Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[TheDemonLord]

A judge, who was rated by the US Bar Association as 'unqualified' and who at best is considered 'inexperienced', (that latter a major understatement), has ordered the Attorney General of the US to stop an investigation.

So, kinda like filing a motion to dismiss a case that has absolutely no hope in going through, but is still filed anyway on the off-chance it might work? Not exactly unheard...

The Attorney General is the top lawyer in the country, the president's right hand man on legal matters, but OK.

And the same guy that accused Parents of Children as being akin to Domestic Terrorists for not wanting their children taught Marxist garbage.

And the same President who essentially accused half of the country of being terrorists, that right hand man?

But OK.

She is blazing a unique judicial trail. She is only 41 now but if she never does anything else she has a place in history. Not one she'd particularly want but...

Her ruling, which is legally "unconventional", contains a landmine or two so we await developments. Developments there should be.

Well, we'll see. She could be Unconventional and brilliant, she could be Unconventional and crap.

The point remains - the request was not ridiculous.

Anyone, well almost anyone, who wants to know why her ruling is odd can check YouTube. Legal opinions from qualified people are available, suggested starting points might be the reactions of Harry Littman and Glen Kirschner.

I mean, one is a registered Democrat and the other has called for a Grand Jury on Trump for Covid deaths (Yet, try as I might, I could not find a similar call for the same for Biden - despite there being more deaths under Biden than Trump.....)

Could you pick anyone who are more blatantly partisan hacks?

I tend towards the legal analysis of Nick Rekiata, NateTheLawyer and LegalBytes.

[1/32 man]

I dont care what the legal opinions are...Trumpe is the biggest waste of space out there, a malicious mean spirited human who never was in the job to serve the people but to grift, grift, grift the night away.

I am fixated on the journey he is taking the US through, though.... and wonder if I will out live the "orange cunt" and laugh and cheer when he goes down.

[pete376403]

- despite there being more deaths under Biden than Trump.....).

Some would disagree on that https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-...-trump-1661528

Besides, trump claims he is really still the president, so all the deaths are on him

[TheDemonLord]

Some would disagree on that https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-...-trump-1661528

Y'know that the above Article is almost a year old? So by now, the Statement is definitely true.

However a quick read of it reveals some interesting Stats work - The Tweets that are being fact checked both put the Trump tally at just under 400,000 (392,000 and 396,000).

They then use some data from the CDC to confirm that it was definitely worse under Trump - the problem is we have things like this: https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...ovid-19-deaths

Which you'll notice is quite close to the figure cited by the tweets in question. John Hopkins University put, on the date of the Inauguration, the number as 400,000. 400,000 vs 392,000 vs 396,000. All in the same ballpark, with +/- 1% error margin

Whereas the CDC managed to find an extra 30,000 to 70,000 (they don't seem to be sure...) - which is quite the jump when the daily death rate in that time period was around 1,400 a day.

That's a jump of 10-20%.

So, on the one hand - you have different people using different sources but all coming to a set of numbers that are within 1% of each other (and given the nature and scale of stats - more than acceptable margin of error).

Then you have a politically biased organization post-hoc who comes out with figure that's 20% higher than everyone else, because it makes their guy look bad.

Do you see why people might have doubt?

Besides, trump claims he is really still the president, so all the deaths are on him

If he really was, we wouldn't have half of the problems we currently do....

[pritch]

This is an oldie but...

[TheDemonLord]

This is an oldie but...

I mean - when you've got various institutions that come right out and say it, hardly counts as a Conspiracy Theory, does it?

[pritch]

The Washington Post is reporting that a document describing a foreign government’s military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities, was found by FBI agents who searched Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence last month.

What possible reason could an ordinary citizen have for keeping that at home?

He should be under house arrest already.

[TheDemonLord]

The Washington Post is reporting that a document describing a foreign government’s military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities, was found by FBI agents who searched Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence last month.

What possible reason could an ordinary citizen have for keeping that at home?

He should be under house arrest already.

Maybe he's an avid player of War Thunder...

Okay Jokes aside - Firstly - why are we trusting the Washington Post? They've already had one story that was false and based upon an anonymous source - so what reason do we have to believe that this has any truth to it?

There's no evidence that Trump had any US Nuclear documents, so why should I believe the same liars when they say that he has Foreign Nuclear Documents?

And that's without addressing the Elephant in the room if it is true:

Who Cares if he has information from Foreign Countries?

Why would it be morally wrong to be in possession of another nations classified information? I had a look - there's potentially some concerns due to an Obama executive order - however when it comes to dealing with foreign classified info, it's a lot more grey - the rules seem to only cover info that is shared on the basis of co-operation.

