Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[pritch]

I don't see it as Ethically Compromised.

You are definitely in the minority there. A very small minority.

it sounds like they are going after a technicality of ownership of the asset, in order to dispute it being Personal Hospitality.

And that right there is the problem. Take his undeclared Indonesian trip, a holiday worth in excess of a million dollars, private jet to Indonesia for him and his wife then a cruise on Crow's private yacht. A very expensive gift - undeclared and therefore illegal and unethical.


I'm outa here.

[TheDemonLord]

TDL seems to be a Russian troll with too much time on his hands...He is a Trump lover and defender and now is supporting ol Clarence.

Da Tovarisch! Vodka!

Yes, I happen to like Clarence Thomas, If you have ever read any of the oral transcripts on SC hearings, he asks very few, but incredibly pointed questions and I find his legal reasoning very interesting.

Shit man, why dont you pick a winner for a change?

Presidency, Popular Vote, House and Senate - I did

I cant be bothered with your "logical and wordy" replies.

I have judged you as someone with oppositional defiance syndrome....think I will try to ignore your bullshed from now on.

Nah, it's not that - I mean I know I sometimes like to take a contrarian position for shits and giggles - but on this issue - it has nothing to do with that and everything to do with stemming a poison that was seeping through society.

[TheDemonLord]

You are definitely in the minority there. A very small minority.

Perhaps, but then people said that only a Minority of people supported Trump - and well, the Popular vote says otherwise.

It would be more accurate to say I am a Vocal Minority of a silent Majority.

And that right there is the problem. Take his undeclared Indonesian trip, a holiday worth in excess of a million dollars, private jet to Indonesia for him and his wife then a cruise on Crow's private yacht. A very expensive gift - undeclared and therefore illegal and unethical.

If it was all paid for by Crow personally then it would not need to be declared, under the Personal Hospitality.

That is, as per the rules (which I remind you, SC Justices voluntarily abide by, they are not legislated to abide by).

Put aside the cost and the luxury for a moment - If I were to offer you a ride in my car and go somewhere - would you view the experience any differently if the car was registered in my name or registered to a Company?

Of course you wouldn't.

Which means the objection is based on the value of the hospitality, which comes back to my earlier point - if you follow this line of reasoning all the way down, it means Clarence can't have rich friends.

[sugilite:Me]

It does matter when we consider scale.

Can you point to a single case where the judge pronounced that the briber was so rich it invalidated the bribery case?

In short - there is a reasonable case that however distasteful you may find it, that from the rules as they are - Clarence did nothing wrong. At worst, he might need to amend an over decade old declaration.

You seem to have forgotten the bribes of paying expensive education fees and the clarences mums house being paid for?

And then we have the other half - despite all of that scrutiny, no proof has been offered of a dubious ruling in favor of his benefactors.

Covered that when I said thomas would be smarter than that and the payback for the bribe will have occurred in the old boys club.

[sugilite:Me]

My god, vance trumps ummmmmm, vp pick essentially cuckolds himself portraying himself as a sissy to trump in a thanks giving post - why?!?!?!?!

[sugilite:Me]

Trump proposes swapping out drunkard, womanizing, financial mismanagement extraordinaire pete hegseth with a mere child abuser ron "meatball pudding fingers" desantis. Bit of a downgrade on the maga skill sets there....

[pritch]

Trump proposes swapping out drunkard, womanizing, financial mismanagement extraordinaire pete hegseth with a mere child abuser ron "meatball pudding fingers" desantis. Bit of a downgrade on the maga skill sets there....

So when he awoke this morning Matt Gaetz couldn't believe his luck. He was always more interested in Florida state politics than what was happening in DC. If DeSantis goes to Washington this is Gaetz' chance to be Governor of Florida.

[Dean]

Saw this article and it made my day:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna182923

her billion-dollar campaign raised and spent roughly twice as much as Trump in the final days of the race and the weeks that followed.

If she is so righteous over Trump - why did she need to spend an insane billion dollar campaign of hard earned taxpayer money to buy celebrity appearances etc etc then lose by a landslide.

[husaberg]

Trumps previous statements about Asshat.

Almost any list of America’s top foreign rivals would include Iran, Russia and the government of Syria.


Sunday night, Donald Trump spoke approvingly of all three.


Trump infuriated Republican insiders—and contradicted one of his own senior foreign policy advisers—when he suggested that those three governments are playing a positive role in Syria’s civil war.


