Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[TheDemonLord]

I never read it. So ... nothing proved ..

Sorry.

Then that would be a default in my favour...

[jasonu]

Bugga Currently a series of Trump's investigations are coming to a conclusion in time for the election, and there were quite a few, but they are all coming up blank.

What does that tell you?

[pritch]

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton famously said, "I'm not part of whatever drug deal Giuliani and Mulveney are cooking up." A Giuliani' "drug deal" has appeared on the front page of the New York Post, a Murdoch owned tabloid, with all that implies. Twitter and Facebook have banned the story. Twitter block the account of anyone who quotes it.

Republican politicians are outraged and want to subpoena Jack Dorsey CEO of Twitter. This after having ignored subpoenas for the last four years.

The story would have people believe the paper has "smoking gun" emails. The story, involving a blind computer tech (named Mac?), is already changing, and the emails are pdf files not actual emails so there is none of the associated electronic data that should be attached. To make the story perfect, Giuliani's source is believed to be Russian intelligence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...-hunter-biden/

Or you could read the NY Post.

[TheDemonLord]

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton famously said, "I'm not part of whatever drug deal Guliani and Mulveney are cooking up." A Giuliani' "drug deal" has appeared on the front page of the New York Post, a Murdoch owned tabloid, with all that implies. Twitter and Facebook have banned the story. Twitter block the account of anyone who quotes it.

Republican politicians are outraged and want to subpoena Jack Dorsey CEO of Twitter. This after having ignored subpoenas for the last four years.

The story would have people believe the paper has "smoking gun" emails. The story, involving a blind computer tech (named Mac?), is already changing, and the emails are pdf files not actual emails so there is none of the associated electronic data that should be attached. To make the story perfect, Giuliani's source is believed to be Russian intelligence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...-hunter-biden/

Or you could read the NY Post.

I'm reserving judgement on the Email story, until more information comes to light. However, Twitter and Facebook quite clearly seem to be acting as Editors, rather than a Platform.

Or perhaps an issue closer to home: Facebook disabling the Advance NZ Party Facebook page. I shall be clear, I don't like Advance NZ and I think Jamie-Lee Curtis is a twat of the highest order.

Surely, shutting down the Facebook page of another countries Political Party 3 days before a general election would be considered interfering with the Election of another sovereign nation, regardless of whether they are likely or unlikely to get into Parliament.

Whichever way you slice it, this is wrong and is likely to have repercussions.

[sugilite:Me]

Come now, you should know better than to attribute things to me that I've said in the past (sometimes years in the past), I've got a nasty habit of remembering what I said and being able to use the search function.

I never said there is no right wing version of ANTIFA:



I admit they exist - but they are for the most part inconsequential, being characterized as:

OK, I'm sure in the BLM discussion you were saying there is no right wing counterparts to ANTIFA/blm prtest violence/killings etc. But I'll retract happily.

Onto other news (not directed at you)

I'm loving this shit below
"Tucker Carlson called it a "domestic spying operation" that was "hidden under the pretext of national security." Laura Ingraham characterized top Obama administration officials as having been "exposed." And Sean Hannity flatly declared it to be the "biggest abuse of power, corruption scandal" the country had ever seen."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/14/m...ate/index.html

But nope it is a big nothing.
Republicans like to make out that the Mueller report was a hoax despite listing 10 points of obstruction by Trump and multiple arrests just because Mueller chose not to indict a sitting President.
Barr comes out with a wet fart and its crickets from fox
Betting that other investigations comes up pretty much the same.
Now Trump is threatening Barr, the man that saved him from maga Russian probe fallout. And Mr Obstruction Trump now wants answers from Biden
Hilarious stuff

But yeah, it's just the lefties press that are over the top eh

I actually read fox news way more than the left wing mob, but mostly for the reader comments comedy. Its Magalerious!

[Katman]

Or perhaps an issue closer to home: Facebook disabling the Advance NZ Party Facebook page. I shall be clear, I don't like Advance NZ and I think Jamie-Lee Curtis is a twat of the highest order.

Surely, shutting down the Facebook page of another countries Political Party 3 days before a general election would be considered interfering with the Election of another sovereign nation, regardless of whether they are likely or unlikely to get into Parliament.

Whichever way you slice it, this is wrong and is likely to have repercussions.

Well there you go - there's something else we agree on.

[Katman]

But I'll retract happily.

You seem to be having to do that a lot these days.

[sugilite:Me]

You seem to be having to do that a lot these days.

Maybe I'm one of the few around here with the courage to admit when I get things wrong.

