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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    As an aside, considering the magas have been banging on about how DEI needs to go (it does), their main point has been hires need to be color blind and based solely on merit. With this in mind - can you please watch the mercifully short video below - the man who turns up at the 20 second mark - can you please point to the qualifications he has gained that made him the most qualified person based on merit to hold one of the most consequential jobs in the US Government? I'm sure the american people look forward to your answer with much relish - well, at least for the time they can still afford to buy relish.
    I was wondering for twenty seconds who this might be. Aaaaand it's Pete Kegbreath. You chose well but there are other nominations equally absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    So - again, I am re-iterating arguments I have heard made from this perspective around Immigration. I feel though it is fair to point out that many other countries have cheap food, well-established agricultural bases and do not rely on mass illegal labour.
    Why? that point has already been debunked as no country has a comparable situation that the USA finds itself in.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Given what we saw under the previous administration *cough* Afghanistan withdrawal *cough* - you could put a fried chicked in that position and it would be a marked improvement.
    The mango chicken did a bang up job of releasing over 5,000 Taliban prisoners captured at eye watering expense for negligible return other than kicking the can down the road for the next poor fucker to deal with. Hmmmm, releasing shit loads of prisoners, it's almost like a theme is developing there

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I dont have a dog in that particular fight though - but I do want to share this video - I mentioned a channel Sub Brief that deals with Naval News - Here, he talks about the failings of the Coast Guard, now - put the DIE stuff to the side, the reasons he outline seem to me more than sufficient to replace someone in the top job.
    Oooooook, well it is safe to assume that a hacker did not take over your kb account, then go on to do a spectacular job of impersonating your style while posting anti DEI and trumps appointees are great posts - I can only surmise that this was a typo from you. Let me helpfully correct that for you. "My dog died in this fight".

    Though you do get extra maga points for pulling a fast "look over there" distraction. It is funny, when ever I see these maga look over there tropes - this is what I see in my minds eye.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Oooooook, well it is safe to assume that a hacker did not take over your kb account, then go on to do a spectacular job of impersonating your style while posting anti DEI and trumps appointees are great posts - I can only surmise that this was a typo from you. Let me helpfully correct that for you. "My dog died in this fight".
    Trump's dimwit lawyer Alina Habba made the same mistake on TV. Dyslexia rulez.
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    Thanks Sugilite.....some good points made there.

    Pritch...I would vote for you too.

    TDL.....not so much....hey whats that behind you? Its a wall of text, isn't it?

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    The Governor of Illinois has signed an order prohibiting J6ers from State employment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1/32 man View Post
    Thanks Sugilite.....some good points made there.

    Pritch...I would vote for you too.

    TDL.....not so much....hey whats that behind you? Its a wall of text, isn't it?
    In fairness to TDL, those walls of text would be a lot more effective at keeping migrants out compared to trumps meager offerings.

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    Here is a link to a factual documentary.
    I have not fact checked it myself but seems legit…
    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15FiuRiw1K/
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Why? that point has already been debunked as no country has a comparable situation that the USA finds itself in.
    Exactly comparable - No, sure.

    But I think to make the claim that the US is so unique as to not be able to draw comparisons - that is a bit weak.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    The mango chicken did a bang up job of releasing over 5,000 Taliban prisoners captured at eye watering expense for negligible return other than kicking the can down the road for the next poor fucker to deal with. Hmmmm, releasing shit loads of prisoners, it's almost like a theme is developing there
    We had nearly 4 years of relative Peace in the middle east. No US Service members died - we had a general de-escalation of conflicts. I know you dont give any credit here - but I do and I think that counts for something.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Oooooook, well it is safe to assume that a hacker did not take over your kb account, then go on to do a spectacular job of impersonating your style while posting anti DEI and trumps appointees are great posts - I can only surmise that this was a typo from you. Let me helpfully correct that for you. "My dog died in this fight".
    I am not invested in Pete Hegseth - so I have not looked into him or evaluated whether I think he is any good. But where I do have an opinion is that a rotting cabbage could be the Sec Def and still do a better job than the Biden adminsitration.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Though you do get extra maga points for pulling a fast "look over there" distraction. It is funny, when ever I see these maga look over there tropes - this is what I see in my minds eye.....
    It was not for a Look over there - I thought it was a timely opportunity to post a clip of some of the sources I listen to - and in particular, one that touches on the topic of why a high ranking official was fired.

    One narrative is that it is because Trump hates (insert preferred group here) - but when looked at objectively, you see a myriad of failings. I put it to you that these are symptomatic of artificially promoting people using a DIE framework. Everywhere these policies get implemented on mass, we seem to see the same issues.

    There is a JBP clip that outlines it very well just from a pure stats perspective why DIE hiring has to result in a decrease in competency. Was from his Sixty Minutes interview IIRC.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1/32 man View Post
    TDL.....not so much....hey whats that behind you? Its a wall of text, isn't it?
    Well, I was right about the Election going to Trump and so far he seems to be making good on his promises. Whether or not the outcome(s) that I think will happen as a result of these policy decisions will happen is unknown - but I am hopeful.

    We have seen what happens when the US goes in one direction (it was bad) and so it stands to reason that if you go in the opposite direction it will be better.

    If it does turn out better - what then?
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    Well thanks, you did reply politely.

    Hey, look over there! Is that a rotting cabbage?

    I like that analogy so thought I would throw it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Exactly comparable - No, sure.

