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    The President of the USA posted condolences after backing the losing team. He mentions 'the Great State of Kansas'. Pretty much everybody - except him - knows that Kansas City is in Missouri. It's not even the first time he's done that. Idiot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    The President of the USA posted condolences after backing the losing team. He mentions 'the Great State of Kansas'. Pretty much everybody - except him - knows that Kansas City is in Missouri. It's not even the first time he's done that. Idiot!
    That tweet is from 5 years ago, so probably not in reference to yesterdays Superbowl game...
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    Bugga! I didn't read the small print. Still, his failure at primary school geography still applies.
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    Another step closer to the trump "divine right of kings" - VP vance has been accused of threatening the US constitution after telling judges who have issued rulings temporarily blocking some of Donald Trump’s most contentious executive orders that they “aren’t allowed” to control the president’s “legitimate power”.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-judges-trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    That tweet is from 5 years ago, so probably not in reference to yesterdays Superbowl game...
    And the comeback was pretty shithouse this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Another step closer to the trump "divine right of kings" - VP vance has been accused of threatening the US constitution after telling judges who have issued rulings temporarily blocking some of Donald Trump’s most contentious executive orders that they “aren’t allowed” to control the president’s “legitimate power”.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-judges-trump
    And JD Vance is correct - because all the institutions that are affected fall under the Executive Branch of the Government. The President has very wide powers in that regard.

    Now, if it was directed at an institution that was created by legislation from Congress or the House - that would be a different story.

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    I can almost hear the frantic typing of a wall of text coming from tdl, but I would add, if the US has at present, the three legs of executive, courts and congress as its basis, and one of those legs (congress) will roll over at the executives whim, and the other leg (courts) has been deemed irrelevant, what is left but a faux-monarchy or dictatorship? Rule by executive order? Can the executive ignore the constitution if the are no courts that will enforce it? Will limits on presidential term go? (president for life?) I actually believe trump is to stupid to have come up with this himself, but if vance can get it over the line, trump may have a "medical emergency" soon after
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    And JD Vance is correct - because all the institutions that are affected fall under the Executive Branch of the Government. The President has very wide powers in that regard.

    Now, if it was directed at an institution that was created by legislation from Congress or the House - that would be a different story.

    Leftists complaining that they can no longer use the government to promote leftism is nought but the chirrping of Cicadas.
    So you'd be quite happy if harris was president and following this same line of action?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    I can almost hear the frantic typing of a wall of text coming from tdl, but I would add, if the US has at present, the three legs of executive, courts and congress as its basis, and one of those legs (congress) will roll over at the executives whim, and the other leg (courts) has been deemed irrelevant, what is left but a faux-monarchy or dictatorship? Rule by executive order? Can the executive ignore the constitution if the are no courts that will enforce it? Will limits on presidential term go? (president for life?) I actually believe trump is to stupid to have come up with this himself, but if vance can get it over the line, trump may have a "medical emergency" soon after
    Congress has been shirking its responsibility for decades in regards to legislation. This is something that multiple people, both left and right, have pointed out.

    However - take USAID for example - it was established by Executive Order by JFK.

    The problem is very simple - there is so much of the Federal Government that exists without a mandate from Congress or the Constitution. Trump, as President, is well within his rights to do just about whatever he wants with those institutions. Shrinking them, appointing DOGE to clear out the snouts in the Trough, firing partisan activists etc.

    That is not, however, a Faux-Monarchy - because those actions only apply to the Federal Government.

    Take the Department of Education - if Trump nukes it (some news reports suggest this is going to happen) - the responsibility of Education reverts (as it was intended to, under the Constitution) to the States - as a States Rights issue.

    If Trump declared himself president for life (dont threaten me with a good time...) he would be the first Dictator in history to shrink the Government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    So you'd be quite happy if harris was president and following this same line of action?
    An interesting question - and one that deserves a proper answer.

    So let me answer it first directly - I consider that to be exactly what Joe Biden did, and no I was not happy.

    But - before you start launching claims of Hypocrisy - there is additional detail here - that is extremely relevant.

    Firstly - what has been happening and what Trump is undoing are things that directly contradict the vision of the USA in terms of what the founding fathers envisioned and directly against principles that they outlined in the federalist papers.

    As such - I am happy for someone to return the USA to be closer to its intended structure and I am not happy for someone to stray further from that.

    Secondly - What has been uncovered is the use of Government resources and Tax Dollars to promote globalist ideas, astroturfing leftist ideas and talking points, gaslighting the general public etc. And only ever in one political direction. One could, perhaps, accept this behavior if for every Dollar spent at Politico, an equal Dollar was spent at the Daily wire.

    But that has not happened.

    When it comes to the function of Government, I expect it to be Politically neutral - or at least, mostly politically neutral. I dont mean the Policy of the Elected Government - I mean the function. Imagine if you went to get a Drivers License but were denied because of who you voted for.

    Funding and supporting exclusively Left-Wing groups and Ideas has the same problem.

    I went on for years pointing out the Left-Wing bias of Censorship amongst Social Media companies - Lo and Behold, the Twitter files proved me right, Lo and Behold, DOGE proved me right.

    I don't use the verbiage much - but when Trump talks about the Swamp, when people talk about the Deep State - what we saw with USAID is exactly what we are talking about. Entire Government departments, run exclusively by Left-Wing Activists, who abuse the power of the office that they hold to push their ideas.

    So to answer your question more fully: Trump cleaning house and either removing those people or simply closing those activist Offices is returning the US Government to a politically neutral setting.

    Therefore, what Trump is doing and what Kamala would do (or Biden did do) - despite superficially being the same, are drastically different. One I support - the other I do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    I . . f, but if vance can get it over the line, trump may have a "medical emergency" soon after
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    Hey let's give credit where it is due. Why do they still have Pennies?
    We got rid of 5Cent pieces, how long ago?

    Of course I'd ask the question "what is the implication " and "why is the President pushing this?'

    Still. Seems the most harmless and sensible thing he has done. Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    And JD Vance is correct - because all the institutions that are affected fall under the Executive Branch of the Government. The President has very wide powers in that regard.

    Now, if it was directed at an institution that was created by legislation from Congress or the House - that would be a different story..
    ok a different story - CFPB (Consumer Finance Protection Bureau) "...its creation was included in the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, which was passed by Congress and signed by Obama in 2010." So Musk and his muskrats have shut this agency down, no cause from alarm there either? See Kickahas post #1012 on the Unmasking Elon Musk thread
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