Trump

[HenryDorsetCase]

This is a thread about Trump, those in support of him (for whatever reason) have just as much right to post here as those who are opposed to him. You could just ignore those who you don't agree with.

one does try, but occasionally some of the jibes provoke a response.

[Dean]

Values like lying? cheating? rape?

Republicans align more on traditional, Christian values.
The Christian faith underpins our identity - this is factual based on our consistent approach to social issues.

Trump is not perfect and makes mistakes - like all of us, everyone has lied at some point in our life.

As for cheating allegations:
One cannot comment factually on the scenario of events.
We do not know the in-depth marital issues faced in the home and what factors were at play.

Fair enough?

[wetanz]

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[Berries]

This is a thread about Trump, those in support of him (for whatever reason) have just as much right to post here as those who are opposed to him.

Nah, I started it as a piss take of him and all his batshit disciples.

[Dean]

Seriously? Family values? Marriages that last? An adjudicated rapist.

An adjudicated case relies on “preponderance of the evidence”.

Which means that the judge or jury must believe it is more likely than not (over 50%).

So for example, if a jury result showed 51% in belief of him committing the act, he is found guilty of said act.

Therefore, in my opinion, this process does not provide conclusive truthful results in all cases.

Alleged rapist

“Alleged”, you can’t draw a conclusion until anything has been proven in the criminal courts.

Fraudulently operated his charity and is now banned by the court for being involved in any charities. Has multiple fraud convictions - with more to come.

Yes money was proven to be misused - and that is not ok.

I have the opinion the funds were not used with malicious intent, but rather a case of misunderstanding and accounting mishaps. Which would be for the treasurer CFO to comment.

I have this view because of the significant amount that Trump donated to charities over the last 20 years completely, cue the pun, trumps that of this 2mill violation. Which was swiftly reimbursed to many charities.

His net worth is in the billions, 2million made up of a series of smaller transactions over a period of time is an extremely insignificant amount in comparison. Coupled with Trumps lack of oversight of accounts during his busy election period. Hence my opinion is it was a case of poor accounting.

[HenryDorsetCase]

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“Alleged”, you can’t draw a conclusion until anything has been proven in the criminal courts.


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Alla them guilty verdicts not proof enough for you?



come with me to my favourite bar and we can have a proper chat - you know where it is - its on K Road near that pedestrian crossing you deluded fucks defaced that night, remember? You know, you had all your butt cracks showing, wearing ski masks and were in a white van with no number plates? You must remember it, even though you were clearly off your tits on ketamine. Great night, huh?

[Dean]

He also has, according to a woman who suffered (briefly) from a sexual encounter with him, mushroom dick, yeti pubes, smaller than average, premature ejaculation problems.

How does *allegations* about the size of his genitals or his sexual performance have anything to do with Trump being unfit for office?

[onearmedbandit]

Nah, I started it as a piss take of him and all his batshit disciples.

And that's totally cool. But ain't no way we're censoring or outright not allowing those who support him to voice their opinion.

[Dean]

Alla them guilty verdicts not proof enough for you?

The term “alleged” does not automatically mean something is true. It is simply a statement. Therefore once cant conclude anything yet. How am I wrong on that?

come with me to my favourite bar and we can have a proper chat - you know where it is - its on K Road near that pedestrian crossing you deluded fucks defaced that night, remember? You know, you had all your butt cracks showing, wearing ski masks and were in a white van with no number plates? You must remember it, even though you were clearly off your tits on ketamine. Great night, huh?

I don’t know what you’re talking about mate.

[1/32 man]

Trump is not perfect and makes mistakes - like all of us, everyone has lied at some point in our life.

But trump lies all the time about everything....."alternative facts"
The guy is brain fucked. He believes his own bullshed and that is a dangerous thing.
He is definitely unfit ......for just about anything and everything.

But he is just the front man for the backroom money boys....poor sod.

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[Dean]

But trump lies all the time about everything....."alternative facts"
The guy is brain fucked. He believes his own bullshed and that is a dangerous thing.
He is definitely unfit ......for just about anything and everything.

But he is just the front man for the backroom money boys....poor sod.

“Lies about everything” - to say everything is a bold statement.

What proof do you have?

Lies about some things - sure, as I said he is human.

And what do you use as a benchmark to support this metric.
Are you insinuating that Kamala and co do not lie?

How much does confirmation bias play a part.
Because, it is possible that some peoples subconscious will only focus on the negative aspects of Trumps dealings (80/20).

And how much is attributed to just pure human error - being questioned and prodded by millions of people - under immense pressure - studying every word you say - to respond to something and make a mistake?

[Berries]

And that's totally cool. But ain't no way we're censoring or outright not allowing those who support him to voice their opinion.

Please don't. I am getting lots of lols from the Donald fan club.

[husaberg]

Trump made 30573 false or misleading claims as president ..
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...3e2_story.html

Final tally of lies: Analysts say Trump told 30,000 mistruths – that’s 21 a day – during presidency
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1790285.html

Here’s How Many Times Trump Lied During His Weird RNC Speech
https://newrepublic.com/post/184048/...ird-rnc-speech

[HenryDorsetCase]

How does *allegations* about the size of his genitals or his sexual performance have anything to do with Trump being unfit for office?

Ask John F Kennedy

[Dean]

Trump’s tax cut was the greatest in value in American history.

1.5 trillion - compared to:

- Obamas initial 300billion in 2009 term ERA act, followed by 400 billion in 2012 term ATR act.
- Reagan’s 81 & 86 TRA acts 750 & 500 billion respectively.
- Bush’s 2001 EGTRR of 1.35 trillion.

When you escalate Obama’s cuts by a conservative 2% CPI inflation rate YOY they still fall short of trumps 1.5trillion. Even a higher %.

As for Reagan’s, due to the high inflationary environment of the 1980’s (13.5% average) it significantly eroded the purchasing power of the dollar.

Therefore, the tax cuts impact on the economy was reduced.
So it remains to be seen the true value vs trumps cut.

As for the % of GDP argument:

- Trumps worked out to be 0.7% annually or 7% of GDP over the 10 year period.
- Bush’s 2001 EGTRR 6% over 10 year period.
- Obama at 0.2% annually.
- JFK’s 1964 at 0.3% annually.

Despite this, there are still further flaws with % of GDP - the timing of said tax cuts with the strength of the GDP.

10% of a weak GDP is less than 10% of a strong GDP.

Bush’s 2001 cut was enacted during a recession and slow recovery.
An economy that moved from 4.8% growth in 2000 to 1% flat on 2001.

Obamas 2009 tax cut was during one of the worst economic downturns for the US.
High unemployment, contracting by 2.5%.

Trumps tax cuts was during a 2.4% GDP growth, lower unemployment and high consumer confidence.