Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

**TheDemonLord** · 16th March 2023, 18:07

Originally Posted by sugilite

Yes, i remember it took me days of posting to whittle your arguments down to her mother being a opera singer and a highly subjective photo of the thunberg family all wearing antifa tshirts. (likely photoshopped).

Ah, so it's photoshopped now - okay - but still, photographic evidence of their support is not sufficient for you on one hand.

but....

Originally Posted by sugilite

I don't give a shit about the newspaper article you linked to.

Why? It's not some right-wing rag, it's a Centre-Left publication. It gives the clear and concise facts.

I think what you don't give a shit about, is that the publication proves that the level of evidence you'll accept against Trump is the lower than the level of evidence you accuse me of accepting for my claims.

Originally Posted by sugilite

Fred Trump attended a kkk rally and got arrested

We don't know if he attended it.

Remember, the Rally was held where he lived - all we definitively know was that he was arrested and then released without charge.

That, my Dear Sugi, is less evidence than a photograph.

It's especially less when you say the Photograph was 'probably photoshopped'

Originally Posted by sugilite

and then in the 1970's fought a law suit regarding not letting apartments to black folk after getting caught out in a sting operation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...160_story.html

I read the whole article, it was tedious - but one thing jumped out at me - there was no conviction. There was also no explicit tie that this policy came at the behest of either Fred or Donald.

Now, If you want to imply a degree of guilt based on a probability that such a policy came from the top (and not the more likely artifact of life in the late 60s/early 70s) - sure, okay - I'll let that slide....

On one condition though...

That you accept the same standard of evidence of Probability when it comes to Greta.

And considering in the 93 years of Fred Trump's life you only have 2 incidents, one in the 1920s and one in the 70s, whereas with Greta, I can point to multiple incidents in her short life, I don't think the balance of probability is going to be in your favor.

**pritch** · 17th March 2023, 09:20

Beginning of the end of Trump's Truth Social?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVIbCvfkO3E

**pritch** · 17th March 2023, 10:10

And so it continues...

**FJRider** · 17th March 2023, 14:00

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

I mean, I never met him or her, so I can't say for certain - however the living as a Man in private life does tend to point strongly to what we would now call Gender Dysphoria. Keeping this up all the way till after Death does also suggest that (to use todays parlance) 'Self-Identified as a Man'.

Unless you can come up with a documented account of HER story ... from her or someone she worked with (or knew her AWAY from her WORK life) ... you cannot claim she "Self Identified" as a man.

To back up your claim her as "Self identifying as a Man" ... please post another account that gives her story of her ... in her private HOME life.

I'm betting you cannot.

**TheDemonLord** · 17th March 2023, 18:58

Originally Posted by FJRider

Unless you can come up with a documented account of HER story ... from her or someone she worked with (or knew her AWAY from her WORK life) ... you cannot claim she "Self Identified" as a man.

I'm going off the Wikipedia article.

I think there's a pretty coherent argument to be made that if she was posing as a Man purely to pursue her career, then, as per the Wikipedia article, the requirement to act as a Man in her Private life isn't required.

That she appeared to do so tends to suggest she considered herself as Male.

I'll grant you the evidence about the private life (even when looking at the citations in Wikipedia) is a bit scant, but consider that this was only 'discovered' due to a post-mortem again lends itself to her assuming an entirely male identity.

Originally Posted by FJRider

To back up your claim her as "Self identifying as a Man" ... please post another account that gives her story of her ... in her private HOME life.

I'm betting you cannot.

Again, I'm deferring to Wikipedia.

**pritch** · 18th March 2023, 10:49

It feels as if we've been here before - but we haven't. This could be a historic first. It is reported that law enforcement agencies are coordinating arrangements in anticipation of an announcement from the Manhattan DA next week that Trump is to be indicted. The Trump campaign has issued a "statement." Well, it's just another rant really.

