Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[onearmedbandit]

Certain posts have been pruned from this thread. Although TDL has made it clear to the mods he doesn't worry about the comments I have made it clear that personal attacks are not welcome.

[TheDemonLord]

But the Obamas speaking fees are paid, so some think they are worth listening to. And they also do freebies, and provide other benefits as below. Trumps largesse was more along the lines of throwing paper towels (paid for by someone else) at Puerto Ricans
“Since leaving office, President Obama has spent his time doing public and private events, both paid and unpaid, that are true to his values and his record,” Kevin Lewis, the former president’s spokesman, wrote in an email. Mr. Lewis added that the paid speeches had helped make it possible for Mr. Obama to contribute $2 million to employment and job-training programs for low-income young people in Chicago. "https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/business/obama-healthcare-speech.html

And?

Promotional interview or not - the point was that this Melanias fees for an interview are not outrageous or unreasonable as some would suggest.

I am also certain that like the Obamas - Melania probably does pro bono work for causes she is interested in.

The point is: The Trump do something - everyones response is to wail and gnash at how terrible it is.
The Obamas do the exact same thing - everyone claps and barks like a circus seal at how wonderful it is.

[TheDemonLord]

Certain posts have been pruned from this thread. Although TDL has made it clear to the mods he doesn't worry about the comments I have made it clear that personal attacks are not welcome.

I thought at least one of them was hilarious.

[pritch]

And?

Promotional interview or not - the point was that this Melanias fees for an interview are not outrageous or unreasonable as some would suggest.

That a fee was requested at all is totally unreasonable. The request was withdrawn as soon as it became public.


Anyhoo - FOX is reporting that the prosecution of Trump for the events of Jan 6 and various other attempts to overthrow the lawfully elected government is illegal. They say there is a law preventing prosecutions of candidates within sixty days of an election and that this prosecution is blatant election interference. That's all bollox of course.

There is a "guideline" to that effect but this particular prosecution began years ago. The reason it is current now is because Trump's team has sought delay after delay after delay.
That - and quite possibly they have managed to piss off the judge?

[R650R]

And?

Promotional interview or not - the point was that this Melanias fees for an interview are not outrageous or unreasonable as some would suggest.

I am also certain that like the Obamas - Melania probably does pro bono work for causes she is interested in.

The point is: The Trump do something - everyones response is to wail and gnash at how terrible it is.
The Obamas do the exact same thing - everyone claps and barks like a circus seal at how wonderful it is.

The beauty of it all is the level of those fees tells you there is an audience that WANTS to hear that person speak no matter who it is. And even better is the power is confirmed by the advertising dollars that firms are will to spend to buy exposure during that time slot otherwise it would not be possible to pay.
And who endorses that even further it’s us all of us, this is us as we buy the products advertised during these shows.
People are just always envious of success. It’s like the big deal about Luxon selling a house for a profit, isn’t that the kiwi dream that when you retire that asset has increased so you can downsize, live well and help rest of your family. Some lucky people just manage to do it better than others.
I don’t see any news articles about anyone from the other side deciding to sell property at a loss at any time to help boost housing availability.

[TheDemonLord]

That a fee was requested at all is totally unreasonable. The request was withdrawn as soon as it became public.

Why?

Or does CNN think that they, and they alone, can pay in 'Exposure'.

[pritch]

The beauty of it all is the level of those fees tells you there is an audience that WANTS to hear that person speak no matter who it is.

Not really. As always with the Trumps there is likely to be a grift. The group Melania most recently spoke to was a Republican Party LBGT group. While it is common for the spouses of politicians to speak at political events they are not normally paid. There is interest in who paid the $200,000 plus, what with Lara Trump having a big say in where the RNC money goes and her father in law having a big say with her.

[pritch]

Why?

Because it should never have been made and they knew it.

[pritch]

Speaking of grifts. This guy must be chasing a seat in Trump's next cabinet. He wants to spend millions of dollars of tax payer money on Trump bibles to put one in every Oklahoma classroom. So much for the separation of church and state?

