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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    It is almost like his announcement for the presidential run brought along much closer scrutiny of his practices - it is almost like a causal effect!
    And yet... None of them surfaced when he became a reality TV Star... One might conclude that this info is only necessary when he's running against certain interests.

    My point remains - Everyone had their opinion of Trump formed by the Media.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    The other post where I say Trumps super power is to get other people to prostitute their values in order to support him - yeah this. Had Biden made the same statement, you would of been spouting "largest capitulation and loss of soft power in living memory" and so forth.
    Of course, but that is because of how laughable Biden's foreign policy has been. I remember a lot of British Conservatives decrying Obama's foreign policy as disastrous - Trump's foreign policy was unconventional, but was effective in it's own way - and gave us the Pax Trumpanica.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    One of the things I cannot help but notice with your imbalance, is that you fret deeply about the march of marxism coming in to destroy your beloved capitalist flavor of democracy. Yet you have a breathtaking blind spot to Trumps extremely effective dismantling of it through breeding deep distrust in one of it's major underpinnings - that being free and fair elections. Just last week he was decrying a republican run primary election as being fraudulent!!! So his now standard play book is declare fraud at any result he does not like. No wonder a massive portion of the US voting population have now lost faith in the voting system. As an update, Dr Oz has now claimed victory in that race, just as Trump commanded him to do. So if you are looking for genuine deserved credit for Trump. there it is - he is successfully dismantling democracy on your watch but all you want to do is complain Trump is not getting a fair go. Incredible.
    I disagree with your assessment of the situation.

    Now - when it comes to the creep of Marxism, I've given umpteen examples where things like CRT are being taught to Primary school children, Gender theory etc. Concepts like Systemic Oppression etc. Even when the leaders of various social movements come right out and say they are Marxists and they are seeking to undermine society - you still think this is merely me 'Fretting'...

    However, I raise that to counterpoint - Trump's 'dismantling' as you call it is Newton's Third Law of Politics: For every Action there is a Reaction. The reaction to what you may ask - well, allow me to raise Robert Conquests 2nd law of Politics:

    "Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing."

    Perhaps the best example of this is the ACLU - they went from having a Jewish lawyer defending the rights of Neo Nazis to exercise their First Amendment rights (which I consider perhaps one of the most principled actions ever undertaken) to advocating de-facto Book Burnings for Books that they don't like.

    That is not the only example - I could point to Films and Hollywood as going increasingly 'Woke', Advertisements, Corporations etc. etc.

    Then you have a 'Pandemic' (which I can safely say was milder than a Head Cold) and massive over-reaches in Government power, massive civil restrictions (which, I will note - primarily came from one area of the Political Compass) and massive changes in Voting Procedure, again at the behest of that one area.

    People smell Bullshit. And going back to the Douglas Murray video, there may be exaggerated claims and grandiosity from Trump, that doesn't take away that there is a kernel of Truth that is not being addressed - and until it is, the problem won't go away.

    Is this a Blind Spot? Well that depends on a number of Factors:

    It comes down to whether or not you believe these institutions that Trump is dismantling are rotten or not. I'm not fully onboard that they are corrupt beyond repair, however I think the behavior by certain states during the Pandemic in regards to Voting is sufficient to say there is some rot that has set in.

    I'll also add, that if the Media hadn't been so hyper-partisan (and bare-faced lying) about Trump, you might find more Good will in the Republican side - As above - what you are describing is a reaction to a number of Salvos fired from the Radical Democrat position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    And yet... None of them surfaced when he became a reality TV Star... One might conclude that this info is only necessary when he's running against certain interests.

    My point remains - Everyone had their opinion of Trump formed by the Media.
    Birtharisytm, taking out full page adverts calling for innocent people to be executed, just to name a few.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Of course, but that is because of how laughable Biden's foreign policy has been.

    Trumps capitulation to Putin was not laughable - it was both very telling and chilling at the same time.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I disagree with your assessment of the situation.

    Now - when it comes to the creep of Marxism, I've given umpteen examples where things like CRT are being taught to Primary school children, Gender theory etc. Concepts like Systemic Oppression etc. Even when the leaders of various social movements come right out and say they are Marxists and they are seeking to undermine society - you still think this is merely me 'Fretting'...

    However, I raise that to counterpoint - Trump's 'dismantling' as you call it is Newton's Third Law of Politics: For every Action there is a Reaction. The reaction to what you may ask - well, allow me to raise Robert Conquests 2nd law of Politics:

    "Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing."

