Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[pritch]

There is an outbreak of an Ebola variant in Tanzania. The Tanzanian government at first tried to hide it and denied it. Hardly encouraging. If that gets into the US we're all in trouble. Trump has muzzled the CDC and if Marburg arrives in the USA when he finally acknowledges the threat he'll be full of such wisdom as that it will magically disappear when the weather warms up. Ebola is the stuff of nightmares and it's potentially only one jet flight from Africa to the US away.

[pritch]

In case you thought Trumps plan to deport illegal immigrant criminals wasn't just about getting rid of people with brown faces...

https://azmirror.com/2025/01/24/repo...ribal-leaders/

[nerrrd]

Now, to be clear - I have zero dog in this fight - but there is a point to be made - the Left think they can rename places arbitrarily, especially in regards to indigenous names - So Trump is doing the same, but from his view of America First.

Also - Colombia seems to have bowed the Knee and the flights are landing.

Of course Colombia have bent the knee. They would have done so if this had been handled more diplomatically as well, just without the same entertainment (propaganda?) value.

Renaming places arbitrarily is more about propaganda than anything else, no matter who's doing it. It's also a great way to waste time and money.

[TheDemonLord]

Of course Colombia have bent the knee. They would have done so if this had been handled more diplomatically as well, just without the same entertainment (propaganda?) value.

If you read the Colombian presidents response to Trump, it is very clear that overt force was needed and a very public capitulation.

Renaming places arbitrarily is more about propaganda than anything else, no matter who's doing it. It's also a great way to waste time and money.

I partially agree, which is why the Left have been doing it for ages...

It is, however, funny that it is only wrong when Trump is doing it.

[nerrrd]

If you read the Colombian presidents response to Trump, it is very clear that overt force was needed and a very public capitulation.



I partially agree, which is why the Left have been doing it for ages...

It is, however, funny that it is only wrong when Trump is doing it.

Or, to look at it another way, he was provoked into making an (admittedly) rambling, incoherent and unwise public response because President Trump put him in an embarrassing situation in full view of his citizenry (and the world)?

[TheDemonLord]

Or, to look at it another way, he was provoked into making an (admittedly) rambling, incoherent and unwise public response because President Trump put him in an embarrassing situation in full view of his citizenry (and the world)?

I dont think it is his Citizenry, whose embarresment mattered:

It is the Left wing Globalist philosophy.

In the UK - there has been long calls to secure the Border, turn back Illegal Migrants etc. and certain Lefty groups (NGOs, Media, Human Rights Lawyers etc.) have all stymied this in a myriad of ways - and they have all said that this couldnt be done etc.

Trump started to do it, so the Colombian President (who believes in these Left Wing ideas) tried to oppose him... Trump put the boot down and showed the world that actually No, all you need to do is tell those Lefty groups to get bent and do it anyway - and much to no ones surprise: It works!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Of course Colombia have bent the knee. They would have done so if this had been handled more diplomatically as well, just without the same entertainment (propaganda?) value.

Renaming places arbitrarily is more about propaganda than anything else, no matter who's doing it. It's also a great way to waste time and money.

and shift focus from other shit. couple that with the implosion of actual news and reportage, and we are witnessing the fall of empire. Instead of playing the fiddle we are all scrolling on our phones.

[nerrrd]

I dont think it is his Citizenry, whose embarresment mattered:

It is the Left wing Globalist philosophy.

In the UK - there has been long calls to secure the Border, turn back Illegal Migrants etc. and certain Lefty groups (NGOs, Media, Human Rights Lawyers etc.) have all stymied this in a myriad of ways - and they have all said that this couldnt be done etc.

Trump started to do it, so the Colombian President (who believes in these Left Wing ideas) tried to oppose him... Trump put the boot down and showed the world that actually No, all you need to do is tell those Lefty groups to get bent and do it anyway - and much to no ones surprise: It works!

But in both cases, the UK and the US governments have always had the soft power to do so. In both cases until now, their respective governments have chosen not to exercise it – for whatever political reason, left, right or indifferent.

