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    I just reply to your short posts sport, your wall efforts are way too sticky
    And I'm only replying of late because I'm bored shitless isolating because of covid dammit.

    And as for your fantasy that republicans still exist in the wild - You poor deluded man

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    I just reply to your short posts sport, your wall efforts are way too sticky
    And I'm only replying of late because I'm bored shitless isolating because of covid dammit.
    Yet, you're still here.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    And as for your fantasy that republicans still exist in the wild - You poor deluded man
    Yeah... The problem is I can think of at least 2 people who were murdered specifically because of their Republican views. Spurred on by Democrat Rhetoric.

    Cayler Ellingson
    and
    Aaron Danielson

    That is without bringing up all the various murders that have been done by Left-Wing Activists in recent times - like Waukesha or the CHAZ/CHOP or the BLM Riots or Micah Johnson.

    Not to mention the current Marxist infiltration of the Democrats - Marxism being inherently revolutionary.

    And just before you start scoffing at how far the Republicans have fallen:

    https://inthesetimes.com/article/the...ng-to-kill-you
    https://www.politico.com/story/2009/...-to-die-027726

    Goose/Gander and for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The more the Democrats push these various Marxist ideas (CRT, Gender Theory, Intersectionality etc.) and the more they allow their side to commit acts of Murder, whilst decrying the 'far right', the more you will see a pushback.

    Everything Magic The Gathering is saying has an element of truth to it.
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    Just Americans exercising their 2nd amendment rights, I'm surprised you are not cheering them on, you don't seem to mind countless dead school kids eh? Go the gun!

    It's socialism - vote No!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Just Americans exercising their 2nd amendment rights, I'm surprised you are not cheering them on, you don't seem to mind countless dead school kids eh? Go the gun!
    So why are you worried about what Magic The Gathering is saying?

    Or is it only bad when Right Wingers do it?
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    Lampooning is not worrying.
    Your desperate defense of everything right leaning whilst finding deep marxist roots in everything on the left is comical. Both parties are as SHIT as each other, just in different ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Lampooning is not worrying.
    But it IS hypocritical when you castigate one side for saying something, which is in response to the other side actually doing it.

    If you want to be horrified at MTG at what she says, that's fine - I just expect even greater horror at the Democrats for what they have done.

    Otherwise - as I said, it's only ever bad when the Right Wing does it, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Your desperate defense of everything right leaning whilst finding deep marxist roots in everything on the left is comical.
    I know, right? It's so desperate when the people who came up with the various philosophical ideas describe themselves as Marxists and say that their theory is based on Marxist theories and they cite Marxist scholars in their works and they use Marxist iconography and imagery.

    So Desperate.
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    Oh, you want hypocritical, you are the grand master- trumps rallies during the pandemic when at it's most lethal to get votes by any means killed many - and that is his own side. Give me a break, the right deal death like it is nothing - for a vote, for a buck (Trump forcing meat workers to work closely together before vaccines were a thing.) Wonder how much he got paid for that favour eh? You may conveniently forget - not I.
    No doubt you will bring up 1 meager dem celebration parade (still dumb of them) or some such thing as a desperate defense, but Trump did rally, after rally, after rally, after rally. As you well know. How many did he kill? - Fucking plenty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Oh, you want hypocritical, you are the grand master- trumps rallies during the pandemic when at it's most lethal to get votes by any means killed many - and that is his own side. Give me a break, the right deal death like it is nothing - for a vote, for a buck (Trump forcing meat workers to work closely together before vaccines were a thing.) Wonder how much he got paid for that favour eh? You may conveniently forget - not I.
    No doubt you will bring up 1 meager dem celebration parade (still dumb of them) or some such thing as a desperate defense, but Trump did rally, after rally, after rally, after rally. As you well know. How many did he kill? - Fucking plenty.
    Except you aren't appealing to the Morality of the Right, therefore no Hypocrisy.

    The Right Morality in this case is akin to: "You are responsible for making your own decisions and you will reap the rewards or the whirlwind of your actions".

    It is entirely consistent with an individualist view of morality to hold events that are 'free' to attend (that is there is no compulsion to attend, not talking about money) even if there is a risk of injury or death are acceptable.

    And just before you counter, consider this, we are on a Motorcycle Forum - we both know that every year that the TT runs, on average, a Rider dies. Philosophically, that is no different than attending a Trump rally during Covid.

    No one is forcing them to go.
    Everyone believes either the risks are acceptable or 'it won't happen to me'.
    That their participation could lead to the deaths of others.

    You might say that the 265 riders is a drop compared to the total number of US Covid Deaths - and I'd reply it's probably in the same ballpark compared to how many enter the race vs the US Population.

    The Hypocrisy of which I speak of is that I'm using your own morality against you - you say it's bad when MTG says something hyperbolic and incendiary, the implication (whether it's yours specifically or just the wider left-wing narrative) that Words will turn to Violence.

    Okay - fair enough - that's a perfectly acceptable position to hold....




    So long as it's applied equally.

    And so when I see Democrats saying equally hyperbolic and incendiary things and can point to actual acts of political Murder, I'm going to appeal to your morality and say that by your own standards, what the Democrats are currently doing is worse.

    When you then struggle to condemn it - I'm going to point out that it only appears to be an issue with the Right does it. It's one rule for the Left and a different for the Right.

    The Bonus point here is remember when I posted that clip of Douglas Murray talking about the likes of MTG? A clip which IIRC you didn't entirely disagree with his assessments - one of his key points was that if you ignore the concerns of the right wing and continue to apply this double standard, the right will get louder and more strident in their views and that is what creates people like Magic the Gathering.
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    And the choice they made to come was 100 percent contaminated by trumps determined efforts down playing the dangers of the virus.
    For an IT guy, your long winded write ups are very inefficient. See how a one sentence reply with just a modicum of thought put into it crushed your avalanche of misdirection?