    Perhaps the best example of this is the ACLU - they went from having a Jewish lawyer defending the rights of Neo Nazis to exercise their First Amendment rights (which I consider perhaps one of the most principled actions ever undertaken) to advocating de-facto Book Burnings for Books that they don't like.

    That is not the only example - I could point to Films and Hollywood as going increasingly 'Woke', Advertisements, Corporations etc. etc.

    Then you have a 'Pandemic' (which I can safely say was milder than a Head Cold) and massive over-reaches in Government power, massive civil restrictions (which, I will note - primarily came from one area of the Political Compass) and massive changes in Voting Procedure, again at the behest of that one area.

    People smell Bullshit. And going back to the Douglas Murray video, there may be exaggerated claims and grandiosity from Trump, that doesn't take away that there is a kernel of Truth that is not being addressed - and until it is, the problem won't go away.

    Is this a Blind Spot? Well that depends on a number of Factors:

    It comes down to whether or not you believe these institutions that Trump is dismantling are rotten or not. I'm not fully onboard that they are corrupt beyond repair, however I think the behavior by certain states during the Pandemic in regards to Voting is sufficient to say there is some rot that has set in.

    I'll also add, that if the Media hadn't been so hyper-partisan (and bare-faced lying) about Trump, you might find more Good will in the Republican side - As above - what you are describing is a reaction to a number of Salvos fired from the Radical Democrat position.
    You mention bullshit in there.
    But not anywhere to be found in there is any justification for trump chronically undermining the very underpinnings of democracy - to the point of even pronouncing his own parties elections as fraudulent. Bullshit indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Birtharisytm, taking out full page adverts calling for innocent people to be executed, just to name a few.
    Which no one mentioned until after I proved that the reasons given were tied to his Election bid.

    And the Execution one - a bit of post-hoc there.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Trumps capitulation to Putin was not laughable - it was both very telling and chilling at the same time.
    You see it as Capitulation, I don't - and the evidence I use to justify my actions is that Putin did not advance his agenda under Trump in the way he did under Obama and now Biden.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    You mention bullshit in there.
    But not anywhere to be found in there is any justification for trump chronically undermining the very underpinnings of democracy - to the point of even pronouncing his own parties elections as fraudulent. Bullshit indeed.
    If the foundations have rotted, then your only option is to demolish them and rebuild. I'm not convinced they are so far gone as to need to be undermined and rebuilt, but I'm also not convince that the claim of 'no justification' is true. I think there are some justifications, I'm just not sure if they are severe enough to warrant it.

    Perhaps if we saw some concessions made by the opposition and maybe an admission that some of their actions have been causal, then perhaps I might be more swayed to your side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post

    You mention bullshit in there.
    But not anywhere to be found in there is any justification for trump chronically undermining the very underpinnings of democracy - to the point of even pronouncing his own parties elections as fraudulent. Bullshit indeed.
    ...............................................
    In 1973, Trump was accused by the Justice Department of violations of the Fair Housing Act in the operation of 39 buildings. The Department said that black "testers" were sent to more than half a dozen buildings and were denied apartments, but a similar white tester would then be offered an apartment in the same building.[8] The government alleged that Trump's corporation quoted different rental terms and conditions to blacks and made false "no vacancy" statements to blacks for apartments they managed in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island.

    Representing Trump, Roy Cohn filed a counter-suit against the government for $100 million, asserting that the charges were irresponsible and baseless. A federal judge threw out the countersuit, calling it a waste of "time and paper". Trump settled the charges out of court in 1975

    In 1988, the Justice Department sued Trump for violating procedures related to public notifications when buying voting stock in a company related to his attempted takeovers of Holiday Corporation and Bally Manufacturing Corporation in 1986. Trump agreed to pay $750,000 to settle the civil penalties of the antitrust lawsuit

    In late 1990, Trump was sued for $2 million by a business analyst for defamation, and Trump settled out of court
    Trump Taj Mahal declared bankruptcy in November 1990, the first of several such bankruptcies. The NYSE later ordered the firm to compensate the analyst $750,000;

    In 1991, Trump Plaza was fined $200,000 by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission for moving African American and female employees from craps tables in order to accommodate high roller Robert LiButti, a mob figure and alleged John Gotti associate,

    n 1991, one of Trump's casinos in Atlantic City, New Jersey, was found guilty of circumventing state regulations about casino financing when Donald Trump's father bought $3.5 million in chips that he had no plans to gamble.

