I think the hard of thinking assume that just saying the word 'evidence' several times makes it appear magically true.
No8 Wire Extraordinaire
I think the hard of thinking assume that just saying the word 'evidence' several times makes it appear magically true.
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Well it works for the Police, they call stuff evidence all the timeOriginally Posted by F5 Dave
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Evidence is interesting stuff, it can be hard or circumstantial....
In this country we've twice convicted people of murder on circumstantial evidence with no body or one body missing....
Modern conspiracy theories are great examples of circumstantial evidence, a grouping of evidential items, statements or occurrences pointing to a likely probability of X.
Then of course there's evidence that we like because it agrees with our thoughts, sometimes we don't like evidence because it confronts our safe assumptions... well all side try to dispel evidence we don't like because it threatens what one thinks is the truth, so we fight and argue...
But truth is elf evident and needs no protection, truth speaks for itself....
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The vote spikes and associated forensics should have been enough. The software, well, seriously, errors? About 20 years ago I wrote a little bit of software to digitise approximately 100 legal pages per minute. Barely had any issues (German OCR engine). Since then science has produced optics that can read an entire book without opening it. Yet some of the simplest software in the world, the company also having a history that includes producing the finest optics, was breaking under the strain of counting a little piece of paper/card with minimal markings on it, to the point where human intervention was required to fix the numbers of votes being invalidated/incorrectly processed. Perhaps I expect too much from systems that cost tens of millions of $ to count votes.
After that there's the thousands of affidavits of people who were at these place watching (lol) and watching these things take place for them to consider the action unlawful enough to stand up and be put through the ringer by dispshits that everyone accepts is corrupt (you called it normal behavior eh)
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Elf 1Well it works for the Police, they call stuff evidence all the time
Evidence is interesting stuff, it can be hard or circumstantial....
In this country we've twice convicted people of murder on circumstantial evidence with no body or one body missing....
Modern conspiracy theories are great examples of circumstantial evidence, a grouping of evidential items, statements or occurrences pointing to a likely probability of X.
Then of course there's evidence that we like because it agrees with our thoughts, sometimes we don't like evidence because it confronts our safe assumptions... well all side try to dispel evidence we don't like because it threatens what one thinks is the truth, so we fight and argue...
But truth is elf evident and needs no protection, truth speaks for itself....
Total registered voters in the US as of 2018: 153,100,000
Voter turnout is 67% of registered voters: 102,577,000
Total registered voters - Voter turnout = 50,523,000 who did not vote.
Elf 2
Biden + Trump votes = total votes cast in 2020:
81,283,485 + 74,223,744 = 155,507,229
Total registered voters - Number of votes cast = Number who did not vote
153,100,000 - 155,507,229 = -2,407,229 did not vote.
Elf 1 sees what we would expect to see. Elf 2 sees that more than 100% of eligible voters turned out to vote, 2 million more than 100%, despite 67% voter turnout having been stated.
Probability of fraud having taken place?
Geriatric hoon
Haven't actually decided whether the problem is that Trump supporters are really dim, or if it's that the people who feed them their misinformation think that they're spectacular dim. Or possibly it's both.
The RWNJs are posting maps and graphs of the US showing the counties won by Trump and the much lower number of counties won by Biden. This apparently proves, in their disordered minds, that Trump won the election. Many of those counties will have more livestock than people but let's not worry about that.
Anyhoo someone, presumably a democrat, has produced his own map in response to the Trump counties map.
Was listenng last night to someone making the case that Puerto Rico should be a state. (Washington DC and Puerto Rico are both seekng statehood.) The population of the Island is over three million which gives it a greater population than both Dakotas, Wyoming and Idaho(?) combined. Residents of Puerto Rico have no national political representation which to a large extent explains the dire state of the place.
DC has no governor which is how Barr and Trump filled it with Justice Dept "troops" some months back. Of course the Republicans hate this and describe it as "socialism'. It has nothing to do with socialism but the low information types in Trump's base react to that word like Pavlov's dogs, even though they have no idea what t means.
