Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

**pritch** · 12th January 2022, 08:15

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

Agreed that it's simplified - but it does represent the Binary choice - they either knew or they didn't.

Both of us suspect that they knew but are opting to say otherwise.

Before we proceed - why was the FBIs reputation in the toilet? I'm gonna start with the obvious - that before Trump - the FBI has had a history of acting politically, all the way back to it's foundation and Mr Hoover keeping files on everyone.

There was a video (that has since been yeeted from Youtube, funny that...) of one of the FBI people getting grilled over a series of Text Messages he sent about Trump, Text messages that seriously called into question his ability to be impartial. IIRC, you took the position that it didn't prove bias.

Other opinions on the dislike of the FBI range from - Far too cozy with other Government Agencies, Various Scandals, their original purpose (tackling prohibition gangs) is out of date etc.

Point is - The following criticisms that you are going to level at the FBI - existed in one form or another well before Trump (and likely well after).

Again, I have to point out that the FBI has been acting politically for quite some time. Putting this all at the feet of Trump is both historically absurd, but more importantly - it dodges what sparked this discussion:

What motive would the FBI have to deny that they knew about it?

If you assume that the entire FBI are Right-Wing Extremists (as you semi-infer) then clearly the only answer is because they wanted it to succeed.
If you assume the inverse (which given some of the evidence we did have, seems more likely) then the answer is because they wanted it to happen.

What a load of bollocks. I'm not going to disect that, the level of delusion is just too high. You live in a weird fantasy world and you're welcome to it, but I'm not going to join you there.

**TheDemonLord** · 12th January 2022, 08:59

Originally Posted by pritch

What a load of bollocks. I'm not going to disect that, the level of delusion is just too high. You live in a weird fantasy world and you're welcome to it, but I'm not going to join you there.

Ah yes, when I'm mostly agreeing with you - it's a load of Bollocks...

The only part that I disagree with you, is that many of the issues you raised, existed before Trump (and will exist after).