Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[sugilite:Me]

This "respectful" upstanding right wing commentator has a solution for those pesky mentally ill homeless people. Kill them by lethal injection. What a guy.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/3...thal-injection

[TheDemonLord]

If the right side where all exactly like Charlie Kirk, you would have a point - but they are not. The right are every bit as bad as the left with the old "Free speech for me but not for thee".

I am not sure I agree. Perhaps the most famous example was Joe Rogan, he got Trump on, he invited Kamala on. Kamala did not want to come on. Time and time again I see from various sources that I read/watch/listen to - that the Right wants to get the Left to come on and debate and wants to talk through issues.

Sure, some of them might have ulteriour motives of 'Owning the Libs' - but I don't see the same hesitation happening in the inverse.

Clearly you do not do the same amount of analysis on your own side. When Pelosis husband got done over the head with a hammer, even magas in the house and senate were uttering shit like you posted above, yet alone the people commenting on news site comment sections and such. When Biden announced his cancer, you should of seen what they were saying about that.
This type of sentiment has become a lot more prevalent since trump came along. There is a heck of a lot of this kind of talk from trump himself that you choose to casually write off as "trump is just being bombastic".

Okay - can you post a clip of say Fox News or similar cheering and going 'Woohoo!' at any of the events you mentioned, in the same way that TMZ did?

How about the equivalent of the Oxford Debate Society chair?

trump has no interest in ever letting the energy of unification take hold. If only you could see that. He is the great divider - it is literally his brand. Don't believe me, a quote from trump himself the other day "Donald Trump has declined to call for the US to come together as a way of fixing the country’s divisions in the wake of the assassination of his close associate, the rightwing activist Charlie Kirk, preferring to cast “vicious and horrible” radicals on the left of US politics as the sole problem."

Yes, it appears a bridge has been crossed. One side has continually called the other Nazi and Fascist etc. and has manufactured a moral justification for assassination.

Would you negotiate with a group that believed you to be an existential threat to them and who wanted you dead?

If you want to see right wing nzers doing that kind of shit, just look at the liokes of tim from whangarei youtube comment section.

And how many of those, are doing so from a Newsroom? or from a Debate Chair? Or from the Teachers Desk? or Lecturers lecturn?

That's the difference.

My god, get your head out your tribes arse, wipe the shit out your eyes and look around. The radicals on the right are in the fox, newsmax and other right wing media, they are billionaires, and some are even supreme court justices.

Are they Radicals? Are they advocating tearing down all of western society?

I'll be charitable for a moment - some of the more 'Spicy' Right wing sources that I keep tabs on, I see opinions on:

- Israel, Jews and their influence on American Politics (in much the same vein as OldRider used to post)
- Pointing to per-capita Demographic stats on things like Crime, Fatherlessness etc.
- Anti-Assimilation rhetorhic (aka 'Send them back home' - and not referring to illegal migrants)
- Anti-Abortion stances (This is more specifically from the Christian leaning sources)
- All Alphabet people are mentally ill and should be in Asylums

These views are what I would consider on the radical side. If you take the worst of them (the one about Asylums) - that is not advocating Death.

The people who hold them are not working in TMZ or being invited onto MSNBC or holding positions in Oxford.

Here is a quote from a youtube commenter with a reference to Kirks 2nd amendment comments - indeed you have shared similar sentiments right here in this forum - Kirks quote "I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

The youtubers quote "I don’t support what happened to Charlie Kirk, but Charlie Kirk supported what happened to him."

I've seen that quote a number of times, often with wild expressions of happiness.

No doubt the next quote will be from Charlie about Empathy.

[pete376403]

More Charlie quotes, from these we can obviously see a reasonable and fair commentator who sees both sides:

[Kickaha]

Here is a quote from a youtube commenter with a reference to Kirks 2nd amendment comments - indeed you have shared similar sentiments right here in this forum - Kirks quote "I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

The youtubers quote "I don’t support what happened to Charlie Kirk, but Charlie Kirk supported what happened to him."

As much as I think Charlie was a prize cunt the full discussion around that quote provides a lot better context

[TheDemonLord]

More Charlie quotes, from these we can obviously see a reasonable and fair commentator who sees both sides:

Yes, if we strip out all Context...

So, some examples:

MLK not being a good person - I believe there is an FBI recording of him having relations with a women where consent is dubious - and the guy was a known womanizer.

On Black Pilots - he's saying if the standard of competence is lowered under the guise of DEI, then people would be scared of an underqualified pilot.

On Gays being stoned to death - if you look at the full clip, he is responding to a Gay Youtuber, Rachel - who quotes Scripture as a justification. His reply is essentially "If you cite the Bible as an authority, then you also have to contend with the chapter before that says to stone Gay people to death"

British Colonialism outlawed the practice of Slavery, Head Hunting, Cannibalism and various other practices that everyone would agree are barbaric.

I could fact check all of them - but when even Kickaha admits:

"As much as I think Charlie was a prize cunt the full discussion around that quote provides a lot better context"

I trust that proves that the lists like that are half-truths abstracted from a larger discussion.