Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[Grumph]

I'm sure if Pritch felt that was the case Pritch would've said so himself. I'm happy to accept that as one interpretation but it wasn't one he proffered (yet). But it's still a stretch. I could accuse someone of child abuse, that would not indicate charges are hanging over them by the mere accusation. If the police were investigating, that still wouldn't infer chargers are imminent. If the police said, "we're following strong lines of inquiry and we are looking at possible charges", then yes I'd say charges are hanging over them.

His position and the influence he could command were largely protecting him.
If the Ethics committe had tossed him out of the House,I suspect charges would have been laid.

If they do release the report - and now he's resigned they have no reason to - it could get interesting.

I'm picking the report will be leaked anyway. His confirmation in the job I'd put at no better than 50/50.

He's made enemies in the House GOP. It'll be interesting.

[onearmedbandit]

His position and the influence he could command were largely protecting him.

Possibly, but it didn't stop the DOJ from charging him with sex trafficking.

[pritch]

I watched the video. Accusations that definitely need to addressed. But no charges mentioned of having sex with a minor. You obviously know the difference between accusations and charges right? The guy might well be the biggest scum bag walking the face of the earth, but you claimed he had multiple charges of having sex with minors hanging over him. Do you accept that your claim was incorrect. If not, show me a video or article where it states he has been charged with having sex with minors.

There were two videos.

I didn't say he had been charged, he had the possibility of charges hanging over him this morning. The Justice Department did not press ahead with their charges but the charges have not vanished they are still "hanging". New evidence could kick start them.

The Ethics Committee would have options including throwing him out of Congress, or more likely, forwarding their evidence to the Justice Department for prosecution. Whatever Gaetz found out, it was enough to make him leave Congress immediately. We could know more about that soon, the report is apparently due next week. If the Committee doesn't release their report now that Gaetz is gone at least the unreacted court documents should become available.

I don't understand your question about sex with minors. The girl at the centre of the trafficking charge was 17 at the time which in the US is underage. How old the students were that he paid I have no idea. His leaving Congress in precipitate fashion might have saved him from the Ethics Committee and if he is confirmed AG he can make it all go away.

Now some of these events are apparently the subject of a defamation case but that's new to me whereas this other stuff has been simmering slowly for years.

[onearmedbandit]

Gaetz who has multiple charges of sex with underage girls hanging over him.

The way this is worded, "multiple charges of sex with underage girls" implies there is more than one "charge", when there are no charges at all, not even any 'hanging' over him. Like I say, the guy could be the biggest scum bag walking the face of the planet, but the wording implies something that is not reality it would seem. The trafficking charge is different to accusations of underage sex. And accusations do not mean charges are hanging over someone. If the guy is guilty then lock him up. But so far all we have is accusations.

[sugilite:Me]

I saw a youtube video last year some time with a senior republican (not McCarthy) saying gates on numerous occasions tried showing him photos of naked young girls gates claimed to have had sex with. This is close to the bloody line and possibly illegal in the US - is this type of guy (when taking into consideration he to my mind at least is clearly enjoying some 2 tier justice immunity in that other matter) the type of man that should be holding such a position in the US justice system?

Personally I do not have a problem with trumps other picks thus far. But the gates one is abhorrent.

I would wager that any idiot being so keen to boast of these types of exploits has a full range of skeletons in the closet just waiting to be found. In other words, the perfect guy for trump to have in that position. gates will never say no to anything trump asks him.

[TheDemonLord]

Personally I do not have a problem with trumps other picks thus far.

Woah.

I uh....

Need to sit down...

I was not expecting that.


Someone pass me some smelling salts...

[onearmedbandit]

I saw a youtube video last year some time with a senior republican (not McCarthy) saying gates on numerous occasions tried showing him photos of naked young girls gates claimed to have had sex with. This is close to the bloody line and possibly illegal in the US - is this type of guy (when taking into consideration he to my mind at least is clearly enjoying some 2 tier justice immunity in that other matter) the type of man that should be holding such a position in the US justice system?

Personally I do not have a problem with trumps other picks thus far. But the gates one is abhorrent.

I would wager that any idiot being so keen to boast of these types of exploits has a full range of skeletons in the closet just waiting to be found. In other words, the perfect guy for trump to have in that position. gates will never say no to anything trump asks him.

If what is being said about him is true then he needs to be dealt with in a way fitting of a child sex offender and definitely should not be in any position of authority, not even in the jail kitchen.

