Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[TheDemonLord]

Of course there is. You cannot honestly believe he was ever presidential material, ever?

Okay - let's take that at face value.

Being a 'Bad' President, does not warrant the degree of demonstrable bias against him from the FBI:

Outright hostility, cover-ups, vindictive and malicious investigations etc. etc. And I must stress - the FBI recently had to fire a senior staffer for bias against Trump (the person who squashed the Hunter Laptop investigation and opened the Documents investigation).

But now let's go one step further: Was the world a better place during Trump than it is now? No Wars, no Energy shortages, no supply chain issues - the list goes on.

And then if you want to say he isn't Presidential Material - compared to what? His contemporaries give a rather poor showing. I mean compared to say Washington or Lincoln or Reagan - perhaps - but most Presidents fall short compared to them.

To give you as honest answer as I can: He was certainly unconventional - and there are many (including die-hard Republicans) who were critical of his use of Twitter (for example) - I personally liked that aspect. Does that unconventionality preclude him from being presidential? The answer for me lies in the outcome - what he did wasn't business as usual, but it was effective. His unpredictability kept other nations in-line.

A failed businessman and then a TV host does not make a president.

Failed is quite the stretch (I'm tempted to call this an oft-repeated lie) - but to answer the question, I'm going to Quote a little MegaDave:

"What d'ya mean I couldn't be the President, of the United States of America? Tell me something, it's still 'We, The People' Right?"

Reagan was an Actor, he did pretty well. Washington was a Surveyor.

Exactly what does make a President? I mean - if you say extensive experience at high level politics - you know exactly who I'm going to compare him to and I'm trying hard not to do so.

I'd go one step further - recent politics has shown that it isn't clear what makes a good political Leader.

The country that is supposed to be representative of the free world is a laughing stock to the free world and Trump is partly to blame for that.

No. And here's why: I remember when the EU laughed at Trump for saying their dependence on Russian Gas was a strategic Blunder.

Are they laughing now? I'm not sure - it might just be the chattering of teeth from the fact that they are Cold.

'Intellectuals' who have been protected from the stupidity of their ideas laughed at him, but now they managed to get their ideas implemented - they aren't laughing now.

The biggest reason for the loss of face from the US is, however, entirely on the shoulders of Biden (Afghanistan withdrawal).

And the coffin dodger Biden, I hold no allegiance to useless twats.

Do you hold the same hatred for Biden that you do for Trump? If not, why not?

[nerrrd]

President Trump has actively cultivated the bias against him (which existed largely I would say due to his perceived unsuitability for the job prior to becoming President) right from the beginning.

It's a big part of his appeal to his supporters, and he plays on it all the time. I don't see any mysterious agenda to it, it's a natural result of his daily interactions with the media during his Presidency.

Journalists have always had a political bias, it's most obvious I would say in real time on the radio, but it's always been there in the background in every other medium (despite all the advertising about being 'fair' and 'balanced').

Wherever there are people involved, there will be bias.

[TheDemonLord]

President Trump has actively cultivated the bias against him (which existed largely I would say due to his perceived unsuitability for the job prior to becoming President) right from the beginning.

'Perceived Unsuitability for the Job' - based on what? Remember when I challenged people to cite why they didn't like Trump - the reasons given were all traced back to media hit pieces written after he announced his intent to run. Prior to the existence of those articles - there was no perceived unsuitability.

Only that he wasn't Team Democrat and therefore must be evil.

That all said - I will grant you that he embraced his outsider status.

It's a big part of his appeal to his supporters, and he plays on it all the time.

Definitely agree.

I don't see any mysterious agenda to it, it's a natural result of his daily interactions with the media during his Presidency.

When they've fired a top guy for Bias, I don't think we can call it a Mysterious Agenda anymore - more like confirmed fact.

Journalists have always had a political bias, it's most obvious I would say in real time on the radio, but it's always been there in the background in every other medium (despite all the advertising about being 'fair' and 'balanced').

Wherever there are people involved, there will be bias.

When it comes to the Media - there's certain things I can live with. On a given issue - I can accept the Guardian and CNN will always give the Left Wing perspective on it. That's fine.

Where I draw the line is things like the Russia Hoax - completely made up. Or the Coverage of Covid - under Trump you had 24/7 news cycles with daily Death Meters etc. Which all curiously disappeared with Biden. Or the Infamous 'Mostly Peaceful Protest' said in front of a burning Building. Or Hunter Biden. Or the multiple instances where the Media has been shown to be lying about Trump.