Not to mention the memo that says he's taking stuff home and declassifying it (as is his executive privilege)

If Trump had the entire breakdown of North Koreas armed forces - do you think the average American would give care one iota?

[pete376403]

Who Cares if he has information from Foreign Countries?

Why would it be morally wrong to be in possession of another nations classified information? I had a look - there's potentially some concerns due to an Obama executive order - however when it comes to dealing with foreign classified info, it's a lot more grey - the rules seem to only cover info that is shared on the basis of co-operation.

Not to mention the memo that says he's taking stuff home and declassifying it (as is his executive privilege)

If Trump had the entire breakdown of North Koreas armed forces - do you think the average American would give care one iota?

America has allies with nuclear capability as well as "not-allies". What if the info was about Israel? (even though they completely deny any nukes). There are quite a few countries that would like to know more about that, and that could upset a few people.

[TheDemonLord]

America has allies with nuclear capability as well as "not-allies". What if the info was about Israel? (even though they completely deny any nukes). There are quite a few countries that would like to know more about that, and that could upset a few people.

What If, Could, Would etc.

Those words are doing a lot of heavy lifting. We don't know and the WaPo doesn't reveal it's source, so we've got no way of verifying if the person supplying the info is credible - and given their track record, especially in regards to Trump, we have little to no reason to believe it.

[husaberg]

The full list of Mueller indictments and plea deals
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was arrested in July 2017 and pleaded guilty in October 2017 to making false statements to the FBI. He got a 14-day sentence.

2) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team, related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances. He had two trials scheduled, and the first ended in a conviction on eight counts of financial crimes. To avert the second trial, Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018 (though Mueller’s team said in November that he breached that agreement by lying to them). He was sentenced to a combined seven and a half years in prison.

3) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February 2018 he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge. He was sentenced to 45 days in prison and 3 years of probation.

4) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December 2017 to making false statements to the FBI.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October 2018.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.

23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case last year.

24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.

36) Michael Cohen: In August 2018, Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations — related to hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with Donald Trump, as part of a separate investigation in New York (that Mueller had handed off). But in November, he made a plea deal with Mueller too, for lying to Congress about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

37) Roger Stone: In January 2019, Mueller indicted longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone on 7 counts. He accused Stone of lying to the House Intelligence Committee about his efforts to get in touch with WikiLeaks during the campaign, and tampering with a witness who could have debunked his story. He was convicted on all counts after a November 2019 trial.

Finally, there is one other person Mueller initially investigated, but handed over to others in the Justice Department to charge: Sam Patten. This Republican operative and lobbyist pleaded guilty to not registering as a foreign agent with his work for Ukrainian political bigwigs, and agreed to cooperate with the government.

[TheDemonLord]

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I mean, Russia was a Hoax.
They said Hunter Biden's laptop was fake, when it wasn't.
I don't remember Hillary's home getting raided at Gun Point (and remember - I've quoted the standard for prosecution, as set out by the FBI...)
And the Senior FBI person who got dismissed from the FBI for Political Bias.

Not to mention the various Text Messages that came out earlier (I think the Mueller Investigation) where it showed they were deeply partisan and hostile to Trump.


At this point - when you've got the different standards of behavior of the FBI towards Trump Vs Hillary, You've got FBI Staff dismissed for Bias, You've got fake ongoing investigations and covered-up real ones.

What more evidence do you need of there being bias against Trump?

[pritch]

America has allies with nuclear capability as well as "not-allies". What if the info was about Israel? (even though they completely deny any nukes). There are quite a few countries that would like to know more about that, and that could upset a few people.

The country is reported to be an ally. Trump already gave out super secret Israeli information live on TV early in his presidency. His idiocy knows no bounds.

He has confessed to having classified documents at Mar a Lago on multiple occasions. He likes to think he's the smartest guy in the room, but the only time that's likely to happen is when he's with his admirers.

His lawyers must be banging their heads against a wall. They tell him not to say anything, and he promptly fires of an angry 'Truth' containing yet another confession.

The DoJ have all the evidence, they should indict him and place him under house arrest.

[Berries]

What more evidence do you need of there being bias against Trump?

Of course there is. You cannot honestly believe he was ever presidential material, ever?

Don't bring Biden into this, or Bush. A failed businessman and then a TV host does not make a president. The country that is supposed to be representative of the free world is a laughing stock to the free world and Trump is partly to blame for that.

And the coffin dodger Biden, I hold no allegiance to useless twats.

[1/32 man]

He likes to think he's the smartest guy in the room

Dunning Kruger is a perfect fit, a beautiful fit, a uge fit, bigly even.