Usa 2024

[pzkpfw]

Yeah, heard that before. The main problem is that people who don't like the idea of socialism are usually either wealthy people who want to hang on to what's theirs (and preferably what's yours' as well). Or, as in the US, are dim twats who have no idea what the word means and are subsequently easily manipulated by others who might know or might not. An easy bogey man to scare the witless.

Social democracy FTW.

Classic case is estate tax in the U.S. and U.K.
Only really affects big estates, worth well more than the middle class will ever have, but the folk who'd have to pay the tax work hard to convince everyone else the evil taxman is coming for them and their children's $20 inheritance.


There's been a populist-right win in the Netherlands recently too.
I think it's just the pendulum swinging (people blaming whoever is in that they are the cause of any trouble, and whoever is out claiming they will fix things) added to the growing trend of the right blowing up anything into a problem - that was caused by scary change from the good old days.

[R650R]

Yeah, heard that before. The main problem is that people who don't like the idea of socialism are usually either wealthy people who want to hang on to what's theirs (and preferably what's yours' as well). Or, as in the US, are dim twats who have no idea what the word means and are subsequently easily manipulated by others who might know or might not. An easy bogey man to scare the witless.

Social democracy FTW.

Youll find it’s the small business owners crippled by extra time and financial costs of compliance to ever increasing govt beauracracy. As Thatcher pointed out socialism always fails as sooner or later you run out of other people’s money to spend. Socialism is the worlds biggest Ponzi scheme.

[BMWST?]

Socialism isnt all bad. I am sure many of us apprecite the fact that there is "free" healthcare,unemployment,super etc. But i agree with the sentiment that there is too much govt in our lives now,and encroaching at local govt level too.Where is the balance? The "land of the free" is in some ways the least free

[R650R]

Socialism isnt all bad. I am sure many of us apprecite the fact that there is "free" healthcare,unemployment,super etc. But i agree with the sentiment that there is too much govt in our lives now,and encroaching at local govt level too.Where is the balance? The "land of the free" is in some ways the least free

We all have a dream of what socialism SHOULD look like in a western society. Some form of public healthcare, small welfare safety net, policing and education, road maintainance etc.

But the last six years of unchecked lunacy of a prime minister who had five media managers, 30% growth in govt beauracracy jobs which included more media managers and spin doctors. I mean who thinks it’s ok for ACC to be advertising what they do, pure money down drain. Ohhhh it’s just a little inflation problem that compounds every year. We were on path to join Argentina if labour had stayed in power any longer.
We have gotten to a PC point where we accept failure and just rain cash on it to quell fires of discontent. Instead we should be making success easier by removing barriers to people’s abilities to make their own choices and paths ahead. You do that by less rules and regulations.