 bits of evidence: Automatic repeat billing and Multiple billing - Both of which have far less nefarious explanations.

You would have us believe because nefarious other companies that are in the questionable services business do it, so it is ok for Trump to rip off his supporters. Classic TDL right there.

There's really only 2 points to make here - the first is I remember when Yahoo and MySpace where the be-all and end-all of the internet

The second is the point out that people were saying the same thing about Trump in around 2015.... and look how that turned out...

The first two companies I did not involve myself in, but strangely the internet still worked for me, and your second premise is completely unrelated to building a viable social network - face it you got nothing in this one.

Allow me for a moment to completely abuse statistics and sample sizes and say "100% support and approval for Trump" based on your data

Gosh, never saw that coming

If you want a statement of 'I hate America' then sure, I can't produce that.

I can however produce multiple statements supporting causes that are fundamentally opposed to everything that America represents.

"Everything" huh.

It's not Paranoia.

BLM is a travesty really, the black people have genuine grievances and face racism daily, I seen it first hand. It started out with the right intentions, then yes, the wrong people were controlling it. 4 investment properties for the leader I see. As mentioned - a travesty. No good cause seems to have a chance because humans are so inherently corruptible and greedy.
Antifa activities are on decline, or are barely reported now, either way they like trump are becoming less influential.

It was a pretty Cunty thing to say, although if memory serves it was a direct jab at Senator McCain.

It was, but reflected poorly on all POW's. Coming from a serial draft dodger is particularly sickening.

Back to the Migration thing - if you are implying that she either bribed or flirted her way to Citizenship, I'm not going to entirely disagree with you - it's entirely possible, I mean you could argue she was ultra skilled in her field (even if I personally think that field is a farce, likely you feel much the same). The point is she still came through the front door with the correct paperwork.

What is the bet she is the only model that got in on that visa. Sure she came through the door with the correct paperwork, but getting that paperwork is highly unlikely to have been done within the rules. I'm sure you know that and just want to argue.

Wait, which way round did he say

Born in Germany, but said not born in Germany
or
Not born in Germany, but said born in Germany?

I took that as the first option?

He stated his father was born in germany. Even fox questioned why on earth did he tell that lie when he did not need too.

You've almost arrived at the Ben Shapiro position on Trump.

Let me answer the accusation - if the media was honest in it's critiquing of Trump (and we both agree there is plenty to work with), then perhaps I'd be a little more strict on the other side.

The levels of lies and behavior though are IMO worlds apart at this point in time

The level of lies from both sides is totally comparable. Back to the bottom of the garden to play with the fairies for you.

Woah! You are literally inches away from arriving at my position.

If they still cannot pin anything on him and you accept that *maybe* he's not as bad as he was made out to be, then you might re-evaluate the optics by which you viewed his actions.

Well no, because believe it or not, I formed my opinion on Trump from his television interviews and tweets. As they are unfiltered Trump. That is what I looked too. Just because he triggers the left and makes out he follows conservative policies does not cut him one bit of slack in my book.
Judging directly from his own words I can see he is a racist, bigoted, woman abusing piece of shit.

I'm not sure I would say corrupt beyond repair. There's always going to be corrupt actors in any system and every system will have inherent flaws. The fact that Trump got elected IMO is proof that the system isn't that corrupt (although I could be a real dick here and say 'well, if it's corrupt beyond repair, then that surely would include being able to rig an election') - Trump was very much so an anomoly, that no one in the various 'power structures' wanted.

Because both sides of the political spectrum's despicable corruption, they have a absolutely massive amount of the population viewing any given situation with either a blue or a red lends. This will ensure they keep going down the road to destruction. There is no turning back when people have no longer have any desire to do so. They sowed the seeds of their destruction and from what I can make out, that other country is coming into harvest the lot of them. Unfortunately. But as per below, you too already know this.

You are right in many ways, America is being Fucked...

but it's being Fucked from within.

[sugilite:Me]

Why would they want to weaken their own forces?

I again point to Yuri Bezmenov - They (the senior KGB Officials) in the 80s actively despised the Marxist revolutionaries that they were training up - as soon as they had fulfilled their purpose - they were gone (that is, lined up against the wall and shot) - once the new totalitarian regime is in place, it's business as usual.

So why attribute "marxist" values to the american advert? duh
I'm not sure that a marxist or communist regime ever existed following the actual doctrine, was always totalitarian yes?
Every single political ideal is flawed because humans are incapable of following one to the letter. Corruption and greed wins the day every time.