Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[TheDemonLord]

This part of your post is a damming indictment on New Zealands education system. New Zealand is not the 51st state of the USA.
No amount of Saturday beersies is going to change that!
My wife, born in the mid south of the USA uses a word that when combined with her southern drawl cracks me up everytime, and I feel it applies perfectly here. "Wackadoodle"

Well, at least she hasn't said "Bless your heart"

[pritch]

They tried to impeach him.

They did impeach him. Twice.

[sugilite:Me]

Well, at least she hasn't said "Bless your heart"

She is way too polite to say that and she laughed heartily when I showed her your post. For those not in the know, when a southern belle says "Bless your heart", they are essentially saying fuck you. Tone tells you the depth of the sentiment

[Berries]

For those not in the know, when a southern belle says "Bless your heart", they are essentially saying fuck you.

And then they whack your doodle.

[pritch]

Actually it wasn't, I can't say I pay too much attention to other countries policies that don't affect me. I did a quick search on google for "trump to change law to class legal immigrants as illegal" and couldn't find anything specifically relating to that claim

I'm retired I have time to watch online content. You're right there's not a lot seems to have made the mainstream media but he has mentioned various things he wants to review or repeal in the rambling speeches at his rallies or to other groups.

He has recently mentioned again reviewing the law relating to automatic citizenship for people born in the USA. That's ironic because all but one of his own kids are 'anchor babies'.

Review or remove the laws that provide special protected status for people like the Hiatians at Springfield.
“They’re eating the dawgs, they’re eating the cats.” “What about the geese?”

Review or remove the special arrangements for the ‘Dreamers’.

Steven Miller one of his closest advisors on immigration is an extreme hardliner on immigration. He said in an interview he wants no Hispanic immigration at all. Zero.

[onearmedbandit]

He has recently mentioned again reviewing the law relating to automatic citizenship for people born in the USA. That's ironic because all but one of his own kids are 'anchor babies'.

According to this his children would be fine, as would any other children born in the USA with at least one parent who is a US citizen. It is important when making claims that all the facts are reported correctly. Although once again, maybe this source is wrong. Happy to be shown otherwise.

On his first day back in office, Trump has promised to issue an executive order ending the long-standing Constitutional principle that children born in the U.S. are granted citizenship. Trump said he will instruct federal agencies to require that any child born in the U.S. have at least one parent who is a lawful permanent resident or citizen, before they can be issued a passport or Social Security number.

https://time.com/7171654/donald-trum...ion-plan-2024/

[pritch]

According to this his children would be fine, as would any other children born in the USA with at least one parent who is a US citizen. It is important when making claims that all the facts are reported correctly. Although once again, maybe this source is wrong. Happy to be shown otherwise.



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That seems correct. As I said, he wants to make legals into illegals. The one parent thing will be new. Previously anyone born in the US automatically had citizenship.

During Trump's last time in the White House Republicans were whinging about 'anchor babies' who when born in the US automatically had citizenship. The mother could then claim residence or citizenship to be with her baby. Broadly speaking all Trump's kids except Tiffany can reasonably be described as anchor babies.

[sugilite:Me]

And then they whack your doodle.

Exactly, and whether they use their soft hand with just the right tension, or a studded baseball bat sets the tone

[sugilite:Me]

Trumps deportation will start with a hiss and a roar, then will quietly wind down as they need a certain amount of them to stay to take care of all the sub minimum wage jobs only illegal immigrants fulfill. Fuck all new wall will be built, but border guards will get a large boost in funding.

Buyers remorse will set in for a large bunch of voters when and if the wholesale use of tariffs cut in and they realize it is actually a tax on them. Also, I noticed that speaker christian hypocrite Johnson said they will be making major changes to obamacare in the first few months - which if course tells us that they always did have more than a "concept of a plan" in mind. So watch for many middle class people to lose their health benefits. When governments hide shit, it is not because they think their plans will be well received. Got to start paying those big corporate donors back pronto eh.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-trump-harris

Any knob who voted for trump thinking that he cared for the middle class workers is in for a rude shock, especially with musk driving cutting government spending. Can he do it without putting his thumb on the scales in his favor - I'm picking not. I cannot help thinking about how much scifi comes into being in the real world, and there sure is a lot of movies where corporations have replaced governement. Hello President Musk? Time will tell.

Oh, I'm quite sure trump will do his best to sell usps into private hands too. Think of the kickbacks on those contracts.

I see a lot of postmortems online as to why the dems lost. My personal take is trump got a MASSIVE bump when he got charged by brag. And I get why he got charged because he basically got on a mike and bragged about how he did it, everyone else did it so he would be stupid not too. Which if course is akin to saying "I was speeding officer because everyone else is doing it", then uploading a viral video to tictok and going on national tv (like he actually did) stating as such and wondering why all the attention from the law!
Trump is a criminal, and it is a travesty that useless soft cock garland wasted so much time fantasizing he was appeasing gop types that he was being "fair". Fair would of been running the cases through court in a timely manner so the voters had a chance to know one way or the other exactly how honest the guy running for president actually was .
Justice delayed, especially in these cases was justice denied.