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Some obvious points to ponder further:
The recorded voter turnout is 67% of eligible voters, not registered voters
Total votes cast in 2016 - Clinton 65,853,625, Trump 62,985,106 = 128,838,731.
Voter turnout in 2016 is recorded as 55.4%, therefore the number of eligible voters = 234,252,224
Using the 67% above of eligible voters you end up with 156,948,990, which is pretty damn close to the total number of votes cast in 2020
See how mixing your stats lead you to a distorted/deranged conclusion.....
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My bad. I did indeed mix up the registered and eligible numbers.
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The police have a sticky position. They are trying to gather facts when people are deliberately trying to hide them. Must be frustrating as hell. Add to that, confirmation bias and you can get imperfect results.Well it works for the Police, they call stuff evidence all the time
Evidence is interesting stuff, it can be hard or circumstantial....
In this country we've twice convicted people of murder on circumstantial evidence with no body or one body missing....
Modern conspiracy theories are great examples of circumstantial evidence, a grouping of evidential items, statements or occurrences pointing to a likely probability of X.
Then of course there's evidence that we like because it agrees with our thoughts, sometimes we don't like evidence because it confronts our safe assumptions... well all side try to dispel evidence we don't like because it threatens what one thinks is the truth, so we fight and argue...
But truth is elf evident and needs no protection, truth speaks for itself....
And I think you will find that is more than twice. I don't know the stats. Hiding a body is very inconvenient.
Trump just lies like fuck and cares for no Truth. But thats not self evident to his followers.
The elves probably don't have a clue either.
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He's the only one I've got.
Geriatric hoon
Nah. Conspiracy theories usually point to an exceedingly unlikely possibility of X.
From today's news, signalling the end of a beautiful friendship?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1777212.html
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Mistakes happen, particularly when there are humans involved.
The disturbing bit is that there is a percentage of the population who would take that as fact, because it supports the view that they hold, and then absolutely reject any argument that it isn't true regardless of how factual that argument is.
Of course, there will also be occasions when these people are deliberately fed distorted facts to further reinforce their misguided beliefs.
Generally a bunch of tenuously linked facts or events, that if you try really hard can sort of prove that your bizarre hypothesis may possibly be true. Therefore proof.
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Anorak
Which means your whole premise is actually incorrect, yet you have not withdrawn your allegations....
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Geriatric hoon
Speaking of withdrawing allegations...
The companies responsible for the much mligned voting machines have finally got pissed off and initiated legal action against OAN, Newsmax, and Fox. The latter might be able to afford it, the others more recently arrived on the scene, not so much. The letters have also been sent to some individuals, Sidney Powell has one. If there is a God the newly elected Q Anon believer congresswoman should also have received one.
This list of retractions is long but seems comprehensive. It's basically everything that has been trumpeted by the unhinged and sucked up by the undiscerning. Sadly it's probably too long for the attention span of anybody who believed any of this nonsense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Ol2OJPZYY
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This former Marine colonel thinks Flynn should be recalled into the military and court martialled for incitement to insurrection. That might have to wait until Biden's inauguration though, Trump has his sycophants installed, but the clock is ticking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xARYtEal-g
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Anorak
Funny enough people forget Flynn was also fired by Obama as well as trump
Obama even warned trump
But as we know trump only hires the best people.........
Trump "I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies."
Former President Obama warned President Donald Trump against hiring Mike Flynn as his national security adviser, three former Obama administration officials tell NBC News.
The warning, which has not been previously reported, came less than 48 hours after the November election when the two sat down for a 90-minute conversation in the Oval Office.The Obama administration fired Flynn in 2014 from his position as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, largely because of mismanagement and temperament issues.
Obama’s warning pre-dated the concerns inside the government about Flynn’s contacts with the Russian ambassador, one of the officials said. Obama passed along a general caution that he believed Flynn was not suitable for such a high level post, the official added.
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Aye. When you posted your different numbers something rang a few alarm bells. Turns out I read "registered eligible voters" as eligible voters. Mystery solved. Chur... and fortunately the internet never got a hold of that one and made it fact enough to start civil war over
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