Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[onearmedbandit]

Unreserved apologies you are correct, it was in fact gremlin that infracted me for calling someone thick (pretty sure the exact word i used was stupid)
but it is odd that the last 7 infraction's i have had have all been from you wouldn't you say..
just as well that KB has such vigorous rules that these rules apply evenly to everyone including moderators.

If you have issue with the way I've moderated posts here then please take it to the site admin. See what their opinion is. I'll be very surprised if they feel I've acted with bias or malicious intent.

'For the record I have no problem with you calling me thick, only the hypocrisy of your reasoning and motivations tuotehat make you need to resort to personal attacks, whilst at the same time vilifying others.

On a personal level I make no bones about the fact that I do not like you due to the way you have behaved on the forum in the past. Being a moderator doesn't not exclude me from thinking this. And I'm careful to make sure that I moderate with no bias. But lets be honest here, you have deserved every infraction given by myself and any other moderator. Once again if you feel this isn't so take it up with a site admin for clarification.

again the list you linked which i replied to does not suggest what you are again claiming.
1900 to now.sex scandal's its 51 rep vs 24 dem.

Look closer at my post, you will see there are two links there. Look at them both. They both indicate that Pritch was indeed wrong in his claim. But seeing as this is obviously too much to ask of you I'll link it again. Once more, I was purely using this to illustrate that Pritch was wrong with his claim.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards...itics/77861810

Again if you case is so strong why do you need to use personal insults

Because I tire easily of your bullshit. And I don't have a high opinion of you.

This is pointless however, you and I will never see eye to eye. I should've kept to my word earlier and stopped entertaining your posts. Now I will. Feel free to have the last word.

[TheDemonLord]

If you have issue with the way I've moderated posts here then please take it to the site admin. See what their opinion is. I'll be very surprised if they feel I've acted with bias or malicious intent.



On a personal level I make no bones about the fact that I do not like you due to the way you have behaved on the forum in the past. Being a moderator doesn't not exclude me from thinking this. And I'm careful to make sure that I moderate with no bias. But lets be honest here, you have deserved every infraction given by myself and any other moderator. Once again if you feel this isn't so take it up with a site admin for clarification.




Look closer at my post, you will see there are two links there. Look at them both. They both indicate that Pritch was indeed wrong in his claim. But seeing as this is obviously too much to ask of you I'll link it again. Once more, I was purely using this to illustrate that Pritch was wrong with his claim.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards...itics/77861810




Because I tire easily of your bullshit. And I don't have a high opinion of you.

This is pointless however, you and I will never see eye to eye. I should've kept to my word earlier and stopped entertaining your posts. Now I will. Feel free to have the last word.

All I'm going to say is this:

When Husa is loosing the argument, he makes a jab at you personally or your status as a moderator and you take the bait.

Don't be tempted to play the Man.

[onearmedbandit]

All I'm going to say is this:

When Husa is loosing the argument, he makes a jab at you personally or your status as a moderator and you take the bait.

Don't be tempted to play the Man.

Yeah you're right. Cheers.

[husaberg]

. And I'm careful to make sure that I moderate with no bias. .

interesting

Everyone's biased. Every. Single. Person.

I'll be very surprised if they feel I've acted with bias or malicious intent.

As would i, but for entirely different reasons as groups that investigate themselves hardly ever find fault with their own peoples actions.
That is why people are expected to declare conflicts of interest and excuse themselves in such situations when there would be a potential conflict of interest . You are of course above such actions of course....
You can claim what you want, but you constantly attempt to claim a claim moral high ground and then openly abuse people on the forum. This is the high point of hypocrisy. But as has been said before it Ashley's site not a democracy.

Look closer at my post, you will see there are two links there. Look at them both. They both indicate that Pritch was indeed wrong in his claim. But seeing as this is obviously too much to ask of you I'll link it again. Once more, I was purely using this to illustrate that Pritch was wrong with his claim.

So when i posted your link was wrong, as its wasn't a even distribution with over the last 40 years was almost a 3 to one repubican number compared to the dems and over 120 years it was 2 -1 and i repeatedly linked the post gave the numbers to show what you had posted did not support your argument.
You now wish to claim that even i never even identified alluded to, or mentioned, or read the link that i never replied to.
That makes everything i have shown that i have replied to in the clear numbers i have shown in your link that did not support what you posted is somehow invalid.
So I was wrong (in your mind) to suggest that the clearly identified link (that you linked), that i clearly responded too, did not anyway support your own argument. ....Wow that's an interesting thought pattern to say the least.