    In 2000, Donald Trump paid $250,000 to settle fines related to charges brought by New York State Lobbying Commission director David Grandeau. Trump was charged with circumventing state law to spend $150,000 lobbying against government approval of plans to construct an Indian-run casino in the Catskills, which would have diminished casino traffic to Trump's casinos in Atlantic City.

    In 2005, the German state attorney prosecuted Trump Deutschland and its partners for accounting fraud.

    In 2006, the Town of Palm Beach began fining Trump $250 per day for ordinance violations related to his erection of an 80-foot-tall (24 m) flagpole flying a 15 by 25 feet (4.6 by 7.6 m) American flag on his property. Trump sued the town for $25 million, saying that they abridged his free speech, also disputing an ordinance that local businesses be "town-serving". The two parties settled as part of a court-ordered mediation, in which Trump was required to donate $100,000 to veterans' charities.

    After the 2008 housing-market collapse, Deutsche Bank attempted to collect $40 million that Donald Trump personally guaranteed against their $640 million loan for Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago. Rather than paying the debt, Trump sued Deutsche Bank for $3 billion for undermining the project and damage to his reputation. Deutsche Bank then filed suit to obtain the $40 million. The two parties settled in 2010 with Deutsche Bank extending the loan term by five years.

    In 2009, Trump was sued by investors who had made deposits for condos in the canceled Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico.[85] The investors said that Trump misrepresented his role in the project, stating after its failure that he had been little more than a spokesperson for the entire venture, disavowing any financial responsibility for the debacle.[86] Investors were informed that their investments would not be returned due to the cancellation of construction. In 2013, Trump settled the lawsuit with more than one hundred prospective condo owners for an undisclosed amount

    Also in 2011, an appellate court upheld a New Jersey Superior Court judge's decision dismissing Trump's $5 billion defamation lawsuit against author Timothy L. O'Brien, who had reported in his book, TrumpNation: The Art of Being the Donald (2005), that Trump's true net worth was really between $150 and $250 million.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post

    And the Execution one - a bit of post-hoc there.
    Just proves he runs his mouth and dam the consequences. Had he apologised, I would of cut him some slack. He did not. Why not? Because he is scum.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    You see it as Capitulation, I don't - and the evidence I use to justify my actions is that Putin did not advance his agenda under Trump in the way he did under Obama and now Biden.
    That is pure speculation at best, and in reality - a desperate, desperate stretch to defend your capitulating scum bag.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    If the foundations have rotted, then your only option is to demolish them and rebuild. I'm not convinced they are so far gone as to need to be undermined and rebuilt, but I'm also not convince that the claim of 'no justification' is true. I think there are some justifications, I'm just not sure if they are severe enough to warrant it.

    Perhaps if we saw some concessions made by the opposition and maybe an admission that some of their actions have been causal, then perhaps I might be more swayed to your side.
    More desperate stuff. You have however perfectly highlighted my point that Trump supporters are willing to prostitute their values to defend him. In your case you can go from save democracy from the marxists" to being kinda ok with trump burning it down. And that is beside the fact that Trump himself shit all over your premise as he called the primary election run by his own team as fraud! A fact that must of slipped your mind when writing it
    I sure hope you are using eco friendly flush-able wet wipes when constantly removing that orange stain from your chin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Just proves he runs his mouth and dam the consequences. Had he apologised, I would of cut him some slack. He did not. Why not? Because he is scum.
    Well, not quite - Context is key - you have a horrible crime and you have people who confessed to it. What is there to apologise for?

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    That is pure speculation at best, and in reality - a desperate, desperate stretch to defend your capitulating scum bag.
    Pure speculation? On what grounds? Did Putin advance his military campaign in the Ukraine under Trump, in the way that he did under Biden and Obama? The answer is No, he did not.

    And that's a pretty massive bit of evidence you have to overcome if you want people to believe that Trump was working at the behest of Putin. Normally when you put a puppet regime in, you do all the bad things you want to do whilst they are in power....


    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    More desperate stuff. You have however perfectly highlighted my point that Trump supporters are willing to prostitute their values to defend him. In your case you can go from save democracy from the marxists" to being kinda ok with trump burning it down.
    "Save Democracy from Marxism" and "Burn Democracy down"

    You are trying to outline that those two positions are mutually exclusive.