President Trump has now demonstrated that he's going to exercise that soft power in a way which makes it clear he's not interested in sparing the blushes of those on the other end of it. That's up to him, he has the soft power to do pretty much whatever he likes, but to the rest of the world, it looks like bullying. What's the advice the average MAGA parent gives to their child when someone starts bullying them at school?

Diplomacy exists for a reason, it's not there by accident – it's taken 1000s of years and a few civilisations to realise that presenting deals like this in such a way that both sides look like they're winning creates a much more stable international environment. In my opinion.

[pritch]

It seems the future of Trump's vaunted Stargate may not be as bright today as it seemed only yesterday. The emergence of a vastly less expensive open source AI alternative from China has rocked the markets.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...deepseek-buzz/

[Pursang]

...... Trump put the boot down and showed the world that actually No, all you need to do is tell those Lefty groups to get bent and do it anyway - and much to no ones surprise: It works!

It works? If you think a 50% tariff war is a win!

[TheDemonLord]

But in both cases, the UK and the US governments have always had the soft power to do so. In both cases until now, their respective governments have chosen not to exercise it – for whatever political reason, left, right or indifferent.

Okay, hear me out - People have been crying out for this to be done for the last 20 or so years - and it has not been done.

You are correct that the respective Governments have chosen not to exercise it - there is a question there as to why and the answer is most interesting.

President Trump has now demonstrated that he's going to exercise that soft power in a way which makes it clear he's not interested in sparing the blushes of those on the other end of it. That's up to him, he has the soft power to do pretty much whatever he likes, but to the rest of the world, it looks like bullying. What's the advice the average MAGA parent gives to their child when someone starts bullying them at school?

It does not look like Bullying to me, it looks like someone enforcing boundaries that are reasonable and normal:

This is our Country, we get to choose who we accept as permanent Residents or Citizens, if you are here illegally, you will be removed and if you are here illegally and commit Crimes, you will be unceremoniously removed.

People are trying to complain that this is somehow wrong and Trump is simply not kowtowing to the Wailing and Gnashing of teeth.

Furthermore it sends a very clear message to all other countries - You will enforce your own borders or we will do it for you in a manner that you may not like.

Diplomacy exists for a reason, it's not there by accident – it's taken 1000s of years and a few civilisations to realise that presenting deals like this in such a way that both sides look like they're winning creates a much more stable international environment. In my opinion.

Sometimes that is the correct thing to do.
Sometimes the correct thing to do is to park an Aircraft carrier off the coast in International waters and ask if they want to find out.

[sugilite:Me]

Lets just ignore that Colombia has been accepting planes of returned migrants and criminals from the USA for many, many years(frustratingly I could not find the article about that I read yesterday, it has been something to the tune of 124 flights since the obama/bush era.) It was trumps stunts using military planes and handcuffs etc that the President of Colombia had the issue with. Just trump being a showman cunt.

In breaking news, Tulsi Gabbard has been found in direct communication with Putin. Disgustingly She has passed over lots of sensitive secrets directly to him. Treason charges to come.

[TheDemonLord]

Lets just ignore that Colombia has been accepting planes of returned migrants and criminals from the USA for many, many years(frustratingly I could not find the article about that I read yesterday, it has been something to the tune of 124 flights since the obama/bush era.) It was trumps stunts using military planes and handcuffs etc that the President of Colombia had the issue with. Just trump being a showman cunt.

Okay - Where in his Statement does he say that:

Trump, I don't really like travelling to the US. It's a bit boring, but I confess that there are some commendable things. I like going to the Black neighborhoods of Washington, where I saw a fight in the US capital between Blacks and Latinos with barricades, which seemed like nonsense to me, because they should join together.

I confess that I like Walt Whitman and Paul Simon and Noam Chomsky and Miller.

I confess that Sacco and Vanzetti, who have my blood, are memorable in the history of the USA and I follow them. They were murdered by labor leaders in the electric chair, by the fascists who are within the USA as well as within my country.

I don't like your oil, Trump. It's going to wipe out the human species because of greed. Maybe one day, with a glass of whiskey that I accept, despite my gastritis, we can talk frankly about this, but it's difficult because you consider me part of an inferior race and I'm not, nor is any Colombian.