That goes beyond just Bias.

[pritch]

President Trump has actively cultivated the bias against him .

Aaah but if it's true it's not bias. Trump's ramblings were so insane at times that if the press printed what he said they'd be accused of deliberately making him look like an idiot. So the press cleaned up his word salads so that they didn't appear as incomprehensible as they were. Yes there was bias but it was in his favour.

Currently there is speculation among the Twitterati that the ally mentioned in the nuclear documents drama is Israel. That's interesting. It's thought that the Saudi's wanted nukes. We know that MBS said he has Kushner in his pocket. We know the Saudis gave Kushner $2Billion. We know now that Trump had Nuclear documentation. We know that anything Trump has is for sale. All of which adds up to nothing. Yet.

[TheDemonLord]

Aaah but if it's true it's not bias.

Except all those times that they made shit up about him.

Trump's ramblings were so insane at times that if the press printed what he said they'd be accused of deliberately making him look like an idiot. So the press cleaned up his word salads so that they didn't appear as incomprehensible as they were. Yes there was bias but it was in his favour.

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooow.

You seriously trying to say that the Media who actively hated Trump, were biased in his favour?
And that all they did was clean up his Wording?

This is levels of delusion that I never expected from you Pritch.

Just a single example to disprove how wrong you are on this:

https://www.google.com/search?client...rs+and+rapists

Multiple articles - all saying that Trump thinks all Mexicans are Murderers and Rapists.

The actual Quote? Well, he's talking about notorious Cartel MS-13 (who are Murderers and Rapists).

Funny how the Media - who, in your words, were merely 'tidying up his language' - forgot to add that context in. It's almost as if it was deliberately omitted, Some might say intentionally.

Currently there is speculation among the Twitterati that the ally mentioned in the nuclear documents drama is Israel. That's interesting. It's thought that the Saudi's wanted nukes. We know that MBS said he has Kushner in his pocket. We know the Saudis gave Kushner $2Billion. We know now that Trump had Nuclear documentation. We know that anything Trump has is for sale. All of which adds up to nothing. Yet.

Kushner... Not Trump.

And let's not forget - The Democrats have the likes of Ilhan Omar in their ranks - she's got some awfully spicy views on the Jews...

[pritch]

It should never have got past this.

[pzkpfw]

It should never have got past this.

Yes.

That's the same Trump who tweeted (whatever it's called on his loser platform) last week: "Why are people so mean?".

[pritch]

Richard Michetti has been sentenced to nine months jail and two years supervision for his part in the Jan 6 coup attempt. He was turned in by his ex after he called her a moron for not believing the election was stolen.

He’s got time now to figure out who the moron teally is.

[husaberg]

Richard Michetti has been sentenced to nine months jail and two years supervision for his part in the Jan 6 coup attempt. He was turned in by his ex after he called her a moron for not believing the election was stolen.

He’s got time now to figure out who the moron teally is.

Note what he pleaded guilty to carries a max prison term of 20 years its not for staging a unruly protest.
despite what others will claim.

our client understands that a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1512(c)(2), (2).
carries a maximum sentence of 20 years of imprisonment; a fine of $250,000, pursuant to 18
U.S.C. § 3571(b)(3); a term of supervised release of not more than 3 years, pursuant to 18 U.S.C.
§ 3583(b)(2); and an obligation to pay any applicable interest or penalties on fines and restitution
not timely made.

[Berries]

Do you hold the same hatred for Biden that you do for Trump? If not, why not?

Never met either of them so hate is a bit strong. I would not even say I dislike them for much the same reason. Having seen Trump prior to him being President I just can't understand how he got voted in to the job. Pretty good on The Apprentice at times but not a statesman in any way, shape or form unlike most of the ones I recall, excluding Bush obviously.

Biden? I don't know. He never had a TV show so I know nothing about him other than he looked like he should have been in a rest home when he got the job. When he is on the news I switch off and don't tend to read anything about him in the paper or online. Guess I don't really have an opinion on him other than him being too old and doddery for what should be an important job but which has been whittled down to a circus act due to certain predecessors.

As I said before, I am happy living my life without worrying too much about what those people are doing. I still have to go to work in the morning so they are kind of irrelevant to me. The same goes for all politicians.

[F5 Dave]

They say you aren't given respect. You have to earn it.

Biden hasn't earned hatred.

Trump on the other hand is a narcissist lying cunt. Easy to hate.

