Trump

[pritch]

the catch-phrase 'You're Fired!' became a meme.

Not where I live. I've heard it of course but a "meme"? Maybe somewhere else.

He had nothing to do with running the business he was the "star".
"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."

I was unable to find any mention of the Rink and Fraud. I did see a report on the NYC website about an Audit, where it noted a number of minor issues, but it also noted (and I quote):

"we did not detect any improprieties"

From memory. The rink was managed by a relative of an employee of the Trump Organisation, and some of the payment arrangements were considered ummm unorthodox?
The same sort of unorthodox as some payment arrangements within the Trump organisation.

Anyhoo it does seem you found a successful business which was what I asked for. Well done.

[onearmedbandit]

It was even widely used against Trump during and after his presidency, let alone its widespread use before he entered into politics.

[husaberg]

It was even widely used against Trump doing and after his presidency, let alone its widespread use before he entered into politics.

Doing........

[onearmedbandit]

My mistake, 'during'.

[TheDemonLord]

The Deal: We are leaving as soon as we can, if that is ok with you guys?"
Very impressive.

"And don't kill any of the infidels that are on your sacred land in the meantime"

It's that part that is the impressive part, because they didn't.

I'm equally happy for her to be charged and judged in a court, same for Trump obviously.

And... If the same standard was applied to each side, even if I disagreed with the standard - I would still consider that fair.

Just pray she does not vote with her feet one day, hard to argue with that.

Put it this way, she puts up with me - and I'm sure you can infer that during the over 10 years we've been together, I've given her more than enough ammunition if she wanted to, but here we are.

No where near the same length of time or intensity, and not many of the ethnicity's you mention were unwilling immigrants.

Length of time sure - Intensity - maybe not the same, but I'd put the persecution of the Japanese Americans in WW2 as being in the same game (if not the same league)

And the unwillingness only goes up to 1808.

We have established BLM are frauds in it for the donations and are not helping their people at all, so why mention them and the Marxists? Was the welfare system setup and administered by white dominated governments?

Why mention the Marxists? Firstly because it's funny to point out how all African Marxist organizations descend into kleptocracy - but more importantly because they have a very long history in the Black Community.

And you can compare the 2 most prominent figures in the Civil Rights movement - MLK and Malcolm X - One made an appeal on the individualist values of the West - "Judged by the content of their character, not by the colour of their skin" - a quote that has stood the test of time because it is grounded in deeply shared ideals.

The other called for revolution, wailed against Capitalism etc and his legacy is the Black Panthers.

I'll be clear that Malcolm X never said he was a Socialist of a Marxist, but there's a fair amount of evidence that in his final years, he was accepting the basic axioms - and the revolutionary group founded as a response to his death - well, they are Marxist to the core.

Getting back to the White American Government - I mean sure, shall we open the can of worms of the Dixie-crats, Jim Crowe, the Origins of Planned Parenthood and LBJ?

Cause you'll notice a particular political slant....

So not telling them that would have solved all their problems huh?

Not telling people they are oppressed is a good start - but an even better story to tell people is the hero's story:

"The world is not perfect, bad things might happen to you - but you have it within you to strive and overcome and be the best version of yourself"

There's a reason for the existence of the Mono-Myth/hero's journy and it being the basis for the most popular stories.

[TheDemonLord]

Not where I live. I've heard it of course but a "meme"? Maybe somewhere else.

He had nothing to do with running the business he was the "star".

As above - apparently he was the executive producer and it most definitely was a Meme in the mid/late 2000s.

"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."

Almost like Groupies are a well established thing.

From memory. The rink was managed by a relative of an employee of the Trump Organisation, and some of the payment arrangements were considered ummm unorthodox?
The same sort of unorthodox as some payment arrangements within the Trump organisation.

Anyhoo it does seem you found a successful business which was what I asked for. Well done.

Glad we agree on the last part.

[sugilite:Me]

Why mention the Marxists? Firstly because it's funny to point out how all African Marxist organizations descend into kleptocracy - but more importantly because they have a very long history in the Black Community.

I'm back to being busy, so it is parapet text time on just a few points. Just assume I did not agree with very much of the rest of your posts I'm not responding too.

Had you considered the possibility that the black race was actively looking for a different political system to the one that had oppressed them and let them down badly on so many levels. Is it that surprising?
The fact the cause continually gets hijacked pretty much sums up what happens in most political ideologies, if not nearly all. Human greed sets in and the bullshit starts.

[TheDemonLord]

I'm back to being busy, so it is parapet text time on just a few points. Just assume I did not agree with very much of the rest of your posts I'm not responding too.

Hahahahaha - shall I quote myself and provide your own rebuttal to save time?

Had you considered the possibility that the black race was actively looking for a different political system to the one that had oppressed them and let them down badly on so many levels. Is it that surprising?

That's one possibility. There are others, such as Marxist thought being particularly attractive to anyone who considers themselves to be oppressed. There's also the intellectual traditions within the Black Community: Du Bois (who founded the NAACP) is a notable example. The later writings of Malcolm X, railing against Capitalism and calling for Revolution are another.

Final thought - is that there is an aspect to African American society that makes it susceptible to collectivist thinking, which is the foundation of Marxist theory - the In Group vs the Out Group - East Coast vs West Coast, Bloods vs Crips, Oppressor vs Oppressed etc. I don't know why - nor am I implying any particular reason - only that there does seem to be a higher acceptance and to greater degrees of it.

The fact the cause continually gets hijacked pretty much sums up what happens in most political ideologies, if not nearly all. Human greed sets in and the bullshit starts.

Hijacked? No. The jealousy is baked into it from the start, which is why it never ends up anywhere but destruction and bloodshed.

