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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee View Post
    who takes a gun to a 'peaceful protest'.
    Erm, Trumps brownshirts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee View Post
    who takes a gun to a 'peaceful protest'.
    Mostly Americans. They have "a God given right under the Second Amendment". (Although they do seem to be confused about God.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Mostly Americans. They have "a God given right under the Second Amendment". (Although they do seem to be confused about God.)
    "In Dog We Thrust" is the official national motto of the United States.....

    It's even whats on their money. There money has been in the news as the Germans are under increasing pressure to pull out a lot of gold from the US (like 1200 ton)and lots of countries are getting out of US Treasury bonds.
    The US is no longer deemed as safe and secure or a stable platform, Much like their leader...

    This has led to a surge in gold prices. As on the TV tonight.
    Central banks worldwide have aggressively increased gold purchases for several years to diversify their reserves and reduce reliance on the U.S. dollar and U.S. assets
    This structural shift, or "de-dollarisation", this is all deriven by concerns over U.S. fiscal sustainability, rising national debt, and the potential for geopolitical sanctions.

    Gold Surpasses Bonds: For the first time in nearly 30 years, the value of gold held by foreign central banks (approaching $4 trillion) has surpassed their holdings of U.S. Treasuries (around $3.9 trillion).

    German Gold Calls: German economists and some politicians are renewing calls to bring home the remaining 1,236 tonnes of German gold, valued at approximately €164 billion, stored at the U.S. Federal Reserve in New York, citing the "unpredictability" of the U.S. administration as a major risk. The German central bank, the Bundesbank, already completed a major repatriation operation between 2013 and 2020.

    Treasury Exodus: Major foreign holders like China and the BRICS nations have been reducing their U.S. Treasury holdings for various reasons, including managing their own currencies and diversifying assets. However, a mass, coordinated sell-off is considered risky for all parties involved, as it would cause global financial instability.

    Gold as a Hedge: Gold is increasingly seen as a reliable hedge against market volatility and as an asset with no contra risk, displacing the traditional role of long-dated government bonds in some portfolios

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...from-us-vaults

    https://www.kitco.com/news/article/2...onomists-renew
    https://english.elpais.com/economy-a...nst-trump.html



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    some of these protesters have let all common sense go out the window

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    Yes I guess that happens when people get angry that in the land of the free, a Totalitarian regime are acting in a North Korean fashion to suppress the public.

    This isn't about immigrants, it is about intimidating the public to "Comply" so they stay quiet and don't complain about future actions.

    If they keep their heads down and say nothing maybe nothing bad will happen to them.

    Stalin used tge same approach with ratchet of more control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee View Post
    some of these protesters have let all common sense go out the window
    So what you are saying is ''You also had some very fine people on both sides''

    but Funny how alt right conistitional remearks dont apply like the First Amendment you are supposed rto have which is meant to protect your right to assemble and express your views through protest.
    Or the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, ratified in 1791, protects the right to keep and bear arms.
    which also restricts both federal and state governments from infringing upon this right.



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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee View Post
    who takes a gun to a 'peaceful protest'. if you go looking for trouble you just might find it
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    "In Dog We Thrust" is the official national motto of the United States.....
    It's even whats on their money.
    The money is relatively recent in the overall scheme of things. Introduced in 1956 the words "In God we trust" replaced the words 'E pluribus unum'.

    Meanwhile back in Minnesota... ICE attempted to enter the Ecuadorean consulate and threatened an official with arrest. To be fair there were brown people speaking Spanish so obviously they must be illegal immigrants. /s Ecuador has registered an offical protest with the US Government.

    The ignorance knows no bounds: idiot level gun handling skills, throwing gas grenades up wind, murdering innocents, now they are trying to invade foreign territory?



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    Be hard to find an official in the white house to launch an official complaint.

    Wot a bunch of muppets.
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    Back to the don, I think this song was aimed at Bush but applies to arsetrumpet as he increasingly Does a Biden

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    Meanwhile, the leader just talks away
    Stutterin' and mumblin' for nightly news to replay
    The rest of the world watchin', at the end of the day
    Both scared and angry, like, "What did he say?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pursang View Post
    ICE Recruits, Graduation Class 2025 photo?
    Now, for a good comparison, can you show the part where these individuals are actively obstructing federal agents?

    No?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Now, for a good comparison, can you show the part where these individuals are actively obstructing federal agents?

    No?
    'Actively obstructing' is stretching it. At least watch the video clips before you comment. He went to the assistance of a woman who had been pushed to the ground and pepper sprayed. He was then attacked by group of federal agents/unemployable fuckwits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    'Actively obstructing' is stretching it. At least watch the video clips before you comment. He went to the assistance of a woman who had been pushed to the ground and pepper sprayed. He was then attacked by group of federal agents/unemployable fuckwits.
    Whether I have or have not watched the video is immaterial to the fact.

    Let me argue the point based on the events as you, yourself have articulated them:

    a woman who had been pushed to the ground and pepper sprayed
    In the US Context (and the same for NZ as well, mind) when the Police use physical force to inhibit your movement, then you are detained. Pepper spray represents the use of force by the police to incapacitate - therefore when it is used - it counts as being detained.

    He went to the assistance of...
    Assisting someone who has been detained is almost always considered obstructing.

    In the case of someone being pepper sprayed and pushed to the ground - helping them to their feet would be considered helping them flee.

    Based on the events purely as you've described them - he was actively obstructing Federal agents.

    What happened next is more up for debate - FWIW - it seems there was a massive over-reaction on the part of ICE.

    However, given the mass mobilizations that are being actively pushed and supported by politicians, the media and other agitators - there is a significant amount of blame on the shoulders of the left for this.

    And I have to ask the question: When did enforcing immigration law and deporting people who are not in the country legally become such a controversial subject?

    Before you argue 'It's the way it is being done that is the problem, not the Law', the people that are protesting and interfering with Federal agents do not believe that - they believe that all immigration law is exlcusionary and therefore wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pursang View Post
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    ICE Recruits, Graduation Class 2025 photo?
    No one who wants to be peaceful shows up at a protest with a firearm that is loaded with two full magazines! That is not a peaceful protest,"

    FBI chief Kash Patel
    Border Patrol commander Greg Bovino said Saturday that "this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement."


    Trump appointee under Pam Bondi Bill Essayli, a federal prosecutor in California, said on X that "if you approach law enforcement with a gun, there is a high likelihood they will be legally justified in shooting you. This is a the trump sycophant that can’t even call himself acting U.S. attorney anymore after a judge ruled in October he was “not lawfully serving” in the position since he was never formally appointed in the first place.....


    The NRA have even issued a statement against the trump administration FFS...
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnvg812n01no



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