Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[pete376403]

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[Pursang]

[sugilite:Me]

The $10,000 state and local tax deduction cap, introduced by Trump, affected the wealthy more so than middle class.

Link: https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/s...e-county-2022/

It’s pretty simple.

Holy shit Dean, links!
I did a background search on taxfoundation.org and found that what they report has an approximately 50% truth rate, which by current standards, is actually pretty good. So thanks for that.

You may have missed that a project 2025 leader was secretly recorded and yeah, trump was not only aware of it, but actually gave it and their policies his blessing.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...ret-recording/
Scarily they already have hundreds of Presidential executive orders all lined up for trump to sign from day one.
Dean, the last thing these guys are interested in is making life good for middle class workers, in fact they will absolutely be looking to transfer what little wealth they still have from the middle class to their own pockets.
They even want to ban pornography, so the poor americans cannot even have a decent wank to take their minds of all their rights that project 2025 will strip away if they get a chance.

So once again, trump has been caught blatantly barefaced lying about really important things - things that every american voter should be informed of before voting starts.

Now, I have just had a look at both yours and kbdopes KB profiles, and with myself being naturally gifted with incredible powers of observation, I could not help but notice that you guys have the exact same background in your profile photos - very, very suspicious mate. Hmmmmmmm

[husaberg]

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[Kb2020dope]

Is this girl in the room with you now? I haven't seen Sugilite referencing any girls little or otherwise.

Hey bud,

No.
I have seen it. I'm not sure if he's attracted to young females or if hes potentially fantasising about being a little girl. Either way as a lefty I trust you will support him.

It is probably quite large, after all there's one born every minute. Although it may not be as big as you think, even allowing for all the gerrymandering.

We shall see on the big day. Come over for a BBQ bud

[Kb2020dope]

No prob


OK, I dumb down 4 u - though I ask, how u deal with hard bible - may be trump bible for sun day school kids?



Get help for broke mind - seek help with addicts group - great place to meet priests and swap notes.





I have 2 ask u. How you like weird man who have hots for own childs and tells whole World?






Oh, u no want to talk bout trump? U in wrong thread.

Thank u
Have good day.

Brother,

You are more organised. I'm impressed! However, you are still not making sense.

You are talking about school kids, addicts and priests.

I now understand why you guys don't normal people posting on your little trump thread. You want to chat about kids, addicts and priests in peace.

Please get help or remove yourself from kiwi biker.

[Dean]

Holy shit Dean, links!
I did a background search on taxfoundation.org and found that what they report has an approximately 50% truth rate, which by current standards, is actually pretty good. So thanks for that.

Links aside, one just exercises common sense - the property tax is based on the value of the home.

People with high value homes pay more property tax.

People with high value homes (above the average percentile) tend to be upper class.

State tax is based off taxable income, the more income you make in high paying jobs (not entrepreneurs or business owners) the higher you pay.

People with high incomes tend to be considered as “upper class”.

If you have multiple properties - it compounds.

Therefore to cap tax benefits at 10k - means the upper class are punished by their success.

You may have missed that a project 2025 leader was secretly recorded and yeah, trump was not only aware of it, but actually gave it and their policies his blessing.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...ret-recording/
Scarily they already have hundreds of Presidential executive orders all lined up for trump to sign from day one.
Dean, the last thing these guys are interested in is making life good for middle class workers, in fact they will absolutely be looking to transfer what little wealth they still have from the middle class to their own pockets.
They even want to ban pornography, so the poor americans cannot even have a decent wank to take their minds of all their rights that project 2025 will strip away if they get a chance.

So once again, trump has been caught blatantly barefaced lying about really important things - things that every american voter should be informed of before voting starts.

Now, I have just had a look at both yours and kbdopes KB profiles, and with myself being naturally gifted with incredible powers of observation, I could not help but notice that you guys have the exact same background in your profile photos - very, very suspicious mate. Hmmmmmmm

If that were true, then why are the upper class being punished with a cap on property tax benefits, a cap of 10k that separates the middle class (within their range) from the upper class (typically exceed that).

