Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[pritch]

Should have added absolute power in his own mind, in his own reality

Actually just prior to the election this was a major concern for some people. It's highly classified and not usually mentioned, except that Trump tweeted reference to it as soon as he was briefed - of course. The president has huge "emergency powers," pretty much no limits. There was the worry that he would declare such an emergency prior to the election with the intention of stopping it.

[TheDemonLord]

Actually just prior to the election this was a major concern for some people. It's highly classified and not usually mentioned, except that Trump tweeted reference to it as soon as he was briefed - of course. The president has huge "emergency powers," pretty much no limits. There was the worry that he would declare such an emergency prior to the election with the intention of stopping it.

What an Interesting post, Pritch...



That the president whom 'everyone' was worried would be a Dictator, would seize powers for himself, manufacture an Emergency etc. when faced with a global emergency that world leaders were falling over themselves to strip citizens of their rights and grant themselves 'emergency powers'...



Trump didn't.





And don't you find that interesting, that all the 'experts' that had 'diagnosed' Trump and determined his 'Character flaws', were utterly wrong in their predictions?

[pritch]

What an Interesting post, Pritch...

That the president whom 'everyone' was worried would be a Dictator, would seize powers for himself, manufacture an Emergency etc. when faced with a global emergency that world leaders were falling over themselves to strip citizens of their rights and grant themselves 'emergency powers'...

Trump didn't.

And don't you find that interesting, that all the 'experts' that had 'diagnosed' Trump and determined his 'Character flaws', were utterly wrong in their predictions?

Utterly wrong in their predictions? He is hiding in the White House unable to process his loss, behaving exactly like the three year old toddler he has been assessed to be.
Your argument is about as convincing as saying that he's OK because he hasn't actually nuked anybody yet. He's still got until noon 20 January.

Purely a guess on my part, but the reason for his reluctance "to strip citizens of their rights" was simply because that might panic the stock market.

[TheDemonLord]

Utterly wrong in their predictions? He is hiding in the White House unable to process his loss, behaving exactly like the three year old toddler he has been assessed to be.

Oh? Has the Electoral college cast it's vote yet? I must have missed that?

Oh, they haven't? So he's not lost anything yet? And his behaviour is entirely rational?

Your argument is about as convincing as saying that he's OK because he hasn't actually nuked anybody yet. He's still got until noon 20 January.

Which puts him in better moral standing than every president in my lifetime (that is, not starting a new War, not nuking)

Purely a guess on my part, but the reason for his reluctance "to strip citizens of their rights" was simply because that might panic the stock market.

So, he takes a libertarian, free market and federalist approach to things, and then you wonder why I like him.

But to re-iterate it - there's a certain Irony that must even resonate with you, that the Man that everyone called a wannabe dictator, fascist etc. has acted in a less authoritarian manner than his Peers.

[pritch]

Oh? Has the Electoral college cast it's vote yet? I must have missed that?

Oh, they haven't? So he's not lost anything yet? And his behaviour is entirely rational?

The electoral college does not dictate the timing of the transition. There have been several instances of presidential elections being in dispute, but I've not read of another where the incumbant lost and just refused to accept reality. In Trump's own words 306 to 232 is a landslide.

I'd be concerned for anybody who considered his behaviour rational, their grip on reality would appear tenuous.

[TheDemonLord]

The electoral college does not dictate the timing of the transition. There have been several instances of presidential elections being in dispute, but I've not read of another where the incumbant lost and just refused to accept reality. In Trump's own words 306 to 232 is a landslide.

But he hasn't lost.

Not until the Electoral College actually vote.

Until all the Lawsuits, disputes etc. are settled and that process happens, no one has won or lost anything.

And I think it's time to bring up again Bush V Gore - where Al Gore was declared by the media the winner, and referred to as the President Elect for 30? days, only for Bush to win once the actual process completed

I'd be concerned for anybody who considered his behaviour rational, their grip on reality would appear tenuous.

It's really simple - The Media doesn't get to call an Election, once you recognize that fact, his behavior is entirely rational.