The normal procedure would be for the New York Governor to contact the Florida Governor asking for the person facing charges to be delivered to New York. How that will go is anybody's guess. These procedures, and there are alternatives, are performed all the time, although never with a former president.

**Laava** · 18th March 2023, 11:01

Steven Cheung sounds just like Mottled Chump, in fact, I bet he was just dictated what to say. By the would be dictator.

**onearmedbandit** · 18th March 2023, 12:56

Originally Posted by Laava

Steven Cheung sounds just like Mottled Chump, in fact, I bet he was just dictated what to say. By the would be dictator.

Just curious (and I have no love for any politician), how is Trump a 'would be dictator'?

**F5 Dave** · 18th March 2023, 13:03

So, if in your mind as a politician you decide to get your mob on when you dont like the election results, if, and clearly those muppets weren't going to achieve a national coup, but if they did, that would not make you an elected leader. Kinda makes you something else. Choose a word.

**onearmedbandit** · 18th March 2023, 13:25

In that scenario then I guess the term 'would be dictator' is appropriate.

**husaberg** · 18th March 2023, 13:27

**Laava** · 18th March 2023, 14:03

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Just curious (and I have no love for any politician), how is Trump a 'would be dictator'?

When he was first in power he louded his thoughts on president for life. Not long after that he louded again about getting his moosh carved into Rushmore. Was he serious or was it a light hearted comment? He doesn't seem the type to do genuine light hearted comments.
Some of the comments on this video are interesting…
https://youtu.be/5LFX7RY5Gug

**TheDemonLord** · 18th March 2023, 14:37

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

So, if in your mind as a politician you decide to get your mob on when you dont like the election results, if, and clearly those muppets weren't going to achieve a national coup, but if they did, that would not make you an elected leader. Kinda makes you something else. Choose a word.

The Right Wing Mob that tried to overthrow their Government in America....

Who all happened to forget to bring their guns....

Sounds legit.

**pritch** · 18th March 2023, 15:00

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

The Right Wing Mob that tried to overthrow their Government in America....

Who all happened to forget to bring their guns....

Sounds legit.

You must be the last person in the world who believes there were no guns. The militia arseholes had major caches nearby. The others with guns in and around the crowd have already been discussed. Then there were all the people who wouldn't go through the metal detectors and Trump's shouted instructions to remove the metal detectors. "They aren't here to hurt me."

It is acknowledged by the people who know about such things as a coup attempt. Specifically a "self coup." Google it.

Trump constantly praised totalitarian leaders: Orban. Erdogan, Kim Jong Un, and last but definitely not least Putin.

**TheDemonLord** · 18th March 2023, 16:16

Originally Posted by pritch

You must be the last person in the world who believes there were no guns. The militia arseholes had major caches nearby. The others with guns in and around the crowd have already been discussed. Then there were all the people who wouldn't go through the metal detectors and Trump's shouted instructions to remove the metal detectors. "They aren't here to hurt me."

Sure - if you could just pictures of the crowd with significant numbers of long guns/rifles - then I'll concede.

But last time we did this - the best you came up with was some really grainy footage that was inconclusive.

Now, I'm sure some people were concealed Carrying.

But again, this is the 2A loving Republicans who believe that 'The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed' - and all of them seem to have left them at home.

And your 'Major cache' - I've seen more ordinance in a Kiwi drug bust.

It's pathetic.

Just so we are clear - this is my Baseline for America:

Originally Posted by pritch

It is acknowledged by the people who know about such things as a coup attempt. Specifically a "self coup." Google it.

Yes, last time you posted by such people - all of them were raving leftists who might have a teensy-weensy bit of bias.

Which means I don't think their assessment of the situation is neutral.

Originally Posted by pritch

Trump constantly praised totalitarian leaders: Orban. Erdogan, Kim Jong Un, and last but definitely not least Putin.

Perhaps - some of those are tenuous, however when Biden is quoting Mao - I'd be keeping quiet on that front.