So let’s recap - it was stated in this thread that trump had committed x amount of lies.

I followed that link and the second foundational “lie” was that trumps tax cut was not the largest in US history. And that it was destroying the middle class.

Both of which I have debunked and have provided analysis, logic and evidence.
Yet still to this day - crickets.

So here I am again at the crux of the issue - if Trump is a liar, let’s break down each scenario and use logic, data and common sense to address it.

Void of emotion and personal disgust.

Once I peel back the shiny layers I tend to find rotten fruit.

[Dean]

Now, I have just had a look at both yours and kbdopes KB profiles, and with myself being naturally gifted with incredible powers of observation, I could not help but notice that you guys have the exact same background in your profile photos - very, very suspicious mate. Hmmmmmmm

I want to preface my response firstly by saying I have respect for you based on how you have dealt with me in the past. And therefore I respect your opinion.

But this conspiracy about me and KB2020 is very unnecessary.

A moderator has confirmed there is no proof of multiple accounts.

In fact, KB2020 has put up a post in the meetings and events sub forum for people to join me and him - coro loop next weekend.

People are welcome to say hello and we are friendly people despite how we are perceived to come across on here.

[Dean]

Not close to reality that's just joke status. There is a huge amount of evidence available of Trump's lies to anyone who is interested. It's a mystery to me how you've missed it. All of the experts involved, multiple recounts, sixty odd court cases, and the officials who ran the election, say there was no significant fraud. Trump said before the election that he wouldn't accept the result if it went against him. He still hasn't conceded.

Trump lies about everything. It's safer to assume he is lying than to believe anything he says and that was before the onset of his rapid mental deterioration. Bearing in mind that he was not very bright to start with.

One from the way back stack relating to his character that may be news to you. When Trump applied for a casino licence in Australia it was declined because of his mob connections.

I think you’re forgetting that we have some common ground, I have admitted that Trump has lied in the past and that I don’t encourage that behaviour.

I also acknowledged that the courts have come to a decision and I accept that.

Whilst I also acknowledge that none of us are perfect, including that none of us have or will ever be in a position of responsibility & pressure that Trump is subjected to.

Or be party to information from advisors and party members who may have views on the fairness of the election system.

The crux of where we don’t align lies in the perception of if Trump genuinely felt a grievance to a process or result. Which people do feel that way about some things, they’re entitled to a right to petition and it happens all across the world.

Or if he did it with malicious intent - if he didn’t actually believe that, but stated it untruthfully.

So provide me proof that shows he was the latter - fair enough?

Now your off handed comment about Trump and mob ties is just nonsensical.

The mafia were and always are ingrained into the vertical construction industry in the USA.

https://www.history.com/news/how-maf...n-labor-unions

With declared members and/or connections in and/or running the workers unions spanning from the 70’s to present.

You couldn’t build a sky scraper in Manhattan without having any of their businesses involved (they ran the union, concrete plants, quarries, contractor outfits, crane hires etc!).

[Kb2020dope]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey champ,

I see you enjoy your research. Now, this is what us folk under the age of 45 call banter.

I am deep concerned that you are spending your friday night looking at my posts from 4 years ago. I think this link may be helpful to you.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle...USJPBVIUBASL4/

All the best on your potential new hobbies bud.

[Pursang]

links aside, one just exercises common sense - the property tax is based on the value of the home.

people with high value homes pay more property tax.

People with high value homes purchase them in full knowledge of the property tax involved.

people with high value homes (above the average percentile) tend to be upper class.

The concept of an "upper class" is rather archaic (particularly outside of Britain). let's just say they tend to be wealthy.

state tax is based off taxable income, the more income you make in high paying jobs (not entrepreneurs or business owners) the higher you pay.