[pete376403]

I saw a youtube video last year some time with a senior republican (not McCarthy) saying gates on numerous occasions tried showing him photos of naked young girls gates claimed to have had sex with. This is close to the bloody line and possibly illegal in the US - is this type of guy (when taking into consideration he to my mind at least is clearly enjoying some 2 tier justice immunity in that other matter) the type of man that should be holding such a position in the US justice system?

Personally I do not have a problem with trumps other picks thus far. But the gates one is abhorrent.

I would wager that any idiot being so keen to boast of these types of exploits has a full range of skeletons in the closet just waiting to be found. In other words, the perfect guy for trump to have in that position. gates will never say no to anything trump asks him.

Gates as in Bill, or Gaetz as in creep?

[Stylo]

Woah.

I uh....

Need to sit down...

I was not expecting that.


Someone pass me some smelling salts...

I would have thought that a brainwashed cult member like you wouldn't need smelling salts. You must be rejoicing in Trumps nomination of Matt Gaetz. A sex traffiker, accused of dealings with an under age girl.

Your Trump is also a convicted sexual offender. Apart from being a serial fraudster. And a serial liar.

And a weakling, He said he had 'Bone spurs' . Another lie from your Champion.

You must be proud of the sexual offenders DL.

[Laava]

If what is being said about him is true then he needs to be dealt with in a way fitting of a child sex offender and definitely should not be in any position of authority, not even in the jail kitchen.

Someone has to cook trunts food.
pigs in shit.

[F5 Dave]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/3...alth-secretary

Wot a fucking loser.

Vaccine skeptic. I mean Jesus, a lot of people are alive, unfortunately him as well as a result of medical science.

Doesn't deserve to keep breathing the same air.

[TheDemonLord]

I would have thought that a brainwashed cult member like you wouldn't need smelling salts. You must be rejoicing in Trumps nomination of Matt Gaetz. A sex traffiker, accused of dealings with an under age girl.

Your Trump is also a convicted sexual offender. Apart from being a serial fraudster. And a serial liar.

And a weakling, He said he had 'Bone spurs' . Another lie from your Champion.

You must be proud of the sexual offenders DL.

You alright there - seem to be a little bit agitated...

On Matt Gaetz - I have very little opinion - I dont follow him nor have I heard enough about his opinions.

But as for Weakling - A 70+ year old man Gets shot in the head, 1-2 cm away from a permanent lights out, gets up, blood streaming down his face and shows absolute defiance.

Not really the actions of a Weakling.

[TheDemonLord]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/3...alth-secretary

Wot a fucking loser.

Vaccine skeptic. I mean Jesus, a lot of people are alive, unfortunately him as well as a result of medical science.

Doesn't deserve to keep breathing the same air.

There is a lot of Framing there... I dont agree with him on a number of things - however, I do believe he has a genuine interest in Americas health.

For example - he is critical of highly processed foods, does that have an impact on a Nations health, Maybe.
He is critical of Pharmaceutical companies (even someone who marvels at the wonders of modern medicine would not be remiss of having one keen eye on said industry).

Worst case scenario - I don't think the US can get any more unhealthy.
Best case scenario - The US gets healthier.

I do, however, find it hilarious that a former Democrat, from one of the most famous Democrat dynasties is now getting the Smear treatment because he is working with Trump.

[Stylo]

You alright there - seem to be a little bit agitated...

On Matt Gaetz - I have very little opinion - I dont follow him nor have I heard enough about his opinions.

But as for Weakling - A 70+ year old man Gets shot in the head, 1-2 cm away from a permanent lights out, gets up, blood streaming down his face and shows absolute defiance.

Not really the actions of a Weakling.

Not agitated. Never have been my friend. The weakling that had his ear clipped by a bullet showed defiance only because he was so stupid he did'nt realise how close he was to being killed.

He's always going to be a weakling in a factual sense virtue of his Bone spurs bullshit. That was the first of his many lies that cult followers like you seem to ignore.

Matt Gaetz you promote by association, don't deny it. You're a Maga man. Therefore you abide by anything your idiot says is the correct thing to do. Matt Gaetz is a sex traffikker, you love Trump , he loves Matt Gaetz so ... you must

love him too. That's how stupid works. Sexual offenders unite Demon Lord ? Trump knows all about that.

We haven't started on RFK Junior yet

[sugilite:Me]

Gates as in Bill, or Gaetz as in creep?

It's open gates for trump to abuse the judicial system. But yes, is gaetz the creep.


In other news, that gabbard sounds like really bad news. The former republican peace czar john bolton does not seem to like or rate her.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/14/p...-bolton-digvid

Neither does this former security council member .........
Looking at the video thumbnail looks like gabbards makeup is a dead match for trumps shade of orange. Did she have a cheek to cheeks session with the "don" to get the position?


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