.....Assad is killing ISIS. Russia is killing ISIS and Iran is killing ISIS,” Trump said when asked about his plans for Syria. He was referring to the country’s president, Bashar Assad, and using an acronym for the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.


Although Trump has argued before against intervening in Syria, and often calls for cooperation with Russia against ISIS, his statement Sunday night was particularly blunt—and underscored the huge gap between Trump’s views and mainstream Republican thinking.


Trump’s position also contradicted the view of one of his senior foreign policy advisers...


“When it is said that Russia would make an ideal partner for fighting Radical Islam, it behooves us to remember that the Russians haven’t been very effective at fighting jihadis on their own territory, and are in cahoots with the Iranians,”


“In Syria, the two allies have loudly proclaimed they are waging war against ISIS, but in reality the great bulk of their efforts are aimed at the opponents of the Assad regime,” Flynn adds in the book, co-written with the conservative policy analyst Michael Ledeen, who has also been identified as a Trump campaign adviser.


After the debate, other experts called Trump’s claim factually and even morally dubious, arguing that Assad’s continued grip on power, with the support of Tehran and Moscow, makes it harder to defeat the radical Islamic group.


“ISIS wouldn’t be there but for Assad,” said Danielle Pletka, vice president of foreign and defense policy studies at the conservative American Enterprise Institute.


“For Assad, Iran and Russia, ISIS is at most a secondary enemy: The real enemy is the Syrian opposition (which they are crushing) and the Syrian population
Trump presented the situation differently. “Right now, Syria is fighting ISIS,” he said. That echoes Assad’s consistent claims that he is a heroic bulwark against radical terrorism, and not fighting a popular insurrection with ultimately peaceful goals.




Andrew Tabler, a Syria expert at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, supported the view that the Assad-Iran-Russia axis is not playing a significant role in the anti-ISIS fight.


“The U.S.-led coalition does the lion’s share of the fighting against ISIS,” Tabler said. He noted that the Syria government has recaptured only about 2 percent of the country’s territory since Russia intervened on its behalf. Little of that is in ISIS-controlled areas.


Iranian and Russian forces, aiding Assad’s embattled regime, have mostly targeted rebel fighters who themselves oppose ISIS. Some are relative moderates backed by the CIA, while others are radical Islamists aligned with Al Qaeda. Even those radicals consider ISIS to be too extreme.






U.S. officials believe that Russia began airstrikes in Syria last fall not to combat ISIS but to prevent Assad from potential defeat at the hands of other rebel groups.

[husaberg]

Saw this article and it made my day:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna182923



If she is so righteous over Trump - why did she need to spend an insane billion dollar campaign of hard earned taxpayer money to buy celebrity appearances etc etc then lose by a landslide.

Out of interest can you figure out why Harris money was concentrated immediately prior to the election when trump raised and spend far more more prior?

Although the Trump campaign raised $382m in the period that Harris raised more than $1bn, outside groups like Super PACs (political action committees) contributed roughly $711m, according to data from Open Secrets in an October 26 report

The other important things is I don't believe Harris has a conviction for was it 34 or 39 separate fraud charges relating to misuse and fraud with campaign funds...
just some minor details aye....

[pritch]

Trumps previous statements about Asshat.

.....Assad is killing ISIS. Russia is killing ISIS and Iran is killing ISIS,” Trump said when asked about his plans for Syria. He was referring to the country’s president, Bashar Assad, and using an acronym for the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

Assad was too busy killing his own people. The Kurds were killing ISIS. Trump betrayed the Kurds to save his properties in Turkey. The Kurds and the Marsh Arabs found out to their cost how reliable the US is as an ally.

Had a book here about a young Syrian guy who aspired to be a journalist. One night some jets flew in fast, dropped bombs, and left at the same speed they arrived. This was unusual, Assad's people flew around interminably dropping barrel bombs on civilian areas. The young guy thought about this and posted on social media that the US had entered the war. Then he went to sleep. When he awoke every major international news organisation wanted to interview him. Not bad for an aspiring journalist.
Oh and he was correct, the jets were American.

[Berries]

Saw this article and it made my day:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna182923
If she is so righteous over Trump - why did she need to spend an insane billion dollar campaign of hard earned taxpayer money to buy celebrity appearances etc etc then lose by a landslide.

I think we have all moved on?

[Dean]

I think we have all moved on?

Who is “we”?

[Laava]

I see the FOC has loudmouthed about King Charles having and recovering from cancer. Not his job to make the world aware of other peoples health issues. The fuckwit has no filter.

[Berries]

Who is “we”?

Everyone on here except you.