MotoGP 2021

[Autech]

Apparently Zarco's bin was a gearbox problem - it picked a gear it aughtn't have done in the corner.......
Acosta may well be one to watch......

He's certainly hit the ground running, not seen a rookie be that good in moto3 straight away ever that I can think of.

He's got some excellent bike control too, that last corner was magic. That and how he was able to dive under brakes and still make the line, impressive stuff. Time will tell but he's already looking a sure thing for Motogp



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[onearmedbandit]

He's certainly hit the ground running, not seen a rookie be that good in moto3 straight away ever that I can think of.

I think from memory the commentators said he's out performed every rookie so far, including all the big names who have now progressed to MotoGP.

[Autech]

I think from memory the commentators said he's out performed every rookie so far, including all the big names who have now progressed to MotoGP.

Yeah it's something I've done some looking into in the past to judge alien status. The likes of Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Marquez, Rossi etc all took 2 or 3 seasons to start winning races and getting podiums, championships etc, granted they didn't have the red bull rookies feeder class at the time and it was 125ccs. Joan Mir took a few seasons too...

I just checked a few of the motogp riders and the most impressive rookie seasons were Vinales and Rins as they got wins and podiums straight away. Whole lot of factors at play there though like who had a good bike right away, Jack Miller, Brad Binder never did to begin with for example as they weren't Spanish or Italian so who knows what they'd have achieved.

What sets the aliens apart is when they switched to the 250s, moto2 motogp etc they all start winning straight away with not much adaption time.

One thing we can go off is Acostas skills on the bike, which seem to me like he's just got something more that the others he's up against in the first few races, bit like Marquez he's able to do things on a bike that the others in his class can't, so promising signs...

If he wins the championship first time out then he 100% would have done something not seen before.

[Dadpole]

A tiny note of caution is the memory of Fenati. He came in with a second and (a 30 second gap) win is his first 2 races and it all went wrong from there. I hope we never see a repeat of that, but Acosta seems like he has the right attitude and the right team.
Meantime, I await the next race to see what he will do.

[denill]

A tiny note of caution is the memory of Fenati. He came in with a second and (a 30 second gap) win is his first 2 races and it all went wrong from there. I hope we never see a repeat of that, but Acosta seems like he has the right attitude and the right team.
Meantime, I await the next race to see what he will do.

Yep, Fenati. When I first spotted him I would have put money on him becoming the major class WC. Lucky I don’t manage a team........

[george formby]

Yep, Fenati. When I first spotted him I would have put money on him becoming the major class WC. Lucky I don’t manage a team........

Interesting conversation. What was the name of the British rider a few seasons ago who seemed indomitable but ended up melting down? Never been heard of since.

Acosta is 16, I believe. Lets hope he has someone keeping his feet firmly on terra firma, the pressure in moto3 is already nuts 3 races in. It's becoming hard to watch.

[Dadpole]

Danny Kent may be the one you mean.

After all the years and disappointments, I still shout at Fenati to get up to the pointy end during a race. It must be like an abusive marriage where I know it is doomed but hang on for just one more race in the hope things will get better.

[Autech]

Interesting conversation. What was the name of the British rider a few seasons ago who seemed indomitable but ended up melting down? Never been heard of since.

Acosta is 16, I believe. Lets hope he has someone keeping his feet firmly on terra firma, the pressure in moto3 is already nuts 3 races in. It's becoming hard to watch.

Difference was Kent took many seasons to win the title and only just got it once Olivera got a chasis upgrade to his KTM to give him a chance against Kents Honda.

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[steveyb]

Gotta say that some of Acostas 'bike control' is more in the 'fuck it, it will hold on' vein than great control.
That last pass at Portimao was a suck it and pray to god move.
That comes from sheer belief that the bike will do what he wants it to do, when he wants it to do it. So fair play to him.
Having the best team in Moto3 or MotoGP entirely, around you helps that. We have been communicating directly with his crew chief Albo about getting Cormac Racing into that team.
Fingers crossed. We will see.
We all gotta remember that Acosta has not come from racing in NZSBK. He has been racing in CEV JWC for two or three years already and also Rookies Cup of course. So even at 16, he is a well honed racing machine.

Just watched the Marquez return to the track short doco on MotoGP.com.
Very interesting move at 2min 55s ish, where he tucks his left foot right up under the bike, readying for left hand corner.
Interesting......

[denill]

Yep, Fenati. When I first spotted him I would have put money on him becoming the major class WC. Lucky I don’t manage a team........

Canet was another whiz kid in his early years, as was Vinales.

[Dadpole]

Canet certainly looked the part in the last race. Moto2 and 3 are packed with talent nowadays. The likes of Vinales must be dreading the tap on the shoulder and "Time to move on old timer".

[Autech]

Gotta say that some of Acostas 'bike control' is more in the 'fuck it, it will hold on' vein than great control.
That last pass at Portimao was a suck it and pray to god move.
That comes from sheer belief that the bike will do what he wants it to do, when he wants it to do it. So fair play to him.
Having the best team in Moto3 or MotoGP entirely, around you helps that. We have been communicating directly with his crew chief Albo about getting Cormac Racing into that team.
Fingers crossed. We will see.
We all gotta remember that Acosta has not come from racing in NZSBK. He has been racing in CEV JWC for two or three years already and also Rookies Cup of course. So even at 16, he is a well honed racing machine.