So one of two things going to happen with the next trump presidency. He will either basically retire to the golf course and let the project 25 mob run the show, as is the likely agreement to even run him in the first place. Or he will be too egotistical, and attempt to run the whole show himself, where upon he will likely suffer a "surprising" heart attack which everyone will put down to the fat orange lard arse consuming one cheese burger too many. Anyone who thought the 2 previous attempts were masterminded by the left are absolutely in lala land. Professionals will make it look like natural causes every time as it is a lot less disruptive than assassination by shooting in public.

Also, I hope the magas get more house seats so they can do what ever it is that they are going to do unimpeded at least for the first 2 years. I'm sure the maga mob will not squander the chance like those idiots in the NZ labor party did! It also does not leave a blade of grass for them to hide behind when their shitty plans don't work out, or for me to hide behind if they do work out! As I'm a firm believer that this maga mob will just accelerate the transfer of wealth from the middle class to the top post haste, has me being very confidant I won't end up with egg on my face.

Fun fact. tariff pain, healthcare pain and general government service cuts pain, will all be pinned on trump by his own mob in the end. Something for trump to look forward to - that is if that cheese burger does not get him first

[Dean]

My wife, born in the mid south of the USA uses a word that when combined with her southern drawl cracks me up everytime, and I feel it applies perfectly here. "Wackadoodle"

I’ve got good friends in the Deep South, Mississippi, going over there early next year for a few weeks, real Trump country!

“Wackadoodle” is definitely a more mid south word. More “uptown”, folk further south use a more calloused vocabulary.

[pritch]

I’ve got good friends in the Deep South, Mississippi, going over there early next year for a few weeks, real Trump country!

Interesting choice. I'd almost rather visit Bangladesh. Similar life expectancy, both are third world shit holes. (To use a Trump turn of phrase.)

[TheDemonLord]

Trumps deportation will start with a hiss and a roar, then will quietly wind down as they need a certain amount of them to stay to take care of all the sub minimum wage jobs only illegal immigrants fulfill. Fuck all new wall will be built, but border guards will get a large boost in funding.

I suspect the biggest obstacle will be similar to the UK, remarkably well-funded hordes of 'Human Rights' Lawyers will try and tie up the process in so-much vexatious litigation to put every roadblock and hurdle in place to prevent it.

On one of the Podcasts I listened to, I think it might have been JD Vance talking to Rogan - but there was a story about the whole illegal immigrants working for Billionaires - they said they opposed it - so time will tell.

Buyers remorse will set in for a large bunch of voters when and if the wholesale use of tariffs cut in and they realize it is actually a tax on them.

There will be a lead time, but if the Tariffs are set correctly, it will drive manufacturing back to the US = more jobs = higher demand for labour = wages will rise = growing economy = everyone gets richer.

Any knob who voted for trump thinking that he cared for the middle class workers is in for a rude shock, especially with musk driving cutting government spending. Can he do it without putting his thumb on the scales in his favor - I'm picking not.

So, consider this: The biggest factor in driving Inflation is Government Spending (and money printing...). Inflation has been a huge issue for Middle Class workers, Myself included.

If Musk is successful at curtailing Government spending, even by say 5% - that is huge. Looking at NZ, with the work the National Government has done so far, Interest rates are coming down (tnank fuck!) and prices seem to have somewhat stabilized, now just need to wait for a Pay Rise to get back to where I was before Stalinda fucked everything.

Will Musk put his thumb on the scale - I mean, after seeing what he has done with X - I think he won't. The Radical Left types that were in control of Twitter blocked everyone that they didn't like, the inverse does not seem to be true. This is not the only area I have seen this phenomenon. Trump supporters will happily be friends with Radical Lefties, but Radical Lefties (the Tolerant ones, remember) are intolerant of Trump Supporters.

Musk seems to autistically care about Fairness (as opposed to Equity) - and so I'm hopeful.

I see a lot of postmortems online as to why the dems lost. My personal take is trump got a MASSIVE bump when he got charged by brag. And I get why he got charged because he basically got on a mike and bragged about how he did it, everyone else did it so he would be stupid not too. Which if course is akin to saying "I was speeding officer because everyone else is doing it", then uploading a viral video to tictok and going on national tv (like he actually did) stating as such and wondering why all the attention from the law!
Trump is a criminal, and it is a travesty that useless soft cock garland wasted so much time fantasizing he was appeasing gop types that he was being "fair". Fair would of been running the cases through court in a timely manner so the voters had a chance to know one way or the other exactly how honest the guy running for president actually was .
Justice delayed, especially in these cases was justice denied.

I mean the Democrats acting like a Bannana republic and using Lawfare to go after their political rivals was never going to work out well. I even said as much.

However - that is a drop in the bucket for why they lost.

They Lost, because their policies didn't work.

You had 4 years of Trump, with economic growth, reasonable global stability etc. You had 4 years of Biden with record inflation, increase in global conflict.

Then you have the internal issues with the Democrats - They parachuted Harris into the running after it was no longer tenable to maintain the lie that Biden was Cognitively competent.

