Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[pritch]

Kamala Harris' father is from Jamaica. How did black people get to Jamaica? Oh thats's right, slaves from Africa. "The Spaniards also introduced the first African slaves into the island. By the early 17th century, when most of the Taino had died out, the population of the island was about 3,000, including a small number of African slaves." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jamaica

Exactly. As I have pointed out previously the difference between an African American and a Jamaican was just a few degrees on the compass of a slave ship.

[husaberg]

[Laava]

And expressed as DNA….

[1/32 man]

Yet, you still think that Trump was terrible for Covid and Biden was great. Why is that?

Eerrr.....how do you know that is what I think. Maaate, you are assuming way too much.

From that I could assume that you are a drumper.... er trumpfer..... er orange person supporter. Couldn't I?

I didn't hear Biden suggest that injecting bleach was a good idea. Trump shits his pants and is an adderall addict so how would he know what is good for the health of the people.

[nerrrd]

I grant you it is not an entirely apples and apples comparison, as Biden had the benefit of the Vaccine that Trump helped develop. But the point remains from Feb-Jan, Trump had ~400K deaths and from Jan to September, Biden had ~600K deaths.

I put it to you that the President had very little impact on Covid.

President Trump deserves credit for fast tracking the development of the vaccines. Infectious diseases spread, though, and the longer it's out there, the more people catch it. The numbers will always be lowest at the beginning of a pandemic, vaccine or not.

[sugilite:Me]

A lot of Trump news today - none of it good for trump.

Two top people in trumps foreign policy say Afghanistan pullout mess largely attributed to trump. Who knew blocking the current government and directly dealing with a terrorist regime and releasing 5000 of said regimes worst was a bad thing. Yet more ignorant trumpfuckery.



More than two hundred former staff from Bush, McCain and Romney endorse Harris because they view trump as a direct threat to democracy. Yet we have 3 blind mice in this thread that think the gop still exists!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ove...mply-untenable

And trump has picked up a new indictment designed to skirt around the corrupt supreme courts ruling of crimes are all good for presidents to commit.


Traditionally trump gets a polling bump when he picks up another indictment, so it will be very interesting to see what happens this time.
trump is the master of the delay, but i largely point the finger at soft cock merrick garland for not having a spine and going soft on criminal trump lest he upset some people. justice delayed is justice denied.

[F5 Dave]

Kamala Harris' father is from Jamaica. How did black people get to Jamaica? Oh thats's right, slaves from Africa. "The Spaniards also introduced the first African slaves into the island. By the early 17th century, when most of the Taino had died out, the population of the island was about 3,000, including a small number of African slaves." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jamaica

Oh don't be so harsh. At least the Spanish were spreading the Good News and Redemption of Jesus.
Those other things just happened.
Amen and Halli-ewe-eja

[TheDemonLord]

Kamala Harris' father is from Jamaica. How did black people get to Jamaica? Oh thats's right, slaves from Africa. "The Spaniards also introduced the first African slaves into the island. By the early 17th century, when most of the Taino had died out, the population of the island was about 3,000, including a small number of African slaves." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jamaica

Tell that to the African American population.

Again - I don't like Racial Politics. I am merely repeating what I have heard African Americans say.

[TheDemonLord]

You placed yourself there sport, putting words in my mouth to make a point is weak. All the rest is yet more subjective waffle.

The argument you are making hinges on Fox being both a leader in Right Wing thought and a wholly Right Wing outlet. Given their market reach and (for example) the way they split with Tucker Carlson (again, not a huge fan) - I say that those hinges are rusty and fragile.

I'm sorry you consider me holding you to your words is inconvenient for you. You think finding an additional video with one single person (who still does not seem upset by it as you per your original quote) is adding anything to the discussion - must be a very tiny subset huh. trump has given up on it, maybe you should too.

Two separate and completely disparate groups (apart from Skin Colour) both expressing the same sentiment and yet somehow that is not enough to prove the sentiment exists.

Must I interview every African American and then post a percentage. You asked for proof that people think that - I have given two separate instances.

So you think dumbarse pitching that to a room for of educated black journalists was a good idea?