Yes, entrepreneurs and business owners have infinitely many more options to minimize taxable income, than salary workers. Your point?

people with high incomes tend to be considered as “upper class”. Let's just say they tend to be wealthy.

if you have multiple properties - it compounds.

No it just adds! + smart wealthy people/families also have access to trust and corporate structures to maximize deductions and minimize or transfer net profits.
Combining property holdings in multiple units allows the ability to balance income production with those sweet, sweet capital gains.
Significant capital assets and a self funding income source allows obtaining loans at well below the std. bank retail interest rates. Average working people have no access to these.

therefore to cap tax benefits at 10k - means the upper class are punished by their success.

Personal choices + the user pays (i believe this is a fiscal conservative mantra)....oh! The poor, poor bastards! (see above)

if that were true, then why are the upper class (wealthy) being punished with a cap on property tax benefits, a cap of 10k that separates the middle class (within their range) from the upper class (typically exceed that).

As explained above, those who choose higher value properties, do so (or at least should be expected to) of their own free will, in the knowledge that that choice has higher operational costs! Don't forget the gardener.
Warren Buffet, an extraordinarily wealthy person, chooses to live in a modest home and claim the appropriate tax benefit for it!

so let’s recap - it was stated in this thread that trump had committed x amount of lies.
I followed that link and the second foundational "lies” was that trumps tax cut was not the largest in us history. And that it was destroying the middle class.

Trump personally claimed (of course) that his tax cut was the Largest Ever. "by comparison to the largest historical tax cuts, the 2017 tax cuts and jobs act (tcja) enacted under trump ranks as the 10th largest tax cut since 1940"
https://taxfoundation.org/blog/large...tax-proposals/
"president trump cut the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 21 percent, the largest percentage point reduction of the top marginal rate in history".
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...rican-history/

The $8.4 trillion that trump added to the federal debt has a significant and ongoing contribution to inflation, that is claimed by MAGAts to be one of the biglyist problems in the USA today.OOPS! now down to 2.9%

so here i am again at the crux of the issue - if trump is a liar, let’s break down each scenario and use logic, data and common sense to address it. Void of emotion and personal disgust.

US N.P.R. Did a postmortem fact check on trump's Mar a Lago press thing. They found 162 errors (lies) committed in 62 minutes, more than one lie in each 30 seconds.
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/11/nx-s1...ews-conference

once i peel back the shiny layers i tend to find rotten fruit.

So do I, so do I!

[pritch]

Trump has submitted the statement of his financial affairs as required for a presidential candidate. Surprise! It overvalues his assets and undervalues his liabilities. He could get new fraud charges added to those he's already been found guilty of.

Not all of those reporting have noticed the detail. He owes near $100 million from his defamation cases but he lists only the amount of the bond. Similarly the half billion he owes NY as a result of the fraud case there. Again he lists the amount of the bond not the amount of the judgement.

His income from the sale of bibles and his FTs is unbelievable. Literally.

We may have to wait for reports from the more inquisitive financial journalists. The major papers so far appear to be unquestioningly reporting what he claims.

[sugilite:Me]

Brother,

You are more organised. I'm impressed! However, you are still not making sense.

You are talking about school kids, addicts and priests.

I now understand why you guys don't normal people posting on your little trump thread. You want to chat about kids, addicts and priests in peace.

Please get help or remove yourself from kiwi biker.

U avoid trump video where he lust own kids - trump own words - no media slant. yet pic of girl blow bubble - u blush - u strange maga.

U like put word in sugi mouth - hope u not want to put other thing in sugi mouth. Seek help dope must.
Good luck to dope.

[TheDemonLord]

A very fair analysis.

For what it is worth, I disagree with Ryan McBeth on some aspects (he did a series on the twitter account End Wokeness, which suffice to say I had some issues with his perspective on things) - but for all my disagreements with him - he is very much not partisan.