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Donald Bush
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Well, this is awkward...
He definitely drew that, and hes definitely f*cking Satan.
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Kiwibiker
Right wing activist Charlie Kirk has just been assinated at a university in Utah. After a doge guy got car jacked in Washington DC, trump sent in troops. With Utah being a deep red state, trump has gone above and beyond by invoking republicans most powerful weapon at their disposal against gun violence - trump has 'sent in' thoughts and prayers. Awesome.
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Which side are the Fascists?
The side that have an open mic and welcome people share their differing views?
Or the side that shoot people for doing so?
One step closer to the point when peaceful men are roused to war - and the consequences will be terrible. For everyone.
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No8 Wire Extraordinaire
People with a Mic rarely want to share it with others especially if thier ideas differ.
Assassination is a complete breakdown of democracy but that genie is out of the bottle.
Guns don't kill people. Bullets do.
Slight (old joke) twist on a dumb argument. But hear me out.
What if the politicians grew some balls and made it real hard to buy bullets? Yes people stockpile and smuggling continues and 3D printing metal with home made powder etc
But in 20 years you may reduce this crime by say 1/2.
Have to start sometime.
In an ideal world. Not America obviously.
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He's the only one I've got.
Embracing mediocrity
It's something of a stretch to ascribe political ideology. Sometimes people are sufficiently negatively impacted or frightened by the philosophies espoused by such activists to the point they are inspired to take direct action, and literally shoot the messenger, from across the political spectrum.Originally Posted by TheDemonLord
It sounds like in this case it only took a couple, clearly a better shot than the would-be Trump assassin. Restricting ammunition supply probably wouldn't have helped in this situation, but could be useful in reducing casualties in the hundreds of other mass shootings every hear.
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The Majestic Metal Wizard
Put the left/right dichotomy aside for a moment.
I am not making claims as to the specific political beliefs of the shooter.
I am pointing out that the side that loudly claims persecution, is also the side committing acts of terrorism.
Think what you may about Charlie Kirk, I disagreed with him on issues such as Abortion and Religion - his schtick was inviting people from the other side to ask him questions in a live setting.
I've seen lots of glorification of his Death today. Lots of cheering. Lots of justification as to why it's okay to woop for joy at a Murder.
I've also seen lots of moderate democrats who otherwise disliked Charlie Kirk been utterly dismayed by the joyous reaction by the fringe left.
So, if we are sufficiently scared of the Jews, it's okay to take direct action.
Feel free to replace Jew with any group of your choosing.
I do not want Political Violence, because there is almost never a revolution without extreme loss of life and horrors.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Embracing mediocrity
Not saying it's okay, just noting that there is cause and effect in the situation, putting your self in public promoting extremist policies might provoke an extreme reaction from someone affected by those policies.
But you are correct that starting a war is a very costly route to achieving peace.
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The Majestic Metal Wizard
If the response to an idea is a Bullet, it's never the person speaking who is an extremist.
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Geriatric hoon
Some baseless assumptions there. We have no idea who or what the shooter was. I seem to recall the attempt on Trump was by a MAGA member of a Republican family?
The FBI Director announced that they had the shooter in custody. Wrong. The police have since arrested another suspect, at least this one had a rifle, but it was only a break barrel air rifle. He too has been released.
It must be close to ten years since I blocked Kirk and Posobiec on Twitter. The first people who pissed me off to that extent. I was no admirer of Kirk but I don't agree with his asassination either.
Kirk is quoted as saying words to the effect that some gun deaths are worth it to save the Second Amendment. That's all sorts of stupid and I guess it never crossed his mind that one of the deaths might be his own.
"Thoughts and prayers."
Of course this came to light although the actual year was 2023: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Bn7JnERNAaA
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The Majestic Metal Wizard
"I am not making claims as to the specific political beliefs of the shooter.
I am pointing out that the side that loudly claims persecution, is also the side committing acts of terrorism."
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Geriatric hoon
And I'm pointing out that's baseless because last time I looked we don't know who committed this act of terrorism.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Embracing mediocrity
Presumably the shooter couldn't hear what was being said, and it's purely coincidence that he was shot while discussing mass shootings by transgender people.
It has also been reported that the Trump administration are trying to remove the rights of transgender people to own guns, effectively by classifying them as mentally ill, presumably if they could get that classification to stick it could then also be used for other purposes.
The NRA has responded against such proposals citing 2nd amendment rights, they probably see it as the thin end of the wedge, and wouldn't want anyone reduction to the firearm purchasing population which once the precedent has been set could be expanded by future administrations to other groups.
Interesting to see if it affects the NRA support of the republican party.
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In the riders seat
Given that the majority of extremist related shooters are right leaning you must be saying is it the Republican party committing acts of terrorism and claiming persecution
"I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."
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