The Woke university indoctrinated journalists who would never vote for Trump in a million years, even if he offered them a night with Ivanka... Those journalists?

Perhaps he was speaking to another demographic. The Demographic of African Americans who feel taking-for-granted by the Democrat party and feel annoyed that they are pandered to and spoke down to by Woke Liberal Women.

So yes, I do think it was a good idea - because it gets Black voters talking about Trump - and there is a subset who will identify with that comment.

You appear to be miffed the dems are doing what looks for all the world to me like good marketing.

That is one viewpoint, another is that they are trying to prop up a puppet as legitimate. If she was so credible and such the obvious choice, surely she should be able to stand on her own merits.

A refresher yet again - your exact words "I have heard commentary from African Americans that they really don't like it when people who aren't fully black, playing the black card."
Big statements should require big evidence, not my fault you picked a subject that you cannot back your big statement up with anything meaningful.

I have given you two interviews, one with multiple people, expressing that sentiment. To say it does not exist (when it plainly does) is not factual. Now, you could dispute how far and wide that sentiment exists - that would at least be fair.

Here is another few quotes, from This Politico article in 2019:

That led to wide concern on the ground in key states like South Carolina that black candidates were not authentic enough in their petitions for black support.

A Lack of Authenticity around ones appeal based on Ethnicity. Or to put it more crudely: She Aint Black.

This subject is way too big and time consuming for me to research and give you an informed decision that I could stand by.

Okay - let me say this then: If you need to do that level of analysis to answer, then I get to say that the difference between all of them is minimal at best, with no clear winner.

Even if you feel Trump is the worst of all 3, that it is not by a significant margin - which goes a long way to disprove the claim of incompetence.

[Laava]

Those other things just happened.

No one was expecting that…

[husaberg]

[Pursang]

....even if he offered them a night with Ivanka...

That seems to perfectly fit his profile and previous form!

[F5 Dave]

No one was expecting that…

Nice. . . Can't give rep to Laava until blah blah.

[pritch]

So Trump fucked up again. Another day, another photo op, his time at Arlington National Cemetery. He arrived for one of his stupidly inappropriate grinning, thumb up, photographs over the grave of a recent casualty of one of America's wars. Problem was that no photographs are permitted in this part of the cemetery, Section 60, unless taken by cemetery staff. This led to a verbal and allegedly physical confrontation between Trump campaign officials and Arlington staff before the Trump team took their photos. This is completely illegal and thus yet another Trump crime for which he probably will not be charged. We can but hope.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgwnn11x18o

[sugilite:Me]

The argument you are making hinges on Fox being both a leader in Right Wing thought and a wholly Right Wing outlet.

I welcome you showing me a larger right wing media organization then?

I have given you two interviews, one with multiple people, expressing that sentiment. To say it does not exist (when it plainly does) is not factual. Now, you could dispute how far and wide that sentiment exists - that would at least be fair.

Fair?, mate, you are yet to show me anything showing support for your ""I have heard commentary from African Americans that they really don't like it when people who aren't fully black, playing the black card." Statement. Perhaps instead of whining, how about stumping up?

So yes, I do think it was a good idea - because it gets Black voters talking about Trump - and there is a subset who will identify with that comment.

Message well received - congratulations ex president trump

That is one viewpoint, another is that they are trying to prop up a puppet as legitimate. If she was so credible and such the obvious choice, surely she should be able to stand on her own merits.

Her momentum is very impressive, looks like her campaign is making great decisions.

Okay - let me say this then: If you need to do that level of analysis to answer, then I get to say that the difference between all of them is minimal at best, with no clear winner.
Even if you feel Trump is the worst of all 3, that it is not by a significant margin - which goes a long way to disprove the claim of incompetence.

Sorry to call you back from your self appointed victory lap old chap, but these TWO HUNDRED grizzled experienced republican Alumni with all their inside experience of trump just explained much better than I why trump is not just a shit president but why he is also a direct threat to democracy.
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...rris-statement



If course if this is not enough proof for you, I could always search for something more robust, like a group of dems in a barber shop saying trump is shit?