Weekend cruiser
Nailed it.Medical insurance and living in the land of silicon titties. Ear is mostly gristle. Bit of selleys no more gaps and some make up dusting job done. You can prob buy a kit off amazon.
“Have you just survived a driveby shooting but need to patch yourself up? Can’t access health system due to outstanding warrants? Our home ear repair kit is just for you”
Geriatric hoon
I've seen clips talking technicalities tp prove whatever theory the originator favoured. I'm talking the simple view. That projectile particle in the photo is light or white in colour. Bullets are generally dark in colour. It also appears to be too small.Originally Posted by onearmedbandit
What originally made me think that wasn't a bullet was Trump's comment that it whizzed by. At that range those bullets don't whiz they make a loud crack.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Rasta Ratskins
The other point is that in americastan, almost everyone has guns, even the newborns. So a kind of "herd immunity" thing happens where bullets now have little to no effect.
it is kinda like the Density/TuTangata gullibi(collective) where the brain washing gets in, and as it does, cause the brain to have less and less effect. This can be quite noticeable unless you simply choose to ignore it!
Only a Rat can win a Rat Race!
Anorak
But you have to remember the good guy with the gun doctrine . Clearly the only reason trump was shot at as is it was unarmed and clearly not a good guy...The other point is that in americastan, almost everyone has guns, even the newborns. So a kind of "herd immunity" thing happens where bullets now have little to no effect.
it is kinda like the Density/TuTangata gullibi(collective) where the brain washing gets in, and as it does, cause the brain to have less and less effect. This can be quite noticeable unless you simply choose to ignore it!
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Kiwibiker
If course you are correct, the viquor trump shows when getting in and out of his golf cart to take his shots is super impressive
None of your examples come close to
Paying the extensive education fees for what is essentially thomasis adopted son
Paying off Thomas mothers extensive home loan
Paying for fancy overseas trips for thomas worth millions.
Your premise seems to be, well the guy giving these "gifts" is very wealthy, so it magically removes these acts from possibly being bribery - while simultaneously banging on how impressive thomas court rulings are - yet it slips thomas highly skilled and trained legal mind that he is bound by the rules in declaring these "gifts".
I would suggest, though regarding the above, I have no idea why I'm crediting that you are capable of entertaining the concept that maybe, just maybe - thomas would not pay back these billionaire investments in the form of a bum ruling in plain sight on the court, but rather he is a "bit" smarter than that and does his dirty under handed work in the hallowed halls of a old boys club safely out of sight. (you know the point I have been making and you have been steadfastly ignoring.)
Absurd is ignoring he accepted millions without declaring it, and trying to make out because the briber is rich it is no longer a bribe. Honestly, 90% of your post extolling thomas prowess when rendering constitutional rulings while steadfastly ignoring corruption comes in many forms is rendered mute. Now that is absurd.
Seeing how we agreed largely on the waitangi issue, it did make me realize that our clashes on the trump thread is because of your sliding scale when it comes to judging anything trump (hes not lying, he is bombastic etc) and your seeming passion for unbridled corruption. It had me wondering, is this acceptance, nay passionate defense of wholesale corruption a Libertarian thing? So off to Wikipedia I went to look into this Libertarian gig.
Well, that was interesting on so many levels. 1st, if your idea of the perfect start to the day is a morning coffee, English muffin, and a good ole argument with someone on the internet, then being a Libertarian is perfect for you! What a rag tag mish mash of beliefs and ideology types!
OK, so back to are Libertarians corruption loving?
Nope, right here in paragraph one on wikipedia "Many libertarians conceive of freedom in accord with the Non-Aggression Principle, according to which each individual has the right to live as they choose, so long as it does not involve violating the rights of others by initiating force or fraud against them".
Hmm, so which flavor of libertarian are you? I think I found you right near the bottom of the definitions - I believe this is more or less you - yes?
"Conservative on economic issues (economic liberalism and fiscal conservatism) and liberal on personal freedom (civil libertarianism and cultural liberalism).It is also often associated with a foreign policy of non-interventionism."
But your specific flavor welcomes corruption as long as it does not have deep marxist roots?
More to Marxism, how I laughed when I saw this on the same wikipedia page - "In the mid-19th century, libertarianism originated as a form of anti-authoritarian and anti-state politics usually seen as being on the left (like socialists and anarchists especially social anarchists, but more generally libertarian communists/Marxists and libertarian socialists). Along with seeking to abolish or reduce the power of the State, these libertarians sought to abolish capitalism and private ownership of the means of production, or else to restrict their purview or effects to usufruct property norms, in favor of common or cooperative ownership and management, viewing private property in the means of production as a barrier to freedom and liberty."
Now if course I also noted that modern day libertarians come in flavors from the far left all the way to the far rights - hence my comment about the movement seemingly being geared towards inevitable and fervent arguing! But I really did have a good chuckle when reading about libertarian roots while recalling how many of your posts had the term "deep marxist roots" sprinkled through them
Kiwibiker
After 4 years of maga banging on about DEI hires and how surely the only fair way to hire people is to hire the most qualified canadite - let us have a look at trumps cabinet picks shall we?