    They are not.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    And that is beside the fact that Trump himself shit all over your premise as he called the primary election run by his own team as fraud! A fact that must of slipped your mind when writing it
    I've heard this, I've not looked into it - and given the track record here of Media says X about Trump, you'll forgive a very high degree of skepticism between what is being portrayed as said and what has actually been said.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    I sure hope you are using eco friendly flush-able wet wipes when constantly removing that orange stain from your chin.
    Interestingly enough, we've hit the magical milestone where we no longer need Wet Wipes for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Well, not quite - Context is key - you have a horrible crime and you have people who confessed to it. What is there to apologise for?
    Could it be that they did not confess to that crime?
    "Four of the five had confessed to police about other attacks in the park in other areas on the night of April 19, including the assault and robbery of John Loughlin, to which they said they were witnesses or participants."



    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Pure speculation? On what grounds? Did Putin advance his military campaign in the Ukraine under Trump, in the way that he did under Biden and Obama? The answer is No, he did not.

    And that's a pretty massive bit of evidence you have to overcome if you want people to believe that Trump was working at the behest of Putin. Normally when you put a puppet regime in, you do all the bad things you want to do whilst they are in power....
    Your look over here, look over here is not working.
    A: You already admitted had Biden said it, you would of hammered him.
    B: It is circumstantial at best, unless if course you have a hot line to Putin? "Massive bit of evidence" indeed. On one hand you moan about the media reporting with an agenda, but you yourself post absolute twaddle in the defense of Trump. You are the same as the media you moan about.
    C: I have seen you argue both that Trump is so unpredictable, Putin feared to invade, and here you are saying because Trump was so friendly siding with Putin, What? Putin was so grateful he was sided with, then did not want to upset Trump?
    If course the option is D: Trump is so thin skinned he would rather say that he believed Putin that Russia would never interfere with American elections than give any credence to his many, many intelligence agencies. Trump for Trump yet again.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    "Save Democracy from Marxism" and "Burn Democracy down"

    You are trying to outline that those two positions are mutually exclusive.

    They are not.
    These latest postings are far from your finest work. So what snake oil are you trying to sell us here? Trump is allowed to destroy the democratic process because of completely unsubstantiated allegations of mail in election fraud? So he destroys it, and replaces it with what? My bet would be totalitarianism - with him firmly at the top. You want that? You love Trump enough to forsake actual democracy? Looks to me like you have transformed into CINO - Conservative in name only.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I've heard this, I've not looked into it - and given the track record here of Media says X about Trump, you'll forgive a very high degree of skepticism between what is being portrayed as said and what has actually been said.
    Well this is just too delicious - Trump himself said it in a post on.....Truth Social
    “Dr. Oz should declare victory, It makes it much harder for them to cheat with the ballots they ‘just happened to find.'
    Yep, there he goes again, touting electoral fraud, this time against his own party. Trumple-Thin-Skin just cannot stand losing at anything. He is quite prepared to trample all over democracy to do it - as are you by your unwavering support for him. CINO!


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Interestingly enough, we've hit the magical milestone where we no longer need Wet Wipes for that.
    What, you grew a beard to cover it? Did you dye your hair to match the orange color of the beard? You won't be selling it if not

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Could it be that they did not confess to that crime?
    "Four of the five had confessed to police about other attacks in the park in other areas on the night of April 19, including the assault and robbery of John Loughlin, to which they said they were witnesses or participants."
    I'm going off newspaper articles from that time, since it's the relevant context - they said 'they confessed'

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Your look over here, look over here is not working.
    A: You already admitted had Biden said it, you would of hammered him.
    Sure - but let's imagine a scenario were Biden was competent, I know - quite possibly the biggest stretch I've ever made, but let's try - so Imagine Afghanistan went smoothly, imagine that his usage of soft power globally etc. etc.

    I'd have let something like that slide, just like I let a lot of his faux pas, his muddled words, his statements that his own press team have to wind back with 'The president doesn't really mean that' (something I note you were very hard on Trump for).

    However, given his actions, if he had made a statement like that with his failures in foreign policy, yeah, I'd crucify him.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    B: It is circumstantial at best, unless if course you have a hot line to Putin? "Massive bit of evidence" indeed. On one hand you moan about the media reporting with an agenda, but you yourself post absolute twaddle in the defense of Trump. You are the same as the media you moan about.
    Except I'm proved correct with the passage of Time and the Media is proved wrong.