[pritch]

It was even widely used against Trump during and after his presidency, let alone its widespread use before he entered into politics.

Use during his residency would have been justified. He had unusually high turnover in his administration.

[sugilite:Me]

One scumbag down, just another 20 to 30 to go

[sugilite:Me]

Trump even calling mail in votes for Republican run primaries fraudulent!
https://thehill.com/news/state-watch...close-to-call/

Trump is determined to undermine democracy by crying fraud at every single election result he does not like. This does incalculable damage to democracy.
I'm sure our resident Trump lovin fan will somehow gloss over this fact

Yet more Trump admin coruption, so a few people died? No worries, the corps made more money - Weeeeeeeee!
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...y-covid-threat

At least some groups are trying to defend against actual electoral fraud - good luck with that!
https://thehill.com/regulation/court...-kind-lawsuit/

And here we have a candidate surely worthy of joining the BLM's top crookery ranks, but deciding instead to run with the big dogs of fraud - the republican party
https://www.businessinsider.com/hers...finance-2022-5

[F5 Dave]

I think you will find those deaths were really the flu and they were all 80yr old pensioners that shouldn't have been working and deaths from falling in the meat grinder (daily occurance I heard) were recorded as covid.

And it's not real or just the sniffles.


How did I get sucked in again. Best I unsubscribe. Again.

[sugilite:Me]

Well I'm shocked, Clinton authorized a political hit job on the other team
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...egations-media
Trump told Fox News Digital that the entire Russia investigation is "one of the greatest political scandals in history," and that he will "never" get his "reputation fully back."
Never mind the I'll give you your money ukraine when you give me hunter biden dirt to use Apologies in the mail for the fake birtherism attack on Obama is it? Don't worry Donald, your well earned reputation is very much still with you.

""I had to fight them off," Trump said. "And if we had real leadership, instead of people like Mitch McConnell, they would do something about it. And guys like Bill Barr. They would have done something about it."
Yeah never mind Barr was the one that kicked the investigation off that uncovered these unsurprising discoveries. Just yet more proof Trump is a thin skinned wannabe dictator out to destroy democracy and throw anyone under the bus that is not in lockstep with him. Indeed, to gain a Trump endorsement, one must declare the 2020 election as being "stolen". Not one of these republicans that have gone all in to get that endorsement is worthy of leading, nor can be trusted to do the right and just thing. They have compromised their integrity before even getting out of the starting blocks.

While some here fret over marixym taking control in the USA, the gains they have made while the Dems are in Government - has been negligible. However, right there in plain sight is Trump deeply undermining democracy. Decrying every election result he does not like as being fraudulent - even the republican run primary ones. The far lefts marxisym march to power has not even left the couch, while the far rights demolition of democracy has the finish line in sight.


American politics is rotten to the core, and more evidence of that is presented day after day.

[pritch]

One scumbag down, just another 20 to 30 to go

I blame the home schooling. His whole background was a series of lies. He popped up in my Twitter feed after he lost the primary so I sent him this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9QEAtcz3o8

In recent times he was caught twice trying to take a loaded pistol onto a 'plane. He has been caught multiple times driving without a licence. Maybe now he'll get treated like everybody else.

It won't be long before he makes the news.

[TheDemonLord]

Well I'm shocked, Clinton authorized a political hit job on the other team
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...egations-media
Trump told Fox News Digital that the entire Russia investigation is "one of the greatest political scandals in history," and that he will "never" get his "reputation fully back."
Never mind the I'll give you your money ukraine when you give me hunter biden dirt to use Apologies in the mail for the fake birtherism attack on Obama is it? Don't worry Donald, your well earned reputation is very much still with you.

""I had to fight them off," Trump said. "And if we had real leadership, instead of people like Mitch McConnell, they would do something about it. And guys like Bill Barr. They would have done something about it."
Yeah never mind Barr was the one that kicked the investigation off that uncovered these unsurprising discoveries. Just yet more proof Trump is a thin skinned wannabe dictator out to destroy democracy and throw anyone under the bus that is not in lockstep with him. Indeed, to gain a Trump endorsement, one must declare the 2020 election as being "stolen". Not one of these republicans that have gone all in to get that endorsement is worthy of leading, nor can be trusted to do the right and just thing. They have compromised their integrity before even getting out of the starting blocks.

While some here fret over marixym taking control in the USA, the gains they have made while the Dems are in Government - has been negligible. However, right there in plain sight is Trump deeply undermining democracy. Decrying every election result he does not like as being fraudulent - even the republican run primary ones. The far lefts marxisym march to power has not even left the couch, while the far rights demolition of democracy has the finish line in sight.


American politics is rotten to the core, and more evidence of that is presented day after day.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/20/p...fbi/index.html

https://nypost.com/2022/05/23/fbi-to...n-tied-lawyer/

So, now that it's becoming increasingly clear that the whole Russia Hoax was created by Clinton, I think I've got *quite* a few receipts that I'd like to get some refunds on, just the last 6 or so years of defending Trump against what I think we can now call a Hoax.

I think this video best encapsulated my feelings at the moment.



Now that I've had my 10 seconds of well-deserved gloating, I want to make a serious point to all the Trump detractors.

I've been steadfast in my support of Trump, I like him, I don't like or approve of everything he does, but on the whole, I like him.

You don't have to like Trump, nor would I insist that you like him - but I want to ask this question:

"If your opinion of Trump was initially clouded by your belief in a co-ordinated hoax against him, and that belief tainted all your subsequent opinions about him and his Presidency - is there any among you that will honestly re-assess your views?"

And the follow-up question:

"Will you re-asses your trust in a set of institutions, both Governmental, Media and alike that continually lied to you for all these years?"