Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[TheDemonLord]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...l-unrest-acled

Whats really ironic is most of the people killed were killed by "right wing gun enthusiasts"
but hey you never let facts get in the way of a good troll....

The fact they can't even get the details of Kyle Rittenhouse correct tells me that the entire article is Bunk.

For reference - as per the court case (for those of us that watched it) Wisconsin has an exception for those under 18 to carry Long Guns (Rifles and Shotguns over a certain length). Long Guns legally are not 'Dangerous Weapons' and since Kyle's rifle was a full-length rifle (not an SBR), he was 100% entitled to carry it.

IIRC the Judge asked the prosecution if they'd like to measure the overall length, the prosecution declined (because they knew it was bunk) and the charge was dismissed.

And it does gloss over that some of the people that were killed, were killed by Left Wing activists specifically for their political views.

I also don't see any mention of Darryl Brookes or the Christmas Parade attack (topical given that the farce that was his trial recently ended) - I mean, the Guardian wouldn't be deliberately omitting information in order to maintain their narrative, now would they....

[pritch]

Is this the writing on the wall?

[Laava]

TDL for president! He has all the skills a trunt protege could want! Master debater! More guns for safety! Build that wall!

[F5 Dave]

What our two resident Trump loonies don't seem to understand is that we live in the South Pacific on a collection of islands. They seem to think that American social media is reality.

I hope the GOP can put up a strong candidate as the Democrats don't seem able to. I don't particularly care who wins from this distance just as long as Trump doesn't.

We aren't Democrats. We live in New Zealand. We are affected by world politics and having a Strong US helps balance thing, for all the downsides. Having a clown in the pocket of obvious dictators does not.

[TheDemonLord]

TDL for president! He has all the skills a trunt protege could want! Master debater! More guns for safety! Build that wall!

I'd be a Terrible president.

However, Dictator for life....

[pritch]

US National Archives have released a list of items missing from Trump's time as President. These are not documents, these are valuables like jewellery and a gold medal from the king of Saudi Arabia among other things.

There is a federal law covering gifts to presidents from foreign nations. If a gift is of minor value ($400+ ?) the president may elect to keep it. Anything more valuable than that is the property of the nation and remains wth Archives. Except that a number of valuable items are missing. Of course.

I wonder whether it was Melania or Ivanka scored the missing diamond ear rings. Whichever, when the items are found they should be charged with receiving stolen goods.

It's way past time this career criminal was actually charged with something.

[TheDemonLord]

What our two resident Trump loonies don't seem to understand is that we live in the South Pacific on a collection of islands. They seem to think that American social media is reality.

I hope the GOP can put up a strong candidate as the Democrats don't seem able to. I don't particularly care who wins from this distance just as long as Trump doesn't.

We aren't Democrats. We live in New Zealand. We are affected by world politics and having a Strong US helps balance thing, for all the downsides. Having a clown in the pocket of obvious dictators does not.

We are downstream from what happens in America. Like it or not.

Bad ideas in the US become bad ideas in NZ.

Half of what Jacinda has done to this country is right out of the current Democrat playbook. One look at what California has become - the homeless, the crime etc. (which is a shame cause I remember visiting California when I was a kid and it was amazing) is a vision into what's in store for NZ.

And unlike the US, we can't simply move to a different state where there is Governance based upon a strong foundation of Natural Rights and principles.

Your hatred of Trump blinds you to the fact he lead a Strong US, that's why from 2016-2019 in NZ, despite Stalinda, things weren't too bad.

Was he Chaotic? Sure. But his chaos sided with individual freedom. And I'd take that any day over what the left has currently become.

[Laava]

This article kind of sums up what is happening at the moment, and it is all bad for Trunt. Not to mention all the other stuff he is involved with that is potentially going to burn his flabby orange arse.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/us-can...luding-melania

[pritch]

One thing that has come out of the US mid term election is that developments in the way we communicate have left the pollsters behind. Almost without exception the polls were wildly inaccurate with their red wave predictions.

I don't even know how they do their polls but if they rely heavily on calling landline phones it is obsolete. Ringing cellphones won't work either, the Gen Z ers will not answer an unknown number. Even when lost in the mountains and it's rescuers trying to call them. (True story.)

The very few people who predicted a close result were using different methods to the pollsters and were laughed at for their lack of professionalism. He who laughs last...

I'm not sure if that will translate directly to NZ but our pollsters need to pay attention to what happened.

[TheDemonLord]

One thing that has come out of the US mid term election is that developments in the way we communicate have left the pollsters behind. Almost without exception the polls were wildly inaccurate with their red wave predictions.

