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    Well weíll, well.... https://i.stuff.co.nz/environment/cl...imate-inaction

    It seems the greenies are finally wising up to the scam, that itís all about money and dirty money at that in more ways than one.
    Whatís really concerning though is we now have corporations promoting young people to protest about climate change. The script is becoming clear.
    The tool of balkanisation used by the elite to destroy large successful independant countries is now being used on western societies. Soon our own children will be attacking us old folk for destroying the planet....
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    The tool of balkanisation used by the elite
    Would that be the Lizard People elite or the Illuminati elite? Asking for a friend....
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    We should start a poll.

    Vote the way that R666 will be gunned down by the Police:

    a) rambling rifle waving maniac in central city
    b) failed attempt to wound an elite social worker (who may have been a lizard)
    c) assassination by police as was about to expose the edge of the earth dome
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    Surprisingly labourís transport minister supports the logic of keeping this place open, but sadly her fellow colleagues canít see the wood for the trees in fog of climate debate.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/12705...t-oil-refinery

    Marsden is a strategic national assett that allows us to shop around on the globally crude market. Now we will be at the mercy of the few refined product suppliers willing to deal with such a small customer. All the major fuel price hikes in recent years have been due to peak refining capacity not a lack of oil supply. Some commentators have even remarked on the suspicious nature of some refinery accidents.
    Itís one of the few industryís where if you accidently cut your capacity you benefit in price hikes....

    The govt should be nationalising this assett to help control our economic competitive for exporters during tradition to electric. Any higher prices get passed on to consumers and exporters weakening our international competitiveness....
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    Maybe if your posts did not reference such a dubious source...


    Joanne Nova - She self-published[8] the book The Skeptics Handbook, which rejects the scientific consensus on climate change and promotes various falsehoods about climate change.[11] The book argues that temperatures have not increased, and that greenhouse gases do not contribute to climate change.[11][5] The book promotes the myth that there is already so much CO2 in the atmosphere that adding more will not have an impact on temperatures.[11][12] The book was widely distributed in the United States by The Heartland Institute, known primarily for promoting pseudoscientific views on climate change and the harms of smoking.[11][13] In 2009, Nova self-published[8] a sequel, Global Bullies Want Your Money, and in the same year she wrote a paper for the SPPI titled Climate Money.[14] That year, she gave a presentation at the Heartland Institute, titled "The Great Global Fawning: How Science Journalists Pay Homage to Non-Science and Un-Reason."[11]

    She has falsely claimed that fewer than half of climate scientists agree with the IPCC's conclusion that CO2 is the dominant contributor to climate change.[4] PolitiFact described that as a "flat-out wrong" interpretation of data from a survey, and the lead author of the survey in question said that the survey showed "a strong majority of scientists agree that greenhouse gases originating from human activity are the dominant cause of recent warming."[4] Nova has argued that climate science is distorted by money, saying "thousands of scientists have been funded to find a connection between human carbon emissions and the climate. Hardly any have been funded to find the opposite."[
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Maybe if your posts did not reference such a dubious source...


    Joanne Nova - She self-published[8] the book The Skeptics Handbook, which rejects the scientific consensus on climate change and promotes various falsehoods about climate change.[11] The book argues that temperatures have not increased, and that greenhouse gases do not contribute to climate change.[11][5] The book promotes the myth that there is already so much CO2 in the atmosphere that adding more will not have an impact on temperatures.[11][12] The book was widely distributed in the United States by The Heartland Institute, known primarily for promoting pseudoscientific views on climate change and the harms of smoking.[11][13] In 2009, Nova self-published[8] a sequel, Global Bullies Want Your Money, and in the same year she wrote a paper for the SPPI titled Climate Money.[14] That year, she gave a presentation at the Heartland Institute, titled "The Great Global Fawning: How Science Journalists Pay Homage to Non-Science and Un-Reason."[11]

    She has falsely claimed that fewer than half of climate scientists agree with the IPCC's conclusion that CO2 is the dominant contributor to climate change.[4] PolitiFact described that as a "flat-out wrong" interpretation of data from a survey, and the lead author of the survey in question said that the survey showed "a strong majority of scientists agree that greenhouse gases originating from human activity are the dominant cause of recent warming."[4] Nova has argued that climate science is distorted by money, saying "thousands of scientists have been funded to find a connection between human carbon emissions and the climate. Hardly any have been funded to find the opposite."[
    Greenhouse gas effect is only a hypothesis unable to be proven by scientific methods as we donít have a seperate earth to run control experiment. Thereís is no ďscienceĒ
    CO2 is a TRACE element at 400 parts per million, infitesminally small....
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Greenhouse gas effect is only a hypothesis unable to be proven by scientific methods as we donít have a seperate earth to run control experiment. Thereís is no ďscienceĒ
    CO2 is a TRACE element at 400 parts per million, infitesminally small....
    Lack of 50% of the worlds trees should tip ya'll to the notion that CO2 is at more than natural trace element levels. Replacing the equivalent foliage, and therefore natural trace element levels, takes thousands of years, not "the world has never been so green after 10 years of intensive planting" (for profit to be harvested well before maturity given that a tree is a product, not something that helps filter the air and keep temps in various areas cooler etc...) populist bullshit that flies in the face of all logic, reason and common sense, let alone scientific evidence. Anything else is greenwashing.

    "EPA has set a limit of 0.01 parts per million (ppm) for arsenic in drinking water". Sure a human could handle more, but hey, they get sicker the more that's added. It's almost as though the human body thrives on clean air, water and food... something, somewhat ironically, human beings are intent on making sure never happens... but hey, ROI is so very important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Greenhouse gas effect is only a hypothesis unable to be proven by scientific methods as we donít have a seperate earth to run control experiment. Thereís is no ďscienceĒ
    CO2 is a TRACE element at 400 parts per million, infitesminally small....

    It would seem scientists disagree.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-59475410
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ison-says.html

    Im sure weve all shared work vehicles st some stage.... from fuelcards/seat position/ rubbish yeah nah no thanks... this ainít going to work.
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    Thankfully due to govt ineptitude itís seems not too much is actually going to happen

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/polit...ke-other-plans

    But itís starting, they are coming for our engines.....

    Did some quick maths on the 569 million and factored in govts ability to actually deliver something.
    They are going to help poor first. Letís say they buy back 10,000 clunkers at $5,000 each then give each person 50k to buy electric car.... pooooof itís gone.....

    I canít wait for the howls of racism and inequity when they announce the trade in will have to have WOF and rego to stop people cashing in with unroadworthy wrecks. Cause thereís half the target vehicles gone for starters

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    JamesShaw gets thoroughly owned at end of this video.... seems very uncomfortable to admit what car he owns even though it is ď greenĒ

    Fastfwd to halfway to hear very little about how the cash for clunkers will work. Of note they are talking 6-10k for your old shitter.... but thereís no mechanism in place to control what you buy next ...
    Like all techno believers they think modern cars are much more fuel efficient than older ones but I think that some been weíll proven as urban myth, itís mostly in the driving technique.
    Also rabbitts on about maintainance costs not realising that in the price range he escaped talking about people donít service them unless itís absolute necessity.

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    Dangerous territory now with a knowledge sharing deal signed with Wokefornia, the state that killed off two stroke motorcycles....

    Right now the dimwits in Wellington prob donít know about cat removal and aftermarket engine tunes all of which is banned over there.....

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/polit...ate-on-climate
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