[Kickaha]

his behavior is entirely rational.

Really? you cant have been paying much attention to the claims he has made

[TheDemonLord]

I'm not sure if everyone has been following the Georgia re-count.

The abridged version is that 2 counties have had instances where vote tallys that are stored on the Machine (on a USB Memory stick or similar) were not transferred and uploaded.

In each case, it was ~2,500 votes not counted (so about 5,000 total votes).

In each case, The vote tally favoured Trump - which has cut the deficit to Biden from over 14,000, to ~12,900. A decrease in Biden's lead by almost 10%.

Now, to be clear, it's not like this is making a huge difference to the overall count, but considering how small the margin is (relative to the size of the US), it's interesting - but the really interesting point is this:

Assume for the moment that there is a set margin of error for an election - and that this margin of error has a 50/50 chance of favouring one candidate over the other. From a pure stats point of view - in each case where anomalies have been picked up as part of the recount, the errors only seem to favour Biden (Not just in Georgia).

To any reasonable person, seeing cases of Human error in an Election is understandable. Seeing those errors approximately evenly affected each candidate is understandable.

Seeing errors that only go in one direction, however, is grounds to ask whether they are the result of random errors and despite a 50/50 chance, that they all swing one way, or whether there was a helping hand.

[TheDemonLord]

Really? you cant have been paying much attention to the claims he has made

We'll see, He'll either be vindicated or vilified.

[husaberg]

Utterly wrong in their predictions? He is hiding in the White House unable to process his loss, behaving exactly like the three year old toddler he has been assessed to be.
Your argument is about as convincing as saying that he's OK because he hasn't actually nuked anybody yet. He's still got until noon 20 January.

Purely a guess on my part, but the reason for his reluctance "to strip citizens of their rights" was simply because that might panic the stock market.

Declaring a countrywide state of emergency to circumvent a lack of support for the funding of his wall.

[R650R]

Actually just prior to the election this was a major concern for some people. It's highly classified and not usually mentioned, except that Trump tweeted reference to it as soon as he was briefed - of course. The president has huge "emergency powers," pretty much no limits. There was the worry that he would declare such an emergency prior to the election with the intention of stopping it.

The same was said of Bush junior and Obama at their respective elections, people were even more nervous as things like patriot act and defence authorisation act were all new.... but nothing happened...

[R650R]

....,

To any reasonable person, seeing cases of Human error in an Election is understandable. Seeing those errors approximately evenly affected each candidate is understandable.

Seeing errors that only go in one direction, however, is grounds to ask whether they are the result of random errors and despite a 50/50 chance, that they all swing one way, or whether there was a helping hand.

Word on the street is that Trump was watching the election computer machines live through the backdoors that the CIA has for when they run “other” elections.
But because that’s high classified systems he can’t even mention it...
Apparently there’s a few vids around but YouTube is deleting them fast where major news networks were having tally’s jump backwards on LIVE broadcast, but blink and you miss the software hijack hi jinks hokerybpokery witchcraft...

I don’t know if many nz viewers picked up on it but different news channels and news websites were showing different electoral vote tally’s in early stage, how can this be???

[Kickaha]

Word on the street is that Trump was watching the election computer machines live through the backdoors that the CIA has for when they run “other” elections.

Word on the street?, WTF kind of crackhead would believe that ? fuck these cunts are getting desperate making shit like that up, if the CIA had those backdoors and he could access those machines then he could rig it in his favour

[1/32 man]

The Mrs has dual citizenship, Canada and USA.
I have watched a lot, listened to a lot and now am thoroughly fucked off with the US situation and most of the Trump regime people and the GOP...

So what do I do?

Where’s the remote and what channel is CNN?

Nah, basically I have stopped paying attention to protect my state of mind.

[MaxPenguin]

Word on the street?, WTF kind of crackhead would believe that ? fuck these cunts are getting desperate making shit like that up, if the CIA had those backdoors and he could access those machines then he could rig it in his favour

Yes he could have, but that wouldn't be a good conspiracy theory.