I don't even know how they do their polls but if they rely heavily on calling landline phones it is obsolete. Ringing cellphones won't work either, the Gen Z ers will not answer an unknown number. Even when lost in the mountains and it's rescuers trying to call them. (True story.)

The very few people who predicted a close result were using different methods to the pollsters and were laughed at for their lack of professionalism. He who laughs last...

I'm not sure if that will translate directly to NZ but our pollsters need to pay attention to what happened.

It's certainly one for the ages, I know that in the US there are some polling organizations that exclusively use Landlines and historically they have tended to give more conservative results than other polling methods.

However, in recent times, the election of Trump, the polling around Brexit etc. polling has typically had a slight left-bias, so for the polls to not only be out, but be out and skewed right is certainly something. And this was across the board.

There are some theories - such as polling data encouraging large numbers of Democrats to vote, whereas the Republicans sat on their laurels. I've seen some discussion around some states and how they conduct their election, in particular the handling of Mail-In votes, with many people pointing to what happened in Florida for the GWB election and how since then Florida really has been the benchmark - essentially asking the question: "Florida seems to have gotten it's shit sorted after the 2000 election, why are other states so bad at counting votes?"

[husaberg]

New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman wrote on Twitter: “Trump is indeed furious this morning, particularly about Mehmet Oz, and is blaming everyone who advised him to back Oz – including his wife, describing it as not her best decision, according to people close to him.”

About half of Mr Trump’s chosen candidates for Congress suffered losses, denting the former president’s influence as he is widely expected to formally launch another presidential bid.

An adviser told CNN the former president was “livid” and “screaming at everybody”.

A spokesman for Trump Taylor Budowich later denied the reports, saying they were “completely fake” and that the former president had “won overwhelmingly at the ballot box”.

[sugilite:Me]

I'm sure if I was to look into the detail of each investigation, then we would see each one was focused on a different aspect - but let's presume that it was 10 investigations about the exact same thing:

On the base facts, what Hillary did with her email server was worse than what Trump has done at Mar-A-Lago:

Hilarious concept. So if it were say a murder with 10 different aspects, you would be cool with 10 separate trials?
I'm sure you will join my passionate hope that somehow, someway - BOTH Trump and hillary go down for their crimes.

See, if the voters were as concerned as you are about it, then surely they would reject the candidates that Trump endorsed and the ones who, according to you, participated in 'the big lie'

Yet, they have not.

Oh dear old chum, this comment has aged rather poorly in only 2 days
Fun fact: the dastardly dems lost fewer seats in the House of Representatives than any Democratic parties first midterm election in the last 40 years.
Who knew the US could produce a turn out of voters to insert the tampon of common sense, to significantly stem the extremist MAGA mobs red wave.

A lot of Trumps nominees went down faster than your pants if you had spotted a nicker-less Tulsi, bending over wearing a mini.

If the presidential election were to run tomorrow. Trump would lose again - to Biden. No question.

they know they are about to pay for their metaphorical crimes against the country and all that power and influence is about to be yeeted away from them.

And I cannot wait.

Awwww, what a lovely MAGAT fairy tale that was.
Meanwhile, a tdl continues to wait

As for the court cases - Again, I've acknowledged that I cannot meet the 'beyond all reasonable doubt' burden of proof to win a court case. As a single example - you want me to believe that Joe Biden got a greater share of the Black vote than the first Black president of the US... Seems Legit.

I mean, that would make a great Tui ad....

Magat fairy tales never get old

The only 'evidence' that Fred Trump was a white supremecist was him being arrested at a KKK rally

,,,,,,
Full status Magat attained - black belt 7th dan!

Will you admit that you were wrong all this time - afterall - you proudly proclaim that loosing 50 court cases must mean something, so if the same is true for Trump that he's not been convicted in 50 court cases or 100 court cases or 1,000 - then what? See - for all the accusations you levy at me - allow me to fire one back:

That last statements sounds like regardless of the evidence, regardless of acquittals, you have already decided Trump won the ele... sorry 'is a criminal'

Like you, I will have to wait until the investigations have come to a conclusion.
As far as I'm concerned, there is ample evidence now to criminally charge him, but will the powers that be be brave enough to admit they let a criminal take over the so called most powerful job in the world? I think not.

yet my position is far softer on that issue than your position is on Trump - so do I give you an equally hard time?

Well you sure like posting on pretty much everything I say

P.S Remind me, how many percentage points did Ron santimonius win Florida by? (That new nickname is so catchy!)
Put that number beside the amount of magat canidates endorsed by Trump that crashed and burned. (the morgue was like - quite full)

Trumps Ceasar/Brutus moment might be a lot closer than I thought. Good times ahead old chap, good times ahead

[Laava]

Hilarious concept. If the presidential election were to run tomorrow. Trump would lose again - to Biden. No question.

That truly is a hilarious concept. Biden getting voted in. he gets voted in because people don't want to vote for Trunt.
What amazes me is that a suitable candidate is nowhere to be seen. The people that are right for the job probably don't want a bar of it I guess?…

[TheDemonLord]

Hilarious concept. So if it were say a murder with 10 different aspects, you would be cool with 10 separate trials?

A house/senate investigation is not a trial per se - so to take your argument.

Let's say a particularly egregious crime was committed and so we had an investigation to found out:

1: Why the killer was able to get into the country?
2: How the Killer was able to get a licence?
3: How the Killer was able to obtain items that should be illegal for him to possess?
4: Why community feedback that the Killer was a Risk was not actioned?
5: What the causal factors were for the Killer to do what he did?

(No points for guessing what I'm alluding to...)

There's other areas where it would appropriate for there to be an investigation into. Some of them have overlaps, some could be answered in one large over-arching investigation (AKA a Royal Commission) but they could also be separated to allow for specialization.

I'm sure you will join my passionate hope that somehow, someway - BOTH Trump and hillary go down for their crimes.

I mean, I'll take the quote Hillary committed a Crime?

Oh dear old chum, this comment has aged rather poorly in only 2 days
Fun fact: the dastardly dems lost fewer seats in the House of Representatives than any Democratic parties first midterm election in the last 40 years.
Who knew the US could produce a turn out of voters to insert the tampon of common sense, to significantly stem the extremist MAGA mobs red wave.

It did, didn't it? Even Pritch acknowledged that almost all the polling was pointing that way. Oh well, the states that have gone deep red like Florida will continue to prove the point as to which type of governance people want.

A lot of Trumps nominees went down faster than your pants if you had spotted a nicker-less Tulsi, bending over wearing a mini.

Just two comments here:

1: Brilliant line
2: Are you saying you'd be any different?

If the presidential election were to run tomorrow. Trump would lose again - to Biden. No question.

Maybe, maybe not - there's been a lot of discussion on the Conservative side as to what happened, some more spicy than others. There has been comments about the picking of Candidates being overconfident - e.g. picking a strong candidate to go against a deep blue state, and picking someone like Dr Oz (who I have no particular feeling for) against someone with Brain Damage.

Awwww, what a lovely MAGAT fairy tale that was.
Meanwhile, a tdl continues to wait

It's a long game.

Magat fairy tales never get old

Well, it is a true statement and it is equally unbelievable.

Full status Magat attained - black belt 7th dan!

This has nothing to do with Maga this or Maga that - this is just an articulation of the Facts, the only thing that ties Fred to being racist is a 1920 arrest. 100 years ago. No one has claimed since he was a raised, the arrest doesn't mention that he was a Klan member and we have to look at it in the context of the times.

If you have other evidence that he was a racist (actual documented evidence) - then by all means.

Like you, I will have to wait until the investigations have come to a conclusion.
As far as I'm concerned, there is ample evidence now to criminally charge him, but will the powers that be be brave enough to admit they let a criminal take over the so called most powerful job in the world? I think not.

The people who you are insinuating would need to 'be brave' already outright hate Trump and are doing everything they can to smear him - so this line makes zero sense.

Well you sure like posting on pretty much everything I say

Indeed, as I've often said, the difference of opinion is interesting.

P.S Remind me, how many percentage points did Ron santimonius win Florida by? (That new nickname is so catchy!)
Put that number beside the amount of magat canidates endorsed by Trump that crashed and burned. (the morgue was like - quite full)

Trumps Ceasar/Brutus moment might be a lot closer than I thought. Good times ahead old chap, good times ahead

I'm seeing calls for Trump to step aside and let Ron ascend - especially based on the Midterms - I'd still like a second Trump presidency, if only for the 'Fuck You' value it would provide.

[1/32 man]

I predict a bloodbath

What sort of a sorry statement is that TDL?

I am assuming that was a figurative use of the term 'bloodbath".... I didnt notice the dems getting "slaughtered" by the GOP gang.

Loony Dr Oz was beaten thank goodness and no guns were used.

I am starting to think TDL is not a real person but a russian troll who is on a mission to stir the stale depths of NZ social media and sow discontent and anxiety among those foolish enough to engage with him/her.

Some great posts recently by others though...keep it up chaps. You have my respect.