I would of expected trump to hire nothing but the best of the best of the best! I would less than boldly suggest these picks are far from that. Some maybe competent sure, but is this mob really the best of the best - really?
At least we now know what trumps mysterious "black Job" is - why it is HUD (urban housing). The last guy he had in that job was also black. Credit to trump on this one, he has finally shown he has turned over a new leaf and is now letting blacks into his housing projects
Many black politicians auditioned for jobs with trump during the looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong election cycle, but the one I feel sorry for the most is tim scott, My goodness he sucked trumps dick so hard in public I thought he was in danger of turning trumps arsehole inside out
Geriatric hoon
Yeah he parks his cart on the green which is a definite no no. He can't even walk half the width of the green. Then again we can recall the time he used his motorcade just to cross the road. An athlete he ain't. He avoids side on photos if possible 'cause they show just how fat he is. That is one heavy duty red tie, it hides his gut and his nappies.If course you are correct, the viquor trump shows when getting in and out of his golf cart to take his shots is super impressive
As to what is corruption and what's not. If one of Thomas's rich friends said, I'm flying to New Zealand next week, would you like to come?" That is one thing.
If his rich friend said," I'm not using my jet next week would you and your wife like to fly to New Zealand for a holiday?" That's different.
The value of the trip, which would amount to tens of thousands, would need to be declared. Reportedly that actually happened and no, it was not declared.
These days I only occasionally see TDL's posts but your quotes detailing his intransigence caught my eye.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Trump seems to be a lot more fit than Biden, despite his midsection. That said - on a different note (and a complete aside) - Did you see RFKs Gym Work out - The man is an absolute Unit.If course you are correct, the viquor trump shows when getting in and out of his golf cart to take his shots is super impressive
So, lets do the Math - Harlan Crow - Estimated Net worth of $2.5 Billion.
If I gave you $20 (with my salary) - how much would that be equivalent to someone like that, well, it is above $400,000.
Those things, to you and I, are massive expenses. To a Billionaire, its like $20. That was my entire point. Him paying for say private tuition is the equivalent of me buying you a Lemon, Lime and Bitters.
Do you consider a drink a Gift? If I invite you on a motorcyle ride and offer to pay for lunch, is that a Gift?
Okay, hear me out for second - let us pre-suppose that such a ruling existed. Do you not think that those who categorically hate Thomas and his conservative views would not have been steadfastly searching for such a ruling during all this time?I would suggest, though regarding the above, I have no idea why I'm crediting that you are capable of entertaining the concept that maybe, just maybe - thomas would not pay back these billionaire investments in the form of a bum ruling in plain sight on the court, but rather he is a "bit" smarter than that and does his dirty under handed work in the hallowed halls of a old boys club safely out of sight. (you know the point I have been making and you have been steadfastly ignoring.
Were such a ruling to exist, we both know it would be splashed all across the front pages of NYT, WaPO, front and centre on CNN, MSNBC etc.
And the notion that it would be so underhanded and so subtle as to be completely undetectable to the most single-minded witchhunt and yet obvious corruption is a contradiction in-of-itself.
Which is to say this: I do not believe that these claims have any real legitimacy in that they are simply an attempt to get Conservative justices off of the SC, because the Democrats dont like that the SC is now ruling in accordance with the constitution.
Freedom of Accord - does that extend to a SC justice getting the equivalent of $20 from a friend, because so long as it does not violate the rights of others, I think it does.
And that is the very crux of the issue
Thats European Libertarianism. Right Libertarianism has its roots in Classic and English Liberalism, which - you will note - preceed Marx by a good few centuries.More to Marxism, how I laughed when I saw this on the same wikipedia page - "In the mid-19th century, libertarianism originated as a form of anti-authoritarian and anti-state politics usually seen as being on the left (like socialists and anarchists especially social anarchists, but more generally libertarian communists/Marxists and libertarian socialists). Along with seeking to abolish or reduce the power of the State, these libertarians sought to abolish capitalism and private ownership of the means of production, or else to restrict their purview or effects to usufruct property norms, in favor of common or cooperative ownership and management, viewing private property in the means of production as a barrier to freedom and liberty."
Now if course I also noted that modern day libertarians come in flavors from the far left all the way to the far rights - hence my comment about the movement seemingly being geared towards inevitable and fervent arguing! But I really did have a good chuckle when reading about libertarian roots while recalling how many of your posts had the term "deep marxist roots" sprinkled through them
Some would argue as far back as Magna Carta.
As David Starky remarks: All bad ideas come from France.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
The Majestic Metal Wizard
If nothing else - I want to see Day 1 in the Department of Education, with Linda McMahon, commentated by Ol' JR:After 4 years of maga banging on about DEI hires and how surely the only fair way to hire people is to hire the most qualified canadite - let us have a look at trumps cabinet picks shall we?