    Now I have a request of you.
    Unfortunately for your stanza of favourite talking points, covid isolation has given me time to select a single one to delve deeper into. I have selected CRT. I must say at this point, it is looking grim for the Conservative point of view. Let me save you the time and we shall assume all my research sources thus far are riddled with deep marxist roots. So, please provide a link that eloquently sums up the Conservative position on crt in 10 (equivalent) pages or less. I have certainly found such efficient summarisations from the opposing team, it should not be hard for a man of your clear experience in the subject to provide a link to the same from a Conservative view point. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    And the choice they made to come was 100 percent contaminated by trumps determined efforts down playing the dangers of the virus.
    And? No one is obligated to believe anything anyone else has to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    For an IT guy, your long winded write ups are very inefficient. See how a one sentence reply with just a modicum of thought put into it crushed your avalanche of misdirection?
    See above

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Now I have a request of you.
    Unfortunately for your stanza of favourite talking points, covid isolation has given me time to select a single one to delve deeper into. I have selected CRT. I must say at this point, it is looking grim for the Conservative point of view. Let me save you the time and we shall assume all my research sources thus far are riddled with deep marxist roots. So, please provide a link that eloquently sums up the Conservative position on crt in 10 (equivalent) pages or less. I have certainly found such efficient summarisations from the opposing team, it should not be hard for a man of your clear experience in the subject to provide a link to the same from a Conservative view point. Thank you
    I'm going to presage this with "I told you that you are still here "

    Okay - a good place to start would be the work of James Lindsay, this outlines the What of CRT is and in the last few paragraphs is implicitly making the conservative argument against it:

    https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-critical-race-theory/

    One of my preferred sources, that has a number of excellent Video discussions on the Origins of CRT - but since you asked for written works:

    https://www.lotuseaters.com/godspeed...g-crt-25-07-21

    An Academic Critique of CRT, before it became verbotten to criticise:

    https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/...&context=cjlpp

    If you want a longer read:

    https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/2..._FINAL_WEB.pdf

    And now for my personal perspective:

    It asserts that the primary way we should view the world is through the lens of Race. I should not see someone as a Fellow Human, but I should see them as Black, White, Maori and treat them in accordance with their Race. The only difference between them and the KKK is that the Race Crits think I should positively discriminate based on Race, whereas the KKK think I should negatively discriminate based on race.

    The conservative position is that any form of Discrimination based on race is Bad. Instead we should be selecting on Merit.

    If that means that everyone in a Maths degree is Asian, then the conservative does not care as long as everyone who got there did so on Merit, with fair selection criteria (e.g. everyone took the same test and had to achieve the same minimum score to attend).
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    Your flippancy and arrogance towards death caused by trump is duly noted as is your inability to not offer just the one single source of info requested.
    ill read the first written recommendation, if it is short, then the 2nd one too.

    Just to add one point. You seem to seek respect for your belief that the right get the rough end of the stick media wise etc... Your constant gloating erodes ones will to absorb any meaningful points your writing's may contain.

    When trump lost in 2020, i dont really recall many here if in fact any getting in your face and gloating about it. A classy bunch here at kb, the great unwashed biker bunch that we are in all.
    food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Your flippancy and arrogance towards death caused by trump is duly noted
    Wrong - it's flippancy and arrogance against ALL Self-caused Deaths. People make choices and sometimes those choices result in Death. I do not shed a tear for the Drunk Driver who wraps themselves around a pole in the same manner that I'm not shedding a tear here.

    Ultimately, we are responsible for our own actions and our own well-being, only.

    Edit: In much the same way that I wouldn't expect anyone who didn't personally know me to shed a tear on my behalf if I died in a particularly stupid or avoidable manner.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    as is your inability to not offer just the one single source of info requested.
    ill read the first written recommendation, if it is short, then the 2nd one too.
    Okay - my bad on that one - I read 10 pages as 10 Internet pages, e.g. less than 10 links - so I thought 4 was being reasonable. In which case - yes, definitely the first.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Just to add one point. You seem to seek respect for your belief that the right get the rough end of the stick media wise etc... Your constant gloating erodes ones will to absorb any meaningful points your writing's may contain.

    When trump lost in 2020, i dont really recall many here if in fact any getting in your face and gloating about it. A classy bunch here at kb, the great unwashed biker bunch that we are in all.
    food for thought.
    Funny you say that - because from my point of view, the gloating and attempts to rub my face in it haven't stopped since 2016.

    Food for thought indeed.
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    The much beloved and trusted president says, the virus is a hoax, come to my rally - people believe him, attend the rally, contract the virus and die. TDL respknse is Dumbarses - but somehow trump was an amazing president?

    And I do not recall anyone here openly gloating such as you do. Such as "We were right and you were wrong, Trump lost nah, nah nah naaah" kind of gloating. Nearly all your wounds are self inflicted, such as your "people should not be dumb enough to believe the presidents words" as above. How do you not expect to get ridiculed with logic like that? I can say I ppersonally arre not gloating, I'm just open warfare on your never ending line that trump was somehow a great president combined with logic just thus displayed.

    I'll read that link now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    The much beloved and trusted president says, the virus is a hoax, come to my rally - people believe him, attend the rally, contract the virus and die. TDL respknse is Dumbarses
    Okay - which Politician would you trust with your personal safety?

    Does that explain my position better?

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    but somehow trump was an amazing president?
    Yes.

    Good Economy, Good Energy Policy, The Pax Trumