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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPenguin View Post
    You lost me at the elite planting billytfukwit.
    Im sorry you can't comprehend such a simple effective tactic being utilised. With the way the internet works they know what the masses are talking about, they know what people are worried about.
    It's just like how the CIA funds a local puppet dictator that they know has a believable external exterior to not be over thrown by the local populace. And we all KNOW and accept that happens.
    Iran, Iraq, Libya, Nicuragua, Venezuala etc....
    You know a situation is going to develop so you put an agent in to control or discredit the topic.

    In the lead up to 911 the original conspiracy radio guy big in America was bill cooper, ended up getting some federally mandated high speed lead poisoning.
    Then all of a sudden Alex jones is big time and everyone knows now he's controlled....
    Straight after 911 some young kid who "left the army" makes the slick 911 doco loose change which pushed the fake CGI aeroplane angle to immediately discredit entire 911 inside job angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPenguin View Post
    We need to start somewhere, population is plateauing, attitudes are changing, I believe the ship is slowing down and starting to turn, hopefully we miss hitting the iceberg rather than the iceberg melting away and we just steam on over where it once was.
    And according to all of our best intentions over the last 50 years we've tried and tried and tried and yet we're still not actually going in the right direction. The economics of degrowth are preventing it from happening. Sustainability and the associated efficiency that come with it is the death of the current economy, because mass unemployment is our future, be it through natural business drive to cut costs (automate), less resource becoming available, collapse of ecosystems, supposed hundred year weather events turning up when we don't want them, bigger earthquake and so on. Our future is collapse from all sorts of angles, yet all of those angles are clearly being ignored no matter how well evidenced they are as coming.

    And that's outwith any form of "conspiracy theory" thrown into the mix... malthusian or otherwise.

    We dodge it (through luck more than anything), by each of us understanding what is expected of each of us. In many cases that will mean no longer having a job to go to, on the basis that Non-Essential jobs are consuming Essential resources for Non-Essential purposes. Lunacy by any metric on a finite planet. End of story... unless you have an axe to grind with communism that is .......
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPenguin View Post
    So who would you listen to? Remember Sir David is just the narrator.
    The noun to describe someone who narrates what he does not believe to be true, is "liar."

    Actually I doubt he's a liar - he's just a great big elite hypocrite who like all the other elite hypocrites think their edicts, lectures and homilies apply only to the rest of humanity not their sainted selves.

    Consider also the Davos elite gathered at, well, Davos to have the poisoned dwarfess Thunberg lecture us peasants about stopping flying for holidays; yet more than 1700 plane journeys were cleared into Davos in 2019 for that meeting alone – a figure that does not “take into account public figures such as presidents and prime ministers.” There they scarf down US$43 hotdogs and listen to more hypocrites expand. E.g., Al Gore & rapper and producer Pharrell Williams* to promote ‘climate change’ awareness through a series of concerts called “Live Earth.”

    * When he’s not fighting to decrease your motorcycle-riding footprint, Pharrell flies across the planet on his private jet, sailing the seas on fossil fuel-burning yachts, and driving around in his pollution pumping luxury cars. …Pharrell owns a Mercedes-Benz SLR, which gets about 12 miles to the gallon. He has a McLaren Roadster, which gets him about 13 miles per gallon. Pharrell also owns a Rolls Royce Phantom and a Porsche Spyder 550, which both get about 10 and 20 miles per gallon. Good for him they are his toys, but he can eff right off telling us we can't keep riding and driving ours.

    In short, I'll believe it's a crisis when the people who tell me it's a crisis start acting like it is a crisis - including Ardern who should stay at home; she can give the Pacific Islands aid by Zoom video and keystroke rather than fly out there on a taxpayer-funded public jet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDJ View Post
    The noun to describe someone who narrates what he does not believe to be true, is "liar."

    Actually I doubt he's a liar - he's just a great big elite hypocrite who like all the other elite hypocrites think their edicts, lectures and homilies apply only to the rest of humanity not their sainted selves.

    Consider also the Davos elite gathered at, well, Davos to have the poisoned dwarfess Thunberg lecture us peasants about stopping flying for holidays; yet more than 1700 plane journeys were cleared into Davos in 2019 for that meeting alone – a figure that does not “take into account public figures such as presidents and prime ministers.” There they scarf down US$43 hotdogs and listen to more hypocrites expand. E.g., Al Gore & rapper and producer Pharrell Williams* to promote ‘climate change’ awareness through a series of concerts called “Live Earth.”

    * When he’s not fighting to decrease your motorcycle-riding footprint, Pharrell flies across the planet on his private jet, sailing the seas on fossil fuel-burning yachts, and driving around in his pollution pumping luxury cars. …Pharrell owns a Mercedes-Benz SLR, which gets about 12 miles to the gallon. He has a McLaren Roadster, which gets him about 13 miles per gallon. Pharrell also owns a Rolls Royce Phantom and a Porsche Spyder 550, which both get about 10 and 20 miles per gallon. Good for him they are his toys, but he can eff right off telling us we can't keep riding and driving ours.

    In short, I'll believe it's a crisis when the people who tell me it's a crisis start acting like it is a crisis - including Ardern who should stay at home; she can give the Pacific Islands aid by Zoom video and keystroke rather than fly out there on a taxpayer-funded public jet.
    Fair enough, but electric is coming, bikes too.

    Funny aside my autocorrect turned "electric" into "election trick". Conspiracy???

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPenguin View Post
    Fair enough, but electric is coming, bikes too.
    It is, and we will, if our history with current technology is anything to go by, waste the opportunity to make the tech work for all... especially when it needs to be sold to individuals in an unsustainable manner to fund business enough to fund the move towards collective sustainability ... As such...

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPenguin
    Funny aside my autocorrect turned "electric" into "election trick". Conspiracy???
    that's probably pretty close to being Fact... depending on which prism of evidence you're willing to look through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie View Post
    Oh, incidentally, these are the goals of Agenda 2030 which is all about sustainable development.
    Hang on, back the horse and cart up, what happened to Agenda 21 have we abandoned that already ?
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Hang on, back the horse and cart up, what happened to Agenda 21 have we abandoned that already ?
    It’s the same thing but we’ve got Australia to thanks for slowing it up. They said F U to the world and kept up their coal mining cause it drives economy. That’s why the Elite set fire to half the country to try bring them inline.
    The turning point was when in desperation they trotted out lil thugberg and people openly laughed at the rising sea levels that never happened.
    Pretty sick mix a human trafficked autistic 16y/o as the poster for the future.
    We shouldn’t have laughed though, carbon taxes would have been cheaper than all this covid drama they resorted to instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    It’s the same thing but we’ve got Australia to thanks for slowing it up. They said F U to the world and kept up their coal mining cause it drives economy. That’s why the Elite set fire to half the country to try bring them inline.
    The turning point was when in desperation they trotted out lil thugberg and people openly laughed at the rising sea levels that never happened.
    Pretty sick mix a human trafficked autistic 16y/o as the poster for the future.
    We shouldn’t have laughed though, carbon taxes would have been cheaper than all this covid drama they resorted to instead.
    Either you need help or I don't get your humour....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    It is, and we will, if our history with current technology is anything to go by, waste the opportunity to make the tech work for all... especially when it needs to be sold to individuals in an unsustainable manner to fund business enough to fund the move towards collective sustainability ... As such...



    that's probably pretty close to being Fact... depending on which prism of evidence you're willing to look through.
    At least it will end child poverty. All the slave labour children of Africa will be taking in 2 cents a day in the cobalt mines for the batteries in GretaÂ’s livewire.
    You have to laugh... pretty much EVERYWHERE in the world electrical infrastructure generation and distribution is at capacity.
    But they want to stress that by recharging the national vehicle fleet every night.
    Ever notice how thereÂ’s SFA cars on road when all blacks match on. Fuck itÂ’s going to be good when they all race home to watch the match, plug in their Konas, watch the stadium lights trip out and the live broadcast drop haha.
    Then thereÂ’s the building of new factories, massively intensifying mining operations for heavy metals needed for batteries...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPenguin View Post
    Either you need help or I don't get your humour....
    Nah you should have just stayed in school bit longer 😂😂😂
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPenguin View Post
    Either you need help or I don't get your humour....
    He needs help, pharmaceutical or psychiatric, you choose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    He needs help, pharmaceutical or psychiatric, you choose
    Hello gorgeous
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Hello gorgeous
    And obviously an Optometrist
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    At least it will end child poverty. All the slave labour children of Africa will be taking in 2 cents a day in the cobalt mines for the batteries in GretaÂ’s livewire.
    You have to laugh... pretty much EVERYWHERE in the world electrical infrastructure generation and distribution is at capacity.
    But they want to stress that by recharging the national vehicle fleet every night.
    Ever notice how thereÂ’s SFA cars on road when all blacks match on. Fuck itÂ’s going to be good when they all race home to watch the match, plug in their Konas, watch the stadium lights trip out and the live broadcast drop haha.
    Then thereÂ’s the building of new factories, massively intensifying mining operations for heavy metals needed for batteries...
    lol@ending child poverty. What a fuckin' crock o shite. Yay, we've ended poverty because the average income in "Africa" is more than a $ level set that meets the KPI. Platitudes for the intellectually challenged.
    Capacity can always be increased though, and it will coz it brings jobs and wealth to the economoney and keeps people from understanding just where the resources come from to achieve the amewican dream and the true cost. Until it doesn't, which as you say will be most amusing if the game is on. When there's no baseline, or indeed when the baseline has been completely ignored, likely greenwashed by the Davos architects and their way of stimulating the green economoney whilst carrying on with the setting of the direction we're going to end up being taken, then pretty much everything we do is a waste according to all logic, reason and common sense. Without question there's a happy medium to be found with regards to humans and technology, but again, the economics of today stop us from finding that medium coz it does mean producing less.
    And a fooooookin' blah blah blah... coz every fucker has to ignore that sort of thing for their 'ism' and world view of choice to work. That's how ya end up Conservative positions that completely ignore trees and their wider role in, well, anything other than being a unit or two of potential currency.
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    I wonder too mashman if all the lefty activistists understand what equality really means in eyes of elite.
    Activists think of equality as all of us on say $50hr but we know that doesn’t add up...
    The Elite think of equality as all of us on 5cents a day
    They all want sustainablity but forget on whose standard are we judging.
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