[pritch]

Maybe I'm one of the few around here with the courage to admit when I get things wrong.

Sometimes you do seem a bit too keen to do that, or perhaps to see good in people where little exists.

Imagine if you will a purely hypothetical scenario where perhaps someone claimed the only reason they disliked illegal immigrants was because they were illegal. You might be inclined to respect their opinion. I on the other hand would be more inclined to think they might be full of shit. If, for instance, they were then to include words like boongahs or coons in subsequent posts, I would feel completely justified in my assessment.

You may well be a nicer person than am I. (Space left here for inane comment from the cheap seats.)

All of which is purely speculation of course.

[TheDemonLord]

Imagine if you will a purely hypothetical scenario where perhaps someone claimed the only reason they disliked illegal immigrants was because they were illegal. You might be inclined to respect their opinion. I on the other hand would be more inclined to think they might be full of shit.

What if the person who held that opinion was a Legal Migrant themselves, and had to spend Time, Money and Effort going through the required checks in order to Migrate.

Surely they would be entirely justified in being upset at people bypassing the system they had to go through in order to gain entry to the country.

[Katman]

Maybe I'm one of the few around here with the courage to admit when I get things wrong.

Well you seem to be getting plenty of practice.

[jasonu]

Sometimes you do seem a bit too keen to do that, or perhaps to see good in people where little exists.

Imagine if you will a purely hypothetical scenario where perhaps someone claimed the only reason they disliked illegal immigrants was because they were illegal. You might be inclined to respect their opinion. I on the other hand would be more inclined to think they might be full of shit. If, for instance, they were then to include words like boongahs or coons in subsequent posts, I would feel completely justified in my assessment.

You may well be a nicer person than am I. (Space left here for inane comment from the cheap seats.)

All of which is purely speculation of course.

But you said you had me on ignore.....

[Berries]

Surely, shutting down the Facebook page of another countries Political Party 3 days before a general election would be considered interfering with the Election of another sovereign nation, regardless of whether they are likely or unlikely to get into Parliament.

Whichever way you slice it, this is wrong and is likely to have repercussions.

It's only Facebook.

[pritch]

I'm reserving judgement on the Email story, until more information comes to light. However, Twitter and Facebook quite clearly seem to be acting as Editors, rather than a Platform.

Or perhaps an issue closer to home: Facebook disabling the Advance NZ Party Facebook page. I shall be clear, I don't like Advance NZ and I think Jamie-Lee Curtis is a twat of the highest order.

Surely, shutting down the Facebook page of another countries Political Party 3 days before a general election would be considered interfering with the Election of another sovereign nation, regardless of whether they are likely or unlikely to get into Parliament.

Whichever way you slice it, this is wrong and is likely to have repercussions.

You may be indulging in a bit of hysterical pearl clutching there. Both facebook and Twitter have frequently been criticised for their "hands off" policy. Both are aware that times are far from normal. They've had brain storming sessions in an effort to predict possible serious aberrant behaviour during the US election. Both have now come up with a list of topics which will be immediately blocked. One quoted example is if "someone" was to prematurely declare victory in the upcoming election, that will be instantly shut down.

That they did something similar to an NZ political party is interesting, the stated reason that Advance NZ were repeatedly spreading misnformation about COVID19 sounds OK to me. That has caused major problems in the US and was starting to be adopted by our local idiot fringe.

[TheDemonLord]

You may be indulging in a bit of hysterical pearl clutching there.

I'm not sure how you can class it as hysterical pearl clutching, when they actually did it.

Both facebook and Twitter have frequently been criticised for their "hands off" policy.

By Whom?

Oh, you mean by the rabid left-wing Twitterazzi and verified blue-check marks who are constantly calling for opinions they don't like to be censored.

YBoth are aware that times are far from normal. They've had brain storming sessions in an effort to predict possible serious aberrant behaviour during the US election. Both have now come up with a list of topics which will be immediately blocked. One quoted example is if "someone" was to prematurely declare victory in the upcoming election, that will be instantly shut down.

That they did something similar to an NZ political party is interesting, the stated reason that Advance NZ were repeatedly spreading misnformation about COVID19 sounds OK to me. That has caused major problems in the US and was starting to be adopted by our local idiot fringe.

It's really simple:

"We are not Publishers, we are not the arbiter of what is True or False, it's up to individual users to decide for themselves. We will continue to mitigate the spread of illegal content and that's it"

But I digress, all they are doing is making a Rod for their own back and when the legislation happens and they start complaining, I'll be standing there, smiling and whispering:

"We warned you this would happen and you didn't listen, and now you've got what you deserve"