    But I think to make the claim that the US is so unique as to not be able to draw comparisons - that is a bit weak.
    Weak you say - ok, show me 3 other countries that are comparable to the USA then - as in had a lifetime of governments kicking the can down the road immigration wise leading to an approaching 50% of the agriculture labor force being undocumented immigrants.

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    Wow, with trump imposing 25% tariffs on friendly neighbor Canada. Imagine what he will do to countries he has many times deemed to be the enemy!


    Oh, China 10% tariff.
    President musk must of had a word in trumps ear.

    Canada should charge 25% retaliatory tariffs on the presidents personal companies - tesla and starlink.


    More to the tragic air crash that repugnant trump launched a baseless attack blaming DEI policies.

    An interesting timeline as follows....
    20/1 trump implements federal hiring freeze including air controllers.
    (The Regan airport only had one controller on, instead of the required two.)
    21/1 trump disbands the aviation security advisory committee and fired the TSA director.
    22/1 trumps officially ends DEI putting out a press release saying that will "restore excellence and safety within the federal aviation industry.
    One week later the deadliest commercial aircraft accident in the last 16 years occurs.

    trump baselesly blames dei hiring practices and then the next day says the helicopter was flying too high.
    I remember when air accident reports got released months after the crash. Now with borish motormouth and now apparent aviation crash expert tump - they come out within minutes.

    Anyways, 2 of the 3 helicopter crew have been named, a couple of very experienced white soldiers. Grossly unqualified hegsworth has not released the 3rd name. I assume that would be because the 3rd soldier is not a female brown skinned trans dwarf and thus would destroy trumps dei narrative. Hegsworth has quickly shown the reason why he was hired despite having zero demonstrable skills to do the job - he gives a mean trump hand job - sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Weak you say - ok, show me 3 other countries that are comparable to the USA then - as in had a lifetime of governments kicking the can down the road immigration wise leading to an approaching 50% of the agriculture labor force being undocumented immigrants.
    Okay - first up we have the UK:

    Lifetime of Governments kicking the can down the road - check.
    Large swathes of the manual labour market being done by Migrants of dubious legality - check.

    Next up NZ:

    Whilst our physical distance means the problem is not as bad - there have been multiple high profile cases of mainly Indian businesses using illegal migrants and treating them terribly.

    Finally - the GCC (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Dubai etc.)

    Whether or not they are legal or illegal migrants is not entirely clear, but significant parts of their economy are fuelled by Migrant labour. The way they deal with them seems to be to essentially make them second-class citizens and little more than glorified slaves. The authorities seem content to look the other way if they are in the country illegally or legally - as it doesnt matter anyway because regardless they have little to no rights.

    So, not the exact same situation - but I do believe that there are comparable situations in many places - and the claim that if the Migrants are gone, it will all collapse, to me is untenable.

    In my opening rebuttal - I started with the quote:

    If we free the slaves, who will pick the Cotton?

    The US has been in a similar situation before - where a significant economic sector relies heavily on cheap manual labour. When the Slaves were freed (yes, I will acknowledge share cropping was virtually slavery) the USA did not cease to exist. There were short-term growing pains but the net result was that the US economy grew.

    So I put it to you that if this policy is fully implemented, it will not be the Doom-and-Gloom scenario, but you will see a growth (in real terms) of the Economy. The individual worker will be better off as there will be a high demand for labour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Wow, with trump imposing 25% tariffs on friendly neighbor Canada. Imagine what he will do to countries he has many times deemed to be the enemy!


    Oh, China 10% tariff.
    President musk must of had a word in trumps ear.

    Canada should charge 25% retaliatory tariffs on the presidents personal companies - tesla and starlink.


    More to the tragic air crash that repugnant trump launched a baseless attack blaming DEI policies.

    An interesting timeline as follows....
    20/1 trump implements federal hiring freeze including air controllers.
    (The Regan airport only had one controller on, instead of the required two.)
    21/1 trump disbands the aviation security advisory committee and fired the TSA director.
    22/1 trumps officially ends DEI putting out a press release saying that will "restore excellence and safety within the federal aviation industry.
    One week later the deadliest commercial aircraft accident in the last 16 years occurs.

    trump baselesly blames dei hiring practices and then the next day says the helicopter was flying too high.
    I remember when air accident reports got released months after the crash. Now with borish motormouth and now apparent aviation crash expert tump - they come out within minutes.

    Anyways, 2 of the 3 helicopter crew have been named, a couple of very experienced white soldiers. Grossly unqualified hegsworth has not released the 3rd name. I assume that would be because the 3rd soldier is not a female brown skinned trans dwarf and thus would destroy trumps dei narrative. Hegsworth has quickly shown the reason why he was hired despite having zero demonstrable skills to do the job - he gives a mean trump hand job - sigh.
    A Policy that was actively pursued for 4 years is not going to be fully wound back in over a week.

    I am waiting for actual analysis as to what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Wow, with trump imposing 25% tariffs on friendly neighbor Canada. Imagine what he will do to countries he has many times deemed to be the enemy!
    Here's hoping the Canadians are suitably offfended. Several northern US cities rely on Canadian electricity. The Canadians should just flick the switch. Chaos and huge price increases would follow.

    Trump can't claim that DEI caused the Lear Jet crash in Philadelphia. It was returning a Mexican paediatric patient to Mexico following treatment. The 'plane and all in it were Mexican.
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