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/04/p...ump/index.html

[pete376403]

And?

I am also certain that like the Obamas - Melania probably does pro bono work for causes she is interested in.

The point is: The Trump do something - everyones response is to wail and gnash at how terrible it is.
The Obamas do the exact same thing - everyone claps and barks like a circus seal at how wonderful it is.

search on "melania trump pro bono appearances" doesn't return anything of substance, yet if she had, there would be no shortage of maga/repub pages lauding it.
Trump himself does nothing for that isn't designed to benefit himself politically or financially

[TheDemonLord]

Because it should never have been made and they knew it.

That does not answer the question.

This is about Audience and return on investment. Given CNNs typical audience, it is unlikely that a promotional interview will have any significant impact on the sale of her book. Therefore being asked to be paid for her time is entirely reasonable.

It is like the old Tradies trick of giving a ridiculous quote for work they don't want to do. And the figure quoted, when compared to other comparable people is not absurd.

[F5 Dave]

Speaking of grifts. This guy must be chasing a seat in Trump's next cabinet. He wants to spend millions of dollars of tax payer money on Trump bibles to put one in every Oklahoma classroom. So much for the separation of church and state?

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/04/p...ump/index.html

"The RFP from superintendent Ryan Walters is part of his ongoing push to put Bibles in every classroom. He has said that “every teacher, every classroom in the state will have a Bible in the classroom and will be teaching from the Bible in the classroom.”"

What? As a work of fiction?
Today children, we are going to look at how many times the Bible has been changed to suit the rulers, or ethnicity of the target 'marks' it is aimed at.

[TheDemonLord]

search on "melania trump pro bono appearances" doesn't return anything of substance

Neither does Michelle Obama Pro bono Appearances.

yet if she had, there would be no shortage of maga/repub pages lauding it.
Trump himself does nothing for that isn't designed to benefit himself politically or financially

Would there - I will be honest, I care about Melania about as much as I care about Michelle Obama or Jill Biden. Which is, suffice to say, not a lot.

I would wager that most right-leaning people feel much the same way - they are not the person in the driving seat, so they are not a big consideration.

Personally, I find some of the fawning over First ladies nauseating - but that is just me. Before anyone asks - I had to google who Douglas Emhoff was - so this is not a gendered issue.

As for the last line - there is a whole host of individual anecdotes of people meeting Trump - many of which before he became President - outside of official functions or engagements - where (apparently) he is quite generous. IIRC there is an entire Reddit thread dedicated to people sharing their experiences of the Man.

And Reddit is known for having a left-wing bias.

[Dean]

This is about Audience and return on investment. Given CNNs typical audience, it is unlikely that a promotional interview will have any significant impact on the sale of her book. Therefore being asked to be paid for her time is entirely reasonable.

It is like the old Tradies trick of giving a ridiculous quote for work they don't want to do. And the figure quoted, when compared to other comparable people is not absurd.

Exactly, she is a businesswoman, high rates for jobs you don’t need or necessarily want because of the forecasted poor return.

What we’re witnessing here is the left CNN desperate for a headline on the Trump family to get clicks.

And guess what - the interview never happened…life goes on!

[pritch]

That does not answer the question.

This is about Audience and return on investment. Given CNNs typical audience, it is unlikely that a promotional interview will have any significant impact on the sale of her book. Therefore being asked to be paid for her time is entirely reasonable.

It is like the old Tradies trick of giving a ridiculous quote for work they don't want to do. And the figure quoted, when compared to other comparable people is not absurd.

CNN's typical audience? Wherever you have been you weren't paying attention. CNN is now controlled by a right wing nut job and he decided he'd like to poach audience share from FOX "News". He accordingly placed RWNJ sycophants in key positions. This happened long enough ago that one of his key appointees has since been fired. Anyway the consequence is that CNN has been shedding viewers in large numbers. CNN ain't what it used to be.