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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    the Biden laptop - can you explain how the person who had the laptop, legally blind, was able to sort through thousands of e-mails to find the incriminating ones?
    You know that being Legally Blind doesn't always mean you can't see right? I have friends who are legally blind - yet can read emails (with certain screen aids) etc.

    However, the question is rather a red herring - Are you trying to imply that the Laptop isn't real? IIRC the guy got curious when Hunter failed to pick it back up - then handed it over - it was the people it was handed over to that released the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    he will just change the subject thrown in another hundred other gish gallops
    Not at all, since I'm not actually discussing the contents of the Laptop - I'm pointing to something that is true, that was blocked as Misinformation - to prove the larger point that the difference between the two increasingly comes down to Political Affiliation.
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    I mean, if you are going to post logical fallacies - at least make sure they are relevant.

    For example, we know Hunter Biden's laptop is his because of the countless pictures of him on it - y'know - the ones of him doing drugs, fucking hookers etc.

    What you are doing is your classic Red Herring Fallacy
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Usual Husa-Waffle
    I've also got to make the point - for someone who likes to post the definition of the ad Hominem fallacy, your post sure does contain a lot of personal attacks.

    One might say this is your classic projection of all the things you are currently doing onto your opponents...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    You know that being Legally Blind doesn't always mean you can't see right? I have friends who are legally blind - yet can read emails (with certain screen aids) etc.

    However, the question is rather a red herring - Are you trying to imply that the Laptop isn't real? IIRC the guy got curious when Hunter failed to pick it back up - then handed it over - it was the people it was handed over to that released the info.
    I have observed a blind person using a screen reader - they are not particularly fast. And the mail archive still needs to be opened by a mail program so thats going to take a while as well, then searching the archive using key words is awkward if you don't already know what these key words are, ie what prompts a person to search for (e.g.) "ukraine" unless they have prior knowlege of what the emails are going to be about

    There was a laptop that was owned by "someone", and dropped off at a repair shop by "someone, and later collected by "someone". You missed this bit (are you legally blind?)
    According to the New York Post story, a person—who Mac Isaac could not identify because he is legally blind—left the computer at the repair shop to repair water damage, but once this was completed, the shop had no contact information for its owner, and nobody ever paid for it or came to pick it up. Criticism has been focused on Mac Isaac over inconsistencies in his accounts of how the laptop came into his possession and how he passed it on to Giuliani and the FBI. When interviewed by CBS News, Mac Isaac offered contradictory statements about his motivations. Thomas Rid, a political scientist and disinformation expert at Johns Hopkins University, noted that the emails could have been forged or that forged material could have been mixed with genuine materials, a "common feature" of disinformation operations
    An analysis by Distributed Denial of Secrets of 128,755 emails allegedly copied from the laptop and circulated by allies and former staff of President Donald Trump showed "signs of tampering" including 145 modification dates and emails created more than a year after Hunter Biden allegedly had the laptop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    I have observed a blind person using a screen reader - they are not particularly fast. And the mail archive still needs to be opened by a mail program so thats going to take a while as well, then searching the archive using key words is awkward if you don't already know what these key words are, ie what prompts a person to search for (e.g.) "ukraine" unless they have prior knowlege of what the emails are going to be about
    I never mentioned Screen Readers - the people I'm thinking of have a thing to magnify certain items.

    I'm also not entirely convinced about how long it takes to load a PST (all of 5 seconds) and then go trawling for juicy bits of gossip. Mainly because I've had to do it (on behalf of a company who owned the mail account used by an Employee) - less than half an hour to find something that confirmed the suspicions of the Employer.

    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    There was a laptop that was owned by "someone", and dropped off at a repair shop by "someone, and later collected by "someone". You missed this bit (are you legally blind?)
    According to the New York Post story, a person—who Mac Isaac could not identify because he is legally blind—left the computer at the repair shop to repair water damage, but once this was completed, the shop had no contact information for its owner, and nobody ever paid for it or came to pick it up. Criticism has been focused on Mac Isaac over inconsistencies in his accounts of how the laptop came into his possession and how he passed it on to Giuliani and the FBI. When interviewed by CBS News, Mac Isaac offered contradictory statements about his motivations.
    Are you trying to say that it ISN'T Hunter Biden's Laptop? Because I'm pretty sure that this has been conclusively proven that it's his Laptop.

    Owing to the multitude of Pictures of him on it - with things like Skittles on his Junk. I mean, he was an avid drug user, so the notion that They drugged him up and took multiple pictures isn't completely far-fetched.

    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Thomas Rid, a political scientist and disinformation expert at Johns Hopkins University, noted that the emails could have been forged or that forged material could have been mixed with genuine materials, a "common feature" of disinformation operations
    So, someone who believed and helped propagate the Russian Hoax, believes it's Russia....

    Riiiiiiight.

    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    An analysis by Distributed Denial of Secrets of 128,755 emails allegedly copied from the laptop and circulated by allies and former staff of President Donald Trump showed "signs of tampering" including 145 modification dates and emails created more than a year after Hunter Biden allegedly had the laptop.
    Ah yes, another Rabid Left-wing entity (resplendent with a Pride flag in their Logo...) says it isn't True! Well I guess that settles it!