    (You really walked into that one :P )

    But to the serious point, Is it Circumstantial? Sure. Circumstantial Evidence though, is still evidence. We have a generally agreed upon set of behaviors that are expected from both parties in a corrupt relationship as is alleged - that when you've put your Patsi in place, that's when you do all your dodgy stuff.

    So if Trump had these Russian connections, the well established expectation is that Putin would invade under Trump. He didn't and that is a big fly in the ointment. It does not match up with expected behavior.

    Then you add all the other stuff (like this is all one big Hilary Hoax to begin with) and the foundation for this point against Trump disappears like a Fart in the wind.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    C: I have seen you argue both that Trump is so unpredictable, Putin feared to invade, and here you are saying because Trump was so friendly siding with Putin, What? Putin was so grateful he was sided with, then did not want to upset Trump?
    Plomo o Plato.

    Lead or Gold.

    You make a deal or you risk getting destroyed. We saw this style of foreign policy multiple times - whether it's Tweeting at Kim Jon Un that his Nuclear button is bigger, or Drone striking the Terrorist or the deal with the Taliban - You have a public show of working with the opposition, backed up by an implicit threat of violence.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    If course the option is D: Trump is so thin skinned he would rather say that he believed Putin that Russia would never interfere with American elections than give any credence to his many, many intelligence agencies. Trump for Trump yet again.
    I think I said years ago that there is no doubt a baseline level of interference from Russia in the US elections, going back probably to around the 1930s. Whether it's funding workers Unions, Proving McCarthy was right all along - I don't doubt that it has happened. Was there Russian gamesmanship in the 2016 election - undoubtedly.

    Was it more or less than any other election and did it move the needle? Not at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    These latest postings are far from your finest work. So what snake oil are you trying to sell us here? Trump is allowed to destroy the democratic process because of completely unsubstantiated allegations of mail in election fraud? So he destroys it, and replaces it with what? My bet would be totalitarianism - with him firmly at the top. You want that? You love Trump enough to forsake actual democracy? Looks to me like you have transformed into CINO - Conservative in name only.
    I mean, a Trump dictatorship would be better than the tooth faced liar we have currently, and I do like the God Emperor meme...

    Right - jokes out of the way:

    Where did these allegations come from? You have a number of states that do not have a history of mass Mail in Voting, without the protections of states like Florida or Ohio (which IIRC have a history of Mail in Voting, including several dubious events which lead to laws being tightened). Some of those states made the changes to their elections without going through the normal process.

    Further to that, there was one side who was heavily in favour of these changes (The Democrats) and one side that wasn't (The Republicans). So you have a massive change in the laws, pushed for by one party, a hotly contested election, a number of statistically strange events (at least 2-3 I witnessed myself), a vast number of election firsts etc.

    Then you have this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190

    High Voter turnout, in some cases abnormally high - Does it prove Fraud? No - but you can chalk this up to a hotly contested Election
    High Turnouts in specific Areas - We definitely had this. the Wisconsin Vote spike is probably the best example
    Large numbers of invalid votes - I forget what the actual rate was, but I do recall it being between 5 and 10% in some areas
    More votes than ballot papers issued - I remember this was claimed, although to be fair - I think it was found to be bad info on the part of one of the states
    Results that don't match - I mean, we have one candidate that can barely fill a carpark and another candidate who was filling stadiums...
    Delay in announcing results - we definitely had that.

    None of these means it was definitely fraud, but when you have one side push for changes that appear to benefit that one side - questions are going to be asked:

    Nemo iudex in causa sua.

    Would Trump be totalitarian? Clearly not. He had the justification that the rest of the world used for totalitarian measures under Covid and he didn't opt to use them. His Supreme court picks have all be textualists, which is not congruent with a Totalitarian.

    To answer the underlying question - We can point to cartel like behavior between one particular Political Party, Social Media, Traditional Media and Corporate America. The level of Bias in one direction has altered the Playing field and unless there is a major correction, then perhaps burning it all down and rebuilding it anew is the solution.

    I'm not there yet, but Biden's continued ineptitude is bringing me ever close to that position.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Well this is just too delicious - Trump himself said it in a post on.....Truth Social
    “Dr. Oz should declare victory, It makes it much harder for them to cheat with the ballots they ‘just happened to find.'
    Yep, there he goes again, touting electoral fraud, this time against his own party. Trumple-Thin-Skin just cannot stand losing at anything. He is quite prepared to trample all over democracy to do it - as are you by your unwavering support for him. CINO!
    You forget, I don't go on Truth Social, just like I don't watch Fox news.

