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    He's of course taking notes from his boss on how to hold onto power.
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    I see what you did there TDL.

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    Pete Kegbreath Secretary of Defence and town drunk, has been claiming that the US military is now a meritocracy. DEI is dead. That will be why he was appointed to Trump's cabinet from a weekend talking head position on FOX. That'll also be why his younger brother has been appointed to a senior advisor position at the Pentagon despite having no relevant qualifications or experience. Kegbreath the younger's entire career to date has been involved with podcasting.

    Pete has also been towing his wife around a series of high level international meetings. In case you are wondering that is not normal. Not even close.
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    What does our resident US Constitution expert have to say about trump claiming he can have a third presidential term?
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    To be fair, he's not claiming he can yet (from what I've seen), just looking into whether he could. I was reading yesterday that there are a couple ways he could, have maybe Vance run for office and then have him step down and hand the presidency to Trump or change to the constitution (which then support numbers wouldn't be there for him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    To be fair, he's not claiming he can yet (from what I've seen), just looking into whether he could. I was reading yesterday that there are a couple ways he could, have maybe Vance run for office and then have him step down and hand the presidency to Trump
    No - this potential loophole is invalidated by the 12th Amendment redefining the procedure to elect the president and vice president, experts said. This earlier amendment, ratified in 1804, states that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.” This means that, because he would have already served two terms, Trump would be barred from running as president and thus also barred from being vice president.

    or change to the constitution (which then support numbers wouldn't be there for him)
    Agree, unlikely as amending the Constitution to abolish the two-term limit would be exceedingly difficult, requiring either a two-thirds vote of Congress or two-thirds of the states agreeing to call a constitutional convention to propose changes. Either route would then require ratification from three-quarters of the states.

    A third method would involve just riding roughshod over the Constitution , with the S/C as backup, and that might just lead to a civil war
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    No - this potential loophole is invalidated by the 12th Amendment redefining the procedure to elect the president and vice president, experts said. This earlier amendment, ratified in 1804, states that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.” This means that, because he would have already served two terms, Trump would be barred from running as president and thus also barred from being vice president.
    Yes this was mentioned in the article I read but they had a counter to that which I'll quote from another source -

    Other legal experts, however, point to the last sentence of the 12th Amendment, which covers the Electoral College, as a roadblock for any twice-elected president attempting to return to the White House through the vice presidency. It says that "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

    Still, in court, a lawyer could try to argue that being a "natural born" citizen, at least 35 years old and a resident within the U.S. for at least 14 years are the only presidential eligibility requirements specified in the Constitution, says Stephen Gillers, a professor emeritus at New York University School of Law, who proposed in 2004 that Clinton run for vice president.
    Typically, all down to interpretations, the devil is in the detail. This article does cite another way he could though -

    The federal government-sanctioned record of interpretations of the Constitution also points to the possibility of a former two-term president serving as speaker of the House of Representatives or as another federal officer who could become president through the Presidential Succession Act of 1947.
    Interpretations again.

    https://www.npr.org/2025/03/31/nx-s1...r-a-third-term

    I guess only time will truly tell. Makes for a controversial topic though right!

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    Actually the idea of appointing Trump Speaker of the House was floated before he was officially the Republican nominee for this last election. The Speaker is not required to be an elected representative. Slightly weird because the House Speaker is only two heart beats away from being president. (The VP is only one heart beat away.)
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    April 2 2025 will be judgement day, Independence Day, or as Trump calls it liberation day. What could be so powerful that he didn’t want to announce on April fools day????

    1-Tie dollar back to gold like JFK wanted???
    2-Exit NATO???
    3-End income tax
    4-EXIT UN and WHO
    5-Amend Constitution
    6-Bring all troops home and close foreign bases????
    7-Declare himself emperor of the world or something equally crazy???
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    No - this potential loophole is invalidated by the 12th Amendment redefining the procedure to elect the president and vice president, experts said. This earlier amendment, ratified in 1804, states that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.” This means that, because he would have already served two terms, Trump would be barred from running as president and thus also barred from being vice president.
    True, but Trump is banned from being elected president under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Yet here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    True, but Trump is banned from being elected president under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Yet here we are.
    Clearly not...
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    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/na...box=1743531598

    Funnily enough, there's people up in arms saying this is racist. I don't think the republican supporters are a race but could be mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/na...box=1743531598

    Funnily enough, there's people up in arms saying this is racist. I don't think the republican supporters are a race but could be mistaken.
    Racist?

    No.

    Discriminatory?

    Absolutely.

    The irony is hilarious.
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    Trump has announced plans to scrap the Department of Education. Naturally the MAGA politicians are applauding this move. The same States that fill the bottom rungs of the states listed by educational attainment.

    1. West Virginia

    2. Mississippi

    3. Louisiana

    4. Arkansas

    5. Nevada

    6. New Mexico

    7. Alabama

    8. Oklahoma

    9. Texas

    10. South Carolina

    These are the states where religious nutters tend to fill high positions. Like the dude in Oklahoma who wants to spend big bucks putting bibles in every classroom. Trump bibles no less. It's all a glorious crime spree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Trump has announced plans to scrap the Department of Education. Naturally the MAGA politicians are applauding this move. The same States that fill the bottom rungs of the states listed by educational attainment.

    1. West Virginia

    2. Mississippi

    3. Louisiana

    4. Arkansas

    5. Nevada

    6. New Mexico

    7. Alabama

    8. Oklahoma

    9. Texas

    10. South Carolina

    These are the states where religious nutters tend to fill high positions. Like the dude in Oklahoma who wants to spend big bucks putting bibles in every classroom. Trump bibles no less. It's all a glorious crime spree.
    Surely that's to be expected when you elect a convicted criminal as president
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