    Sounds a lot like a Conspiracy.

    Perhaps Russian Misinformation.

    I mean - I've been hauled over the metaphorical coals for a lot lot less.

    Getting back to the point - in this example - whether the Emails are 100% legit or have been fiddled with is neither here nor there - the point was - the Laptop was real, it was declared as Misinformation At the behest of an FBI who knew it made their Guy - Joe Biden look bad and Censured, which we later got confirmation that the Laptop was real.

    It wasn't just that there was potentially (according to your source, whom I completely disregard as biased to the point of untrustworthy) less than 0.1% of emails had issues, it was that the entire story was fake.

    The pictures of Hunter doing drugs? Fake.
    Pictures of him fucking hookers? Fake.
    Emails of him doing corrupt things in Ukraine? Fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    See, that's quite the Stretch.

    I could make the equally justified claim that anyone who spouts Marxist nonsense are also repeating information that was getting people killed.
    FFS! Over a million people died, many of whom didn't need to. Many died because of a mental case posing as a president and their 'freedumb'.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Just like we have to Honor the Holocaust, right? Come on Man.
    I have no idea what you are on about. She confused gazpacho, a chilled tomato soup, with the Gestapo. Two very different things.
    Who has to Honor (sic) the Holocaust? That's a rhetorical question, you don't need to answer.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    And she would be correct - like for example, the Government approaching Corporations to do their dirty work (Censoring citizens)
    She is correct? You really need to brush up your reading skills.

    This:
    fragrant
    Having a pleasant odor.
    Affecting the olfactory nerves agreeably; sweet of smell; odorous; having or emitting an agreeable perfume.
    Sweet-smelling; having a pleasant (usually strong) scent or fragrance.


    Is not the same as this:
    Flagrant
    Conspicuously bad, offensive, or reprehensible.
    Flaming; blazing.
    Flaming; inflamed; glowing; burning; ardent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    FFS! Over a million people died, many of whom didn't need to. Many died because of a mental case posing as a president and their 'freedumb'.
    What is the price of Freedom? What was it on the 6th of June? What was it on the 3rd of September? What is it every year for preventable health ailments? What is it for the Road Toll?

    Let's put that number into perspective - sounds like a lot, right? 700,000 Americans die of Heart Disease every year many of whom don't need to.

    However, the real question (which is the one you ignored) is what culpability should people have for spreading things that have negative consequences? Given that Communism killed between 100-200 million people in the 20th century many of whom didn't need to die is their culpability any more or less than someone who spreads their opinion about Health interventions (some of which are not as clear-cut as you make them out to be)?

    Many died because of their own choices (which includes their Freedom) to be Obese - something like 50% of hospitalizations had this as a factor - and I say this as someone who struggles with weight.

    Ultimately the Individual gets to pick and choose what information and what courses of action they take to protect themselves. That freedom is innate. It also means that some people are going to die as a consequence of their own stupidity.

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    I have no idea what you are on about. She confused gazpacho, a chilled tomato soup, with the Gestapo. Two very different things.
    Who has to Honor (sic) the Holocaust? That's a rhetorical question, you don't need to answer.
    It was Joe Biden. I even gave you the hint with the 'Come on Man'.

    Funny how it wasn't front-page news (or at least, not on the news sites that you visit) as an example of how stupid Biden clearly is, yet everytime a Right-Winger makes a Gaffe...

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    She is correct? You really need to brush up your reading skills.

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    Having a pleasant odor.
    Affecting the olfactory nerves agreeably; sweet of smell; odorous; having or emitting an agreeable perfume.
    Sweet-smelling; having a pleasant (usually strong) scent or fragrance.


    Is not the same as this:
    Flagrant
    Conspicuously bad, offensive, or reprehensible.
    Flaming; blazing.
    Flaming; inflamed; glowing; burning; ardent.
    Yep - the Rights violations do stink under the Democrats, often with the distinct aroma of Bullshit.
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    I have pictures of Valentino Rossi on my laptop.That (by your logic) proves my laptop is owned by Valentino Rossi. I can ride like him, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    I have pictures of Valentino Rossi on my laptop.That (by your logic) proves my laptop is owned by Valentino Rossi. I can ride like him, too.
    Do you have pictures of Rossi with Skittles on his Dick?

    If not, I'm gonna be skeptical of the ownership.

    In case you've missed it - I'm talking about Private pictures that aren't found in any other source except the Laptop
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    yeah seems 100% totally legit........

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    Congrats - you've both copied and pasted the same section of an article and seem to be presenting it as if it's two different discrediting opinions.

    There was an image that you would often post, I believe of a WW2 Propagandist - something about lies being repeated in order to become 'truth'

    Projection really does seem to suit you
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I mean, if you are going to post logical fallacies - at least make sure they are relevant.

    For example, we know Hunter Biden's laptop is his because of the countless pictures of him on it - y'know - the ones of him doing drugs, fucking hookers etc.

    What you are doing is your classic Red Herring Fallacy
    You have personally viewed these pictures? Can you provide a URL where others can also see them?
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