Yeah that last corner was a hold on and hope for the best moment, was impressed me was some of his moves under the brakes when the bike was stood upright but he was making it turn a bit, good sign that he has feeling in the front. 100% he's in the best team too so for all we know there's someone in the back on a 2 year old KTM that's just waiting for the chance to shine, Acosta has earned his spot there though for sure.

So good to have Cormac there, what a track to debut on too! Even the motogp boys say its tough to learn, looking forward to seeing him at the more traditional motogp tracks.
Good result too for a first throw at the dice with the big boys. Be awesome if a kiwi could make it into the world championship level in a team that good. Simon Crafar been to have a chat with him yet?

Canet certainly looked the part in the last race. Moto2 and 3 are packed with talent nowadays. The likes of Vinales must be dreading the tap on the shoulder and "Time to move on old timer".

Canet was another whiz kid in his early years, as was Vinales.

If Canet gets a few more good results on that speed up then he's almost certainly in for a motogp seat as that's the kind of stuff that gets the motogp teams ears perking up. Only problem is that there aren't enough seats for talented riders to fill...

The riders I see going off current results and that could be shifted at the end of the year are:
Rossi (on him to retire as no team would fire him)
Petrux (he's doing alright actually, but Herve wants young riders and he's always going to be up against his size)
Salvadori (injured apparently so may show some form, that seat is cursed)
Lecuona (Also injured apparently, I think Herve will keep faith in him though)

So that's only 4 potential seats, the Aprilia will almost certainly go to Dovi if he wants it (which I don't see anyone else offering him a ride)
Then you've got 2 riders in Moto2 that Dorna will want in Motogp asap (they're also going well too which helps) Gardener and Roberts

They need to expand the motogp grid, whos got a cool 100mil for me to start one?

[Reckless]

At least he's not rushing back Next GP
6 weeks for any bone to properly Heal - TRUST ME my arms in plaster now 2 weeks to go

The goal for the Pramac Racing rider is to be back on the track at Mugello for the Italian Grand Prix
Tags MotoGP, 2021, GRANDE PRÉMIO 888 DE PORTUGAL, Jorge Martin, Pramac Racing
Yesterday afternoon Jorge Martin (Pramac Racing) underwent extensive surgery by specialists Dr. Xavier Mir, Dr. David Campillo and Dr. Joan Carles Monllau at the Traumatology Department (ICATME) of Dexeus University Hospital in Barcelona.


The Spanish rider had suffered several fractures: to the scaphoid, the first metacarpal of the right hand and the right ankle, which were surgically reduced, while the fractures to the pyramidal bone of the right wrist and the fifth metacarpal of the left hand were reduced and immobilised, without the need for surgery. The fracture to the left tibial plateau was reduced by arthroscopy.

Martin will remain in hospital under observation for the next 72 hours, and will then have to observe a few days of rest before starting rehabilitation, with the aim of returning to the track for the Italian GP at Mugello.

[Dadpole]

And Tito is replacing Martin. It will be interesting to see what he can do on a decent bike. I doubt he can emulate Bautista when he was given the factory bike for a race, but I expect a points position.

[steveyb]

Be awesome if a kiwi could make it into the world championship level in a team that good. Simon Crafar been to have a chat with him yet?


Salvadori (injured apparently so may show some form, that seat is cursed)
Lecuona (Also injured apparently, I think Herve will keep faith in him though)

So that's only 4 potential seats, the Aprilia will almost certainly go to Dovi if he wants it (which I don't see anyone else offering him a ride)
Then you've got 2 riders in Moto2 that Dorna will want in Motogp asap (they're also going well too which helps) Gardener and Roberts

They need to expand the motogp grid, whos got a cool 100mil for me to start one?

Yep. Simon and Webby made a point of coming to find him and Dad, Stacey, to have a chat. So that was great.
Everyone at RBRC is very happy with his performance and improvement. He actually made more improvement in R2 than Alosno did, 2 sec better. (12 sec over the race rather than Alosno's 10 sec). We'll take it!! LOL We are on the radar of the Ajo Motorsports team, so they are keeping a watching brief. On other riders too of course.
Yes, will be good to see how Cmac goes on the more traditional circuits and now he has a taste for the level.
In R2 he was still a little hesitant, was being held up by Somer and had a big highside moment when his rear tyre spun up (Somer behind him told him after the race he could see the smoke coming off it!!). So, he would have been racing with Eddie O'Shea and finished maybe only 45sec behind and in 19th, perhaps. Still, at least he didn't crash. Perrin is in year 2 and crashed in both races. Another note, Eddie and Cormac are the youngest riders in the field, too.

Dovi will slot in for Savadori if he wants it. Savadori is not MotoGP quality. The RS-GP is looking really good so far.

Herve is really unhappy with both Tech3 riders at the moment. His latest interview told the world he is pissed off and not happy. Mind you, the RC16 seems to have not improved much, or even gone half a step backwards. The Yamaha, or at least Fabulous' one, is looking sweet. Vinales' one also, but he is still too up and down eh.

Personally, I would like to see the grid expanded by two, to include a Suzuki satellite team, rather than cut out a team. Having said that, the third Ducati satellite team may be one too many.