Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[pritch]

Well, I got that wrong. First US commentator I checked this morning started out, "We are a stupid country."
No argument from me. Think I'll go for a ride.

[sugilite:Me]

....I'm waiting. Still looking like trump has won! What do you think?

I think dope has forgotten, voters don't choose presidents, because according to trump - vice presidents do! I thank god that current vice president and now president elect kamala will have the courage to do what vice president pence did not! I invite all dems to come down to the capital on Jan 6th, it will be a riot!

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[TheDemonLord]

I think dope has forgotten, voters don't choose presidents, because according to trump - vice presidents do! I thank god that current vice president and now president elect kamala will have the courage to do what vice president pence did not! I invite all dems to come down to the capital on Jan 6th, it will be a riot!

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Maybe they might remember to bring their guns...

But then, they are terrible marksmen....

[sugilite:Me]

Maybe they might remember to bring their guns...

But then, they are terrible marksmen....

What are you talking about? it will be a fight, fight, fight fight, fight, fight fight, fight, fight fight, fight, fight fight, fight, fight, peaceful love in, like a group of tourists feeling the love taking in the views, just like the last Jan 6th certificates celebration ;-p

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[Pursang]

[onearmedbandit]

I guess a woman of colour was a reach too far.

Are you suggesting that's the reason she lost? A lot of polls were showing dissatisfaction with the last 4yrs of government. Or is it just racism and sexism?

[TheDemonLord]

Are you suggesting that's the reason she lost? A lot of polls were showing dissatisfaction with the last 4yrs of government. Or is it just racism and sexism?

One emerging demographic that is interesting is apparently the Amish are largely responsible for swinging Pensylvania.

The Democrats wanted to interfere with their Farms and way of life.
The Amish just want to be left alone to live their lives as they see fit.

[TheDemonLord]

Okay - last Gloating post from me.


TONIGHT WE RIDE

[nerrrd]

I don't think gender or race are the determining factors here, or at least not in any significant numbers.

I think the problem is the numbers who have been economically disadvantaged by the current push towards globalisation and free trade over the last 40 years have grown large enough in the US to make a difference now in the general electorate.

I don't see how tariffs and deportations will solve that, but at least both are an acknowledgement of the situation these people are in and therefore preferable to sticking with the status quo, which I think is what Harris represents (regardless of any policy changes she might have suggested).

I also don't see why 'billionaire' businessmen such as Trump, Musk etc, who have been the main beneficiaries of the growth in the global economy over the same period, are suddenly going to give that up to create well paid factory jobs in the US. But what do I know.

I also wonder if the human and financial cost of being the world's de facto police force is not something the general US citizenry are prepared to pay anymore. Again, I'm not sure why they think millionaires and billionaires who are probably heavily invested in the military industrial complex are going to change that, but time will tell.

Edit: I suspect there will be a fair bit of Schadenfreude today in the Biden and Clinton households.

[Berries]

apparently the Amish are largely responsible for swinging Pensylvania..

How does that work with no car keys to go in the bowl?

[sugilite:Me]

Frigging amish did it eh. They need to be bombed back into the horse and buggy days

[Laava]

So if Trump drops dead, and let's face it, that could happen, he is old and obese, then DJ Vance will be the US of Putins first homosexual president?

[pritch]

Or is it just racism and sexism?

Pretty much.

[neels]

I wonder how many more votes are still to come in.

With the numbers so far Trump won not because more voted for him, in fact 2 million less than last time, but a huge number less voted against him.

Was the 2020 outcome a reaction to the shitfight that was the US Covid response? Is their inability to combat the subsequent worldwide inflation and cost of living crisis, and the associated massive business profits at the expense of the average person, the reason they are now out on their arse?

Or was voting for someone coloured and female just a step too far, I remember talking to americans before the 2016 election who would never vote republican but also refused to vote for Hilary, so just weren't voting at all.

Regardless, best of luck to them for the next four years.

[onearmedbandit]

Pretty much.

There must be a lot of confused women and blacks in America right now then...