So, if you know someone who is stubborn, that's me, period. You can try to carry out a coup with your economic strength and your arrogance, like they did with Allende. But I will die true to my principles, I resisted torture and I resist you. I don't want slavers next in Colombia, we already had many and we freed ourselves. What I want next in Colombia are lovers of freedom. If you can't join me, I'll go elsewhere. Colombia is the heart of the world, and you didn't understand that, this is the land of the yellow butterflies, of the beauty of Remedios, but also of the colonels like Aureliano Buendía, of which I am one, perhaps the last.

You will kill me, but I will survive in my people, which lives, before yours, in the Americas. We are peoples of the winds, the mountains, the Caribbean Sea and of freedom.

You don't like our freedom, okay. I don't shake hands with White slavers. I shake hands with the White libertarian heirs of Lincoln and the Black and White farm boys of the USA, at whose graves I cried and prayed on a battlefield, which I reached after walking the mountains of Italian Tuscany and after being saved from Covid.

They are the United States, and before them I kneel, before no one else.

Overthrow me, Mr. President, and the Americas and humanity will respond.

Colombia now stops looking north, it looks at the world. Our blood comes from the blood of the Caliphate of Cordoba, the civilization of that time, of the Roman Latins of the Mediterranean, the civilization of that time, who founded the republic, democracy in Athens; our blood comes from the Black resistance fighters turned into slaves by you. Colombia is the first free territory of America, before Washington, [before] of all America, and I take refuge in its African songs.

My land is made up of goldsmiths who worked in the time of the Egyptian pharaohs and of the first artists in the world in Chiribiquete.

You will never rule us. You're opposed to the warrior who rode our lands, shouting freedom, whose name is (Simon) Bolívar.

Our people are somewhat fearful, somewhat timid, they are naive and kind, loving, but they will know how to win the Panama Canal, which you took from us with violence. Two hundred heroes from all of Latin America lie in Bocas del Toro, today's Panama, formerly Colombia, which you murdered.

I raise a flag and as (Jorge Eliecer) Gaitán said, even if it remains alone, it will continue to be raised with the Latin American dignity that is the dignity of America, which your great-grandfather did not know, and mine did, Mr. President, an immigrant in the USA.

Your blockade does not scare me, because Colombia, besides being the country of beauty, is the heart of the world. I know that you love beauty as I do, do not disrespect it and it will give its sweetness to you.

FROM TODAY ON, COLOMBIA IS OPEN TO THE ENTIRE WORLD, WITH OPEN ARMS, WE ARE BUILDERS OF FREEDOM, LIFE AND HUMANITY.

I see nothing about Military planes or handcuffs. I do, however, see lots of references to leftist talking points - Calling everyone you dont like Fascists, Just Stop Oil etc.

In breaking news, Tulsi Gabbard has been found in direct communication with Putin. Disgustingly She has passed over lots of sensitive secrets directly to him. Treason charges to come.

Sauce?

[TheDemonLord]

It works? If you think a 50% tariff war is a win!

Yes, it did work.

The people were deported.

All of the supposed reasons why Deportation couldnt work evaporated like a fart in the wind when faced with a determined political will to carry out the policy(s) that he was elected on.

And yes, if that includes threatining a 50% tariff, so be it - Trump raised the stakes, Colombia folded.

[pritch]

It works? If you think a 50% tariff war is a win!

Yeah it's all smoke and mirrors. There were 475 flights returning illegal immigrants to Colombia under Biden. In the interests of propaganda there is currently a frenzy of activity aimed at producing exciting video clips for his educationally subnormal supporters. There are clips of armed troops rushing to the border, military helicopters patrolling, and then we had huge military transports attempting to fly 80 people in handcuffs to Bogota at vast expense. Shame that all that expense was for nothing.

A return to normal charter flights will simply mean business as usual except that Trump has manufactured some exciting footage.

Meanwhile the orange crop which should be mid harvest is still hanging on trees because the undocumented workers who do the work are frightened to appear. Apparently most US agriculture relies on undocumented workers. Like Trump's golf clubs.