.Because I tire easily of your bullshit. And I don't have a high opinion of you.

This is pointless however, you and I will never see eye to eye. I should've kept to my word earlier and stopped entertaining your posts. Now I will. Feel free to have the last word.

You are an egg Fraser

[pritch]

First nail in the coffin?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...dict-tax-fraud

And for those who don't like the Guardian:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...h=708c706c7e73

[pritch]

Warnock retains his senate seat. Biden becomes the first president since 1934 to not lose a single seat held by his own party.
Biden is a winner. Trump is the world's biggest loser.

[husaberg]

Warnock retains his senate seat. Biden becomes the first president since 1934 to not lose a single seat held by his own party.
Biden is a winner. Trump is the world's biggest loser.

Considering Biden is as old as methuselah
As boring as batshit
plus has about as much charisma as a bowl of mash potato's
Just how shit does that make trump.

[Hoonicorn]

[pritch]

South Park summed it up, to quote from memory, "You only ever get a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich."

[sugilite:Me]

Given the context of what he's responding to (namely the collusion/corruption between the Democrats and Silicon Valley), his point of 'If they aren't going to play by the rules, then neither should we' is not as incendiary as you would like it to be.

So you are ok with dropping the constitution into the toilet because someone not running for president was a naughty boy is justified.
Noted for future reference

To quote Rambo:

"They drew First Blood Sir, not me"

There is a coming reckoning, an equal reaction to the action(s) of the last decade.

OK, so 2 wrongs make a right.....wing nutjob. Noted.
Lets put that reckoning on your wait tab shall we?

Well... Can you find a post from me ridiculing the US Justice system based on the Election results cases? I'm fairly certain my position has always been "I do not have enough evidence to meet the threshold of 'beyond all reasonable doubt'".

In terms of the US justice system working well or being hopelessly corrupt - I mean, I can think of a number of very high profile cases recently where the Left has screeched about it being hopelessly corrupt, whilst trumpeting all the cases being bought (pun intended) against Trump...

Actually I' was talking about you being able to explain away the 90% jailing of black people for drug offenses over white people due to no baby daddies, and you brushing of the shit ton of corrupt judges. Oh yes, according to you the US justice system is all hunky dory, until it does not suit your argument

For my actual perspective - it seems clear to me that there are a number of people in positions of power who have a personal vendetta against Trump, the NYC AG as a textbook example and they are using their position and influence to launch bogus investigations into Trump.

So Trump can publicly say that overvaluing or devaluing company assets is the done thing, and the New York AG should ignore it? Pffft

Just look at the Jan 6th pantomime - no one cares. The viewership ratings are abysmal, all bar one of the Republicans that crossed the floor got Voted out or 'retired' (Jumped instead of pushed) - that's not to say that some people shouldn't be convicted of Vandalism, Criminal damage etc. but the sedition convictions (for example) are naught but Political persecution.

18 million for the final episode, hardly nobody - despite the right wing newsgroups pretending it was not happening, but media suppression is only an issue for TDL when it is the left doing it
http://www.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Far...an-6-hearings&

So there is some corruption and if I give you the most charitable version, there is a baseline of corruption that exists in all systems, where people of overlapping spheres of power and influence interact.

It is my view that what we are seeing is an ideologically driven leveraging of that corruption to the point where it exceeds what is 'acceptable'. And that there will be consequences.

Quite, hence the Trump organization being found guilty on all 12 charges

[sugilite:Me]

I mean, I'll take the quote Hillary committed a Crime?

I believe so yes - she should be held accountable, but in my opinion the US justice system failed, as they have for trumps crimes many times.

It did, didn't it? Even Pritch acknowledged that almost all the polling was pointing that way. Oh well, the states that have gone deep red like Florida will continue to prove the point as to which type of governance people want.

Yep, not the Trump kind - I mean the first government not to lose a senate seat since the 1930's despite inflation, high gas prices and all the other dem and Biden issues you love to spout. That goes to show just how deep in the toilet trump has dragged the GOP. As mentioned, the dems gave them trumps head on a chopping block with impeachment, and they were too cowardly to swing the sword. Now those gutless fuckers are paying the price. Your waiting for dem comeuppance ironically depends on Trump losing the gop nomination for president - aint that hilarious!

And as for polls, yeah they got me again. I was adding on 5 to 7 percentage points to gop nominees due to the 2018 midterm and 2020 polling fuckups. At this point, who would be stupid enough to pay any attention to polls - certainly not me anymore.

Just two comments here:

1: Brilliant line
2: Are you saying you'd be any different?

She would not be my first choice, but probs not ;-)

Maybe, maybe not - there's been a lot of discussion on the Conservative side as to what happened, some more spicy than others. There has been comments about the picking of Candidates being overconfident - e.g. picking a strong candidate to go against a deep blue state, and picking someone like Dr Oz (who I have no particular feeling for) against someone with Brain Damage.

Trump picked a bunch of largely unqualified wackadoodles (to quote one of my American wife's eloquent terms) and paid the price.

This has nothing to do with Maga this or Maga that - this is just an articulation of the Facts, the only thing that ties Fred to being racist is a 1920 arrest. 100 years ago. No one has claimed since he was a raised, the arrest doesn't mention that he was a Klan member and we have to look at it in the context of the times.

If you have other evidence that he was a racist (actual documented evidence) - then by all means.

Fred being trumps father certainly helped shape trumps maga bullshit. Your premise is hilarious, so what - Fred Trump was arrested at a kkk rally he attended after hearing they had a mean as hot cross bun recipe? What you are basically saying is the only reason the boy was accused of getting his hand caught in the cookie jar, was the boys hand being caught in the cookie jar
As for more evidence, there is this....
https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/49595...imination-case

And Trump himself lunching with well known anti-Semites was not a great look

The people who you are insinuating would need to 'be brave' already outright hate Trump and are doing everything they can to smear him - so this line makes zero sense.

The point you consistently miss, is trumps wounds are pretty much 99% self inflicted. What did that top republican donor say? Thats right, trump is needlessly inflammatory".

I'm seeing calls for Trump to step aside and let Ron ascend - especially based on the Midterms - I'd still like a second Trump presidency, if only for the 'Fuck You' value it would provide.

I've since changed my mind after seeing an article saying desanctimonius is not up to taking on trump, and I agreed with the premise. Desanctimonious has a glass jaw as witnessed by him goldfishing for near 20 seconds when asked in a mid term debate if he would see out the governorship term since he was obviously preparing to run for president. One of the few things trump is good at is smacking back immediately, usually with an outlandish lie lol but snap back he does. The fact that sanctimonious did not anticipate that question is gob smacking to my mind. I now believe Trump will down Desantimonious, and go on to lose very, very badly in 24. You should of seen the highest rated fox news user comments on trumps constitution comment, he cleaved off yet another large chunk of independent and maga voters with that clanger. As mentioned, trumps ability for self harm know no bounds.

[TheDemonLord]

So you are ok with dropping the constitution into the toilet because someone not running for president was a naughty boy is justified.
Noted for future reference

Well... What happened at Twitter? Again, allow me to point to the Democrat Congressman saying 'Wait a minute...'

OK, so 2 wrongs make a right.....wing nutjob. Noted.
Lets put that reckoning on your wait tab shall we?

Think of it more like Formula 1 - The other side is cheating already...

Actually I' was talking about you being able to explain away the 90% jailing of black people for drug offenses over white people due to no baby daddies, and you brushing of the shit ton of corrupt judges. Oh yes, according to you the US justice system is all hunky dory, until it does not suit your argument

That's an interesting Stat.

Unfortunately I've heard a different take on it....

Namely Black community leaders, seeing the devastation being wrought in Black Communities by certain types of Drug offending predominant in their community called for tougher sentences. Which the Laws were written for and the Judges adhere to.

So Trump can publicly say that overvaluing or devaluing company assets is the done thing, and the New York AG should ignore it? Pffft

Before I answer this - I have a question:

Do you think he is wrong?

18 million for the final episode, hardly nobody - despite the right wing newsgroups pretending it was not happening, but media suppression is only an issue for TDL when it is the left doing it
http://www.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Far...an-6-hearings&

If I look at Youtube (which is a Global audience) the Jan 6th Live streams have around 1-1.5 Million views - Contrast this with say the Johnny Depp trial, where just the highlights has 13 Million views, just on Youtube.

Bloomberg is behind a paywall, so I can't see how they came to that figure, but what I could see strongly suggests that the 18 million figure is including news segments in primetime news that ran stories on it.

1 vs 13 - and you wonder why I say 'no one cared' - 1 million vs a country of 330 Million.

Quite, hence the Trump organization being found guilty on all 12 charges

But not Trump himself. And what I've read of the charges - suffice to say I'm dubious.

[TheDemonLord]

I believe so yes - she should be held accountable, but in my opinion the US justice system failed, as they have for trumps crimes many times.

Fair

Yep, not the Trump kind - I mean the first government not to lose a senate seat since the 1930's despite inflation, high gas prices and all the other dem and Biden issues you love to spout. That goes to show just how deep in the toilet trump has dragged the GOP. As mentioned, the dems gave them trumps head on a chopping block with impeachment, and they were too cowardly to swing the sword. Now those gutless fuckers are paying the price. Your waiting for dem comeuppance ironically depends on Trump losing the gop nomination for president - aint that hilarious!

And as for polls, yeah they got me again. I was adding on 5 to 7 percentage points to gop nominees due to the 2018 midterm and 2020 polling fuckups. At this point, who would be stupid enough to pay any attention to polls - certainly not me anymore.

I mean, the Polls have been interesting of late - this one was a big surprise admittedly - but I mean case in point - the Oz vs Fettermen race - I have no love for Dr Oz, I think I've made that clear. Fettermen however was clearly mentally compromised from his Stroke. This is not me hating on him, it's admirable for him to try and pull through - however does he support Fracking or not? He's given contradictory answers even if I allow for some translation - but he's an example of 'Vote Blue no matter who'

She would not be my first choice, but probs not ;-)

Exactly.

Trump picked a bunch of largely unqualified wackadoodles (to quote one of my American wife's eloquent terms) and paid the price.

Something that a lot of people have pointed out - Ben Shapiro in particular was very scathing of this.

Fred being trumps father certainly helped shape trumps maga bullshit. Your premise is hilarious, so what - Fred Trump was arrested at a kkk rally he attended after hearing they had a mean as hot cross bun recipe? What you are basically saying is the only reason the boy was accused of getting his hand caught in the cookie jar, was the boys hand being caught in the cookie jar
As for more evidence, there is this....
https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/49595...imination-case

Okay - in his entire life, we only have a singular instance that links Fred with any racial supremecists organizations. The evidence we have does not confirm if he was a part of the Rally, only that he was there. And again, we have to look at that in the context of the 1930s when the Klan was much more socially acceptable. To the point where regular people wouldn't be averse to being in close proximity.

If he was the raging Racist that is being implied - a little more evidence is required.

And Trump himself lunching with well known anti-Semites was not a great look

Yeah... That was Dumb.

The point you consistently miss, is trumps wounds are pretty much 99% self inflicted. What did that top republican donor say? Thats right, trump is needlessly inflammatory".

This is literally the Ben Shapiro position.

I've since changed my mind after seeing an article saying desanctimonius is not up to taking on trump, and I agreed with the premise. Desanctimonious has a glass jaw as witnessed by him goldfishing for near 20 seconds when asked in a mid term debate if he would see out the governorship term since he was obviously preparing to run for president. One of the few things trump is good at is smacking back immediately, usually with an outlandish lie lol but snap back he does. The fact that sanctimonious did not anticipate that question is gob smacking to my mind. I now believe Trump will down Desantimonious, and go on to lose very, very badly in 24. You should of seen the highest rated fox news user comments on trumps constitution comment, he cleaved off yet another large chunk of independent and maga voters with that clanger. As mentioned, trumps ability for self harm know no bounds.

As the details about Twitter are coming to light though - seeing collusion between the Government and Private institutions that violate their own policies is equally galling.

[sugilite:Me]

Fancy a beer?

Yep, though I live 1.5 hours further north now in the city that must not be named - the shame! One bonus is i literally live on one of the very few good roads in the area as the sound of motorbikes going by every few minutes on the weekends atests. So if you do, bring the riding gear with you, the RSV awaits in the garage. Ill take the wife's limited edition zx6r as I'm the only one she will let ride it. Which is very kind of her since she sees how fast the stack of dead tyres grows beside the RSV

[pritch]

TVNZ pissed me off again tonight. Nothing unusual there. The report on the prisoner swap that resulted in the return of Brittney Griner then went on to mention the Republican line that former US Marine Paul Whelan is still imprisoned in Russia. That's true. But Whelan was imprisoned in 2018 during Trump's term. Trump had as about as much time to bring him home as Biden has so far. With the same result.