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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    And I'm pointing out that's baseless because last time I looked we don't know who committed this act of terrorism.
    I am not saying who either, I'm talking about the people leaping with joy at his murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    "I am not making claims as to the specific political beliefs of the shooter.

    I am pointing out that the side that loudly claims persecution, is also the side committing acts of terrorism."
    I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I am not saying who either, I'm talking about the people leaping with joy at his murder.
    There is reportedly lots of comment on X about the glee being expressed on Blue Sky. Two problems: I haven't looked at X in a long time so can't confirm anything about comments on X, I can confirm there is a lack of glee in the Blue Sky comments I've seen .

    The only people talking violence are the right. And that's not only in US media, it's true on KB too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    There is reportedly lots of comment on X about the glee being expressed on Blue Sky. Two problems: I haven't looked at X in a long time so can't confirm anything about comments on X, I can confirm there is a lack of glee in the Blue Sky comments I've seen .

    The only people taking violence are the right. And that's not only in US media, it's true on KB too.
    Some Snippets that I have seen:

    "Good Morning everyone, especially the person that shot Charlie Kirk"

    "We don't mourn Fascists in this house"

    "I'm gonna celebrate his Death"

    "Charlie Kirk was shot dead in the street like the dog he is"

    There are more odious and hate filled ones that I saw - but they have seen been moderated/deleted on various platforms.

    There are already compilation clips of people shrieking with Joy on Tik Tok/YouTube.

    What I did notice, which was interesting, was the difference in attitude between the old-school left and the current left. I did see many sentiments of:

    "I did not like the man, or any of his ideas - but Political violence is never the solution" - followed by a gaggle of radicals screeching about how killing Nazis is always justified, lick the boot some more, he had no empathy so I have none etc.

    It would be ironic, if Charlie Kirk's death was what radicalized the moderate left to shift right-wards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Some Snippets that I have seen:

    "Good Morning everyone, especially the person that shot Charlie Kirk"

    "We don't mourn Fascists in this house"

    "I'm gonna celebrate his Death"

    "Charlie Kirk was shot dead in the street like the dog he is"

    There are more odious and hate filled ones that I saw - but they have seen been moderated/deleted on various platforms.

    There are already compilation clips of people shrieking with Joy on Tik Tok/YouTube.

    What I did notice, which was interesting, was the difference in attitude between the old-school left and the current left. I did see many sentiments of:

    "I did not like the man, or any of his ideas - but Political violence is never the solution" - followed by a gaggle of radicals screeching about how killing Nazis is always justified, lick the boot some more, he had no empathy so I have none etc.

    It would be ironic, if Charlie Kirk's death was what radicalized the moderate left to shift right-wards.
    I have long suspected your reading material tended weird.

    A Democrat politician, her husband, and their dog were murdered in June. A state senator and his wife were also shot multiple times but survived. There was a school shooting the same day that Kirk was shot. Kirks death was just another day in the USA.

    The Director of the FBI is making the most of his opportunities to show what an amateur he is. Meanwhile some minimal information is becoming available. The shooter was on the roof of a parking building with another big open car park right behind him. If he had a car handy there is an airport a few minutes down the road immediately adjacent to the university.

    The photograph released by police as a person of interest shows him wearing a "disabled veteran's" T shirt. Which may or may not mean something.




    Update: The shooter dropped from the roof which seems a relatively high risk strategy. He then passed up on all the vehicles and left on foot. As per the clip released by the FBI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    I have long suspected your reading material tended weird.
    Yes, I agree - as I actually read what the Rabid and Radical left says, and you are right - they *are* weird.

    The point is, however, that there is a lot of happiness from one particular element of the Political spectrum at a political assassination.

    That you say 'Well, I didn't see it on X or Blue Sky' - I can only summize that you haven't found the activist section.

    I would, however, like to note that I saw a video from Cenk Uygur - who normally I significantly disagree with on just about every topic - that was sincere in it's condemnation of the assassination. So credit where credit is due.

    On a continuation from what I last wrote - I have observed a growing sense of 'Oh God, these people are awful' coming from Moderate Democrats on seeing the reaction of the activist wing. Seeing the Moderate Democrats pause and go 'No, killing someone for speech is a step too far' is good. Maybe this might be something unify people again.
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    Jesus fuking krist.

    Stop making this all a left vs right political party. Strawman strawman let's all set him on fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post

    Stop making this all a left vs right political party.
    Would it surprise you thaf half of the examples I posted were from people in NZ? Green and TPM Voters?

    Whilst I'd love to not make it Right vs Left, that would be dishonest.

    There is a cohort of radicals in the left that believe words are violence, that *genuinely* want a revolution and believe that Charlie was a Nazi/Fascist and therefore killing him was not merely justified - but a moral virtuous act that is to be celebrated.

    Now, sure - there are Radicals on the Right... the difference though is that they arent in the TMZ news room, they aren't professors at a University, they aren't anchors on LBC or MSNBC, they aren't protesting in the streets with foreign flags, chanting terrorist slogans.
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    Maybe we could use the numbers who vote Green and TPM (or ACT and NZ first) as an indication that the radicals are by far in the minority, I'd venture that many of the voters among those are more concerned about single issues than said radical political ideology.

    I'd never heard of Charlie Kirk before this happened.
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    22 year old, white straight male from a conservative family arrested for the shooting of Charlie Kirk, I wonder how the right will spin this

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    Kirk killer 'demographically inconvenient'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    22 year old, white straight male from a conservative family arrested for the shooting of Charlie Kirk, I wonder how the right will spin this
    Does that mean all the crap about the nasty left, including what was written here, was bullshit? Yes, I'm afraid it does.

    The shooter seems a bit loose mentally as he told his dad what he'd done. Dad consulted his religious leaders and then followed their advice and dobbed the young feller in.

    The shooter is fom a Republican family. He does seem to have spent too much time online, the words inscribed on his ammunition are thought to reference the Helldivers game.

    'Ka$h' Patel is claiming credit for the FBI and for himself which is a bit odd since they had no role in solving the crime.

    And since they can't blame the left it seems the right have largely reverted to their customary "thoughts and prayers."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    I wonder how the right will spin this
    The pro-transgender and anti-fascist engraving on the ammunition might be a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Would it surprise you thaf half of the examples I posted were from people in NZ? Green and TPM Voters?

    Whilst I'd love to not make it Right vs Left, that would be dishonest.

    There is a cohort of radicals in the left that believe words are violence, that *genuinely* want a revolution and believe that Charlie was a Nazi/Fascist and therefore killing him was not merely justified - but a moral virtuous act that is to be celebrated.

    Now, sure - there are Radicals on the Right... the difference though is that they arent in the TMZ news room, they aren't professors at a University, they aren't anchors on LBC or MSNBC, they aren't protesting in the streets with foreign flags, chanting terrorist slogans.
    Are you going to get equally upset about the assassination of the Minnesota Democratic state rep Melissa Hortman and her husband? Because Trump certainly didnt.
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