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    What, you grew a beard to cover it? Did you dye your hair to match the orange color of the beard? You won't be selling it if not
    No, I meant we no longer need to buy Baby Wipes - it was a little celebration of a parental milestone.

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    Trump has lost yet another court case. A prosecution arising out of Durham's three year, multi million, investigation of Democrats spying on Trump has resulted in an acquittal. After less than a day of deliberation the jury acquitted Clinton lawyer Michael Sussman.

    Trump, of course, says it was rigged. So much losing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Trump has lost yet another court case. A prosecution arising out of Durham's three year, multi million, investigation of Democrats spying on Trump has resulted in an acquittal. After less than a day of deliberation the jury acquitted Clinton lawyer Michael Sussman.

    Trump, of course, says it was rigged. So much losing.
    Yeah, Durham is 0 for 1 after all this time, where as how many convictions for the Mueller investigation? Clearly the Durham one is a with hunt. As we know from a fellow kbers post, that explained away the massive disparities of black vs white drug convictions, we can have 100% confidence the US jusicial system got this one right. Shame on Trump and his with hunt.

    And fresh in, Hershel Walker is disgruntled that Trump is falsely claiming he told Hershel to run. suck it up Hershel and get used to it. Trump can only claim credit for other peoples achievements, as his own (positive) achievements cupboard is near naked.
    https://thehill.com/news/campaign/35...ut-senate-bid/

    More Herschel news, he has a little ways to go before he is as slick as other repubs at explaining how guns are wonderful.



    You can bet the repubs will not let him anywhere near a debate with Abrahams. Actually I see the repubs have also pulled out of future presidential debates too. Much harder to hide a wanker in plain sight, and it is not like democracy is built on healthy debate or anything

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    An illuminating video for why Donald Trump gets away with breaking the law with impunity - for now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    An illuminating video for why Donald Trump gets away with breaking the law with impunity - for now.
    Navarro is a walking contradiction, he has a PhD in economics. He was a professor but his views are regarded as outside the main stream of economic thought.
    Which is a polite way of saying weird. IIRC he was recommend to Trump by Trump Junior who was aware of the contents of a book he had written. Trump then took him on as an Advisor on trade.

    He was issued a subpoena (or more than one) but he's claiming executive privilege. There is only one person can grant executive privilege and that is the president. Biden has apparently declined to do so. Executive privilege isa powerful thing but there are disqualifiers: if the conversations in question are related to a crime the privilege ceases, if one of the parties to the privilege goes public the privilege is withdrawn. Navarro appears on any TV channel that will have him. He claims he was on his way to yet another TV appearance when he was arrested. Additionally he has already described the events in question in a book.

    There is the possibility he could face a jail sentence but he has decided to defend himself. His comments regarding legal matters tend toward the idiotic. His qualification is economics not law and it shows.

    Oh and he's counter suing the Congressional Committee that has been issuing the subpoenas.

    Watch this space...



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    In other news, I took a Trump this morning. Better out than in!
    Only a Rat can win a Rat Race!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    In other news, I took a Trump this morning. Better out than in!
    Coincidentally, it is well documented that Trump came into being after the devil had eaten a dodgy butter chicken the night before, the next morning out splattered Donald Trump. Explains that permanent orange hue

    In other Trump news. He has accused another republican run primary election of fraud, this time the one where Kemp won Gergia. Don't worry, the faithful will still be believing trump that every unfavorable election result must be fraud.
    speaking of which, all Mo Brooks had to do is relay trumps pathetic lie, and boom he is back in. Even Bannon the wall funds thief approves of him now
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...-race-00037154

    Guilty as fuck trump misplaced no fewer than 12 former secretaries, and claims he does not know what companies official document destruction rules are - very believable - for gormless trump supporters that is.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...etaries-2022-6

    Looks like a blood bath is on the way - this will be glorious!
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/des...rvative-summit

    Even Trumps closest aide says he lost it, to with trumps response is if course losing it
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...-2020-00035392
    Amazing how many Trump aides write books. Trump would have you believe every single last one of the many are lying - which if taken at his very dubious word would mean he simply lacks the skill sets to hire good people

    Once we see these texts, Should confirm it was very much an attempted coup.

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