I would of expected trump to hire nothing but the best of the best of the best! I would less than boldly suggest these picks are far from that. Some maybe competent sure, but is this mob really the best of the best - really?
At least we now know what trumps mysterious "black Job" is - why it is HUD (urban housing). The last guy he had in that job was also black. Credit to trump on this one, he has finally shown he has turned over a new leaf and is now letting blacks into his housing projects
Many black politicians auditioned for jobs with trump during the looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong election cycle, but the one I feel sorry for the most is tim scott, My goodness he sucked trumps dick so hard in public I thought he was in danger of turning trumps arsehole inside out
"OH MY GOD ITS LINDA WITH A STEEL CHAIR! BAWWWW GAWD SHES BROKEN THEM IN HALF!"
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
The Majestic Metal Wizard
I have two questions - firstly, what is the major philosophical difference between the two scenarios (and I will accept there are some - but I want to hear your take)
And secondly - there is that word 'Reportedly' - and call me cynical, but whenever I see that word nowadays, I usually find a trail of half-truths, He-said, She-said, unverifiable remarks and other such things.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Kiwibiker
Bar the blurb on libertarian material, your entire post is moot and an exercise in misdirection.
It matters not how rich the briber is - not one bit.
What does matter is a supreme court justice - representing the highest court in the land in USA accepted millions in gifts and did not declare them - as he should of. How curious you in no way address that fact - like in no way at all.
Geriatric hoon
One is hospitality the other is ethically compromised. Which is why he didn't report it. Thomas has been receiving "gifts" from Crow for over twenty years. Even you can't believe Thomas would be an unbiased party to a SCOTUS hearing involving Crow.
You possibly wouldn't consider Reuters a credible news source but I do.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...by-2024-08-05/
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
The Majestic Metal Wizard
It does matter when we consider scale. Look, I will use a different example that is non-political - Shaq being infamously generous, Shaq giving a waitress a $4,000 tip is life-changing for the Waitress and pocket change for Shaq.
How many people here have Boats or Jetskis that they have let good friends borrow? What to you and I is the absolute pinnacle of Luxury, is akin to letting a mate borrow your boat or trailer.
I refuse to address it, because without the commensurate corrupt act, it is without basis. Looking at Pritchs' link, the alleged flight was from 2010 - Thomas defense is that they were "personal hospitality" - So, naturally - I decided to have a look - the first thing I found was that Supreme Court Justices are not actually legally bound to follow the ethics rules, they voluntarily choose to follow the Judicial Conference interpretations.
Then there is what constitutes Personal Hospitality:
So, if I were to pay for Clarence to come on a hunting trip, out of my own pocket, regardless of how much it cost or how lavish it was - it is almost certainly covered under this interpretation (which, FYI, was from a Democrat Senator.Hospitality extended for a non-business purpose by an individual, not a corporation or organization, at the personal residence of that individual or his or her family or on property or facilities owned by that individual or his or her family.
There is some legalese around Private Jet travel - one article mentioned that this might have been a technical oversight, as Private Jets are often owned by a dedicated company, rather than an individual - but again, if I said 'Hey, wanna come fly with me to the Isle of Mann TT on my private jet' - is your first question going to be about the ownership status of the Jet.
Then there is the issue of who paid, if it was paid out of my individual account, all good. If it was paid by my companies account, it is an issue.
In short - there is a reasonable case that however distasteful you may find it, that from the rules as they are - Clarence did nothing wrong. At worst, he might need to amend an over decade old declaration.
And then we have the other half - despite all of that scrutiny, no proof has been offered of a dubious ruling in favor of his benefactors.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Interesting perspective, not what I would have thought - I don't see it as Ethically Compromised.
As for Thomas being unbiased - in Twenty years then, it should be pretty easy to find an instance of Bias. Except I will note - that has never been alleged.
I mean, the article isn't bad - one thing I did note though is this line:
Which I find telling, it sounds like they are going after a technicality of ownership of the asset, in order to dispute it being Personal Hospitality."into the tax treatment of the use of Mr. Crow's superyacht and private aircraft."
If I own a Private Jet, and I put it in it's own LLC for Tax purposes, then I fly you on it - did I fly you as a personal guest or did TheDemonLord Private Jet Inc. fly you as a business client?
It seems to me that when we dig into the meat of the matter, it is not the clear cut bribery claim that the Left is making out, but an exemption to the rules with some fuzzy grey areas, that from a certain perspective Thomas (who is not *required* to adhere to) has followed.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Weekend cruiser
TDL seems to be a Russian troll with too much time on his hands...He is a Trump lover and defender and now is supporting ol Clarence.
Shit man, why dont you pick a winner for a change?
I cant be bothered with your "logical and wordy" replies.
I have judged you as someone with oppositional defiance syndrome....think I will try to ignore your bullshed from now on.
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