You, TDL I just feel sorry for.

[TheDemonLord]

Biden hasn't earned hatred.

He absolutely has.

- Inflation
- Afghanistan
- Fuel shortages
- Immigration
- Failure as World Police
- Supply chain issues
- Embracing of Intersectional axioms

And that's without bringing up any of the personal/family stuff (I mean, who calls their Dad 'Pedo Peter', even in jest?)

He has, objectively, made the lives of a significant portion of Americans worse. The repurcussions of those policies have made MY life worse.

That, alone, earns him Hatred.

Trump on the other hand is a narcissist lying cunt. Easy to hate.

Even Easier to hate when you've been sold on a bunch of Misquotes, half-truths and outright lies.

You, TDL I just feel sorry for.

Why?

Time has been exceedingly vindicating to me.

Every day of Biden's shit-show proves just how good a President Trump was. The evidence of how little Lockdowns actually work vs the economic and societal damage that they have done is starting to come in droves, to the point, where even those who were for those abominations are admitting it.

[1/32 man]

The Determined lord......I cannot believe you are defending a person such as trump.

I cannot be botthered reading the long winded defenses of the guy that you write.

I guess you would employ a person based on the statements in their CV rather than your instincts when you meet them face to face?

Been there done that, failed.

[TheDemonLord]

Never met either of them so hate is a bit strong. I would not even say I dislike them for much the same reason. Having seen Trump prior to him being President I just can't understand how he got voted in to the job. Pretty good on The Apprentice at times but not a statesman in any way, shape or form unlike most of the ones I recall, excluding Bush obviously.

The best way I can articulate it, is that Trump followed in a very long tradition of American 'Fuck you' attitude. You are right, he wasn't a statesman - he was very much an outsider and he talked about many of the things that a significant part of the Country were frustrated about:

- Immigration
- Status Quo and entrenched Bureaucrats
- Revivifying American Exceptionalism
- Endless Wars
- His opposition to the current brand of radical Leftism (AKA Woke/Intersectional/Neo-Marxist ideals)

He didn't talk like a Statesman, which is part of his appeal.

Biden? I don't know. He never had a TV show so I know nothing about him other than he looked like he should have been in a rest home when he got the job. When he is on the news I switch off and don't tend to read anything about him in the paper or online.

Indeed - all the hallmarks of the Most Popular President in US History

Guess I don't really have an opinion on him other than him being too old and doddery for what should be an important job but which has been whittled down to a circus act due to certain predecessors.

If he had done nothing in Office, Literally Nothing, not repealed any of Trumps successful policies that was fuelling (pun intended) American Prosperity and growth - then sure, I'd have no reason to hate on him.

However, the policies that his has introduced have actively hurt not just Americans, but everyone around the Globe.

It's one thing to do nothing and have bad things happened - like a Firefighter standing by a Burning Building and not helping - and we could armchair general and argue what ought to have been done.

It's another thing to actively engage in the bad things - like that same Firefighter pouring petrol all over the building next to a building on fire.

And if that is not sufficient, the disparity in treatment between Trump and Biden is also a source of annoyance. Biden has done, on many fronts, objectively worse than Trump - where are the 4 year long Hoax investigations into Biden? There's plenty of Material that could justify a real Investigation (10% for the big guy).

Where is the same Outrage against Biden for things that Trump was crucified for in the Media?

As I said before, I am happy living my life without worrying too much about what those people are doing. I still have to go to work in the morning so they are kind of irrelevant to me. The same goes for all politicians.

Not a bad outlook TBH - it's only when what the Politicians do has an impact on what I'm doing that I get annoyed. And between Jacinda and Biden - they have had a large impact on my life in the negative sense.

[TheDemonLord]

The Determined lord......I cannot believe you are defending a person such as trump.

Why?

Even the courts allow for the most depraved and guilty people a Defence. Fact is - under Trump, Life was good. Under Biden, it's worse.

I cannot be botthered reading the long winded defenses of the guy that you write.

Scared you might learn something?

I guess you would employ a person based on the statements in their CV rather than your instincts when you meet them face to face?

Been there done that, failed.

Do you know what the Irony of that Statement is?

Let's write an Imaginary CV for a US President for both Trump and Biden - on Paper, at least, Biden would be the clear candidate (multiple years experience).

It's my Gut instinct on what they did that told me which one to back - and as above - everyday of the Biden Trainwreck is proof of just how good Trump was.