Harris would have had to distance herself from the disastrous policies of Biden and outline her plan for the US - however she was between a Rock (The activist wing of the Democrats) and a Hard place (the Voters) - Things like Student debt forgiveness, Conflict in Gaza - to her activist base, she is not doing enough, but to the regular voter, that is always too far.

But I think the biggest issue - is that this time around, Trump and his team (Musk, Thulsi, Vivek, Vance, RFK etc.) went out and talked. Unscripted, at length, on multiple platforms. I am not just talking about Rogan - I saw them on Theo Von, Valuetainment, Shawn Ryan, JBP, Chris Williams etc.

I have not seen or listened to all of these (nor do I intend to) - but not only did that expose them to a potentially un-tapped audience, but more specifically it allowed people to see and hear the person behind the Headline.

It is one thing for the Guardian or NYT to have a Headline that is Trump said XYZ and the source is someone who totally heard it, trust me bro. Whereas these podcasts allowed people to talk to them.

Shawn Ryan (ex Navy Seal and CIA Contractor) - talked to Trump about Foreign Policy.
Rogan talked to Vance about Hallucingens for helping Veterens with PTSD.
Chris talked to Thulsi about how Washington works.

etc.

This humanized the candidates (in a way that the legacy Media would never allow) and furthermore it allowed them the space and bredth to talk about an issue, without requiring 30 second sound bites. On top of that, a Podcast host typically has a finger on the pulse of what things their audience is interested in. Shawn Ryan having an audience that is big on Military issues and Foreign wars, is going to be interested in hearing Trump talk about his Foreign Policy ideas.

Rogan, being Rogan, talks about Drugs

Harris was nowhere to be seen doing this. She had the invites - and as I have said previously, I would have listened to her on the likes of Rogan. I think the reason why is because her media handlers know that she is not a good speaker and it would make her look bad.

So one of two things going to happen with the next trump presidency. He will either basically retire to the golf course and let the project 25 mob run the show, as is the likely agreement to even run him in the first place. Or he will be too egotistical, and attempt to run the whole show himself, where upon he will likely suffer a "surprising" heart attack which everyone will put down to the fat orange lard arse consuming one cheese burger too many. Anyone who thought the 2 previous attempts were masterminded by the left are absolutely in lala land. Professionals will make it look like natural causes every time as it is a lot less disruptive than assassination by shooting in public.

Good Job RFK is going to sort out the CIA then, isn't it... (this is a Joke...)

I don't think Trump is the type of person to take his hand off the wheel. I think he will run it, but this time with people that believe in his vision.

Musk to cut down government largesse - fantastic idea.
RFK to look into food and drug policies - Imagine if he is right and successful and America gets healthier.

As for Assassinations - Trump is clearly the Main Character and so has Plot Armour...

Also, I hope the magas get more house seats so they can do what ever it is that they are going to do unimpeded at least for the first 2 years. I'm sure the maga mob will not squander the chance like those idiots in the NZ labor party did! It also does not leave a blade of grass for them to hide behind when their shitty plans don't work out, or for me to hide behind if they do work out! As I'm a firm believer that this maga mob will just accelerate the transfer of wealth from the middle class to the top post haste, has me being very confidant I won't end up with egg on my face.

Labour didn't squander their chances though... They did what they set out to do - Attempt to destroy New Zealand.

Excessive regulation always ends up hurting the individual owner/operator more than it does multi-national corporations. And when all those small businesses go under, that leaves an effective Monopoly for the big companies.

Case in point: Covid. Amazon, Netflix, UberEats, McDonalds - they all loved Covid. They could use Legal chicanery to say they were essential businesses and then get 200% increases in profit.

The brick and mortar shop that had been there for 30 years with a small staff of 5? Yeah, they went out of business.

My hope is that the deregulation, protectionism will promote entrepaneurship in the US, drive jobs back to the US, increase competition for labour, driving up wages, reducing inflation and generally making the Middle Class wealthy again.

[1/32 man]

So, consider this: The biggest factor in driving Inflation is Government Spending (and money printing...

Is that what you think? really?

There I was thinking it was the greedy profit driven corporate sector share holders/directors....silly me.
Next time I bump into luxton I will have to have a word about this.

[onearmedbandit]

Is that what you think? really?

There I was thinking it was the greedy profit driven corporate sector share holders/directors....silly me.
Next time I bump into luxton I will have to have a word about this.

Treasury seem to view it as one of the major drivers.

[TheDemonLord]

Is that what you think? really?

There I was thinking it was the greedy profit driven corporate sector share holders/directors....silly me.
Next time I bump into luxton I will have to have a word about this.

It is not 'What I think' - this is a cold hard economic fact.

Everytime there has been a government increasing the supply of Money, there has been inflation. Zimbabwe, Weimar republic, Venezuala etc.

As for the greed part - Imagine you are selling your home, you have two people who have placed bids on it - one for $1.1 Million, the other for $1.3 Million - which Offer do you take?

If it is the Later (which I strongly suspect it would be), then you are just as much a causal part of Inflation as any corporation.

The fact people do not know the actual causes of Inflation is just another example of the Mainstream media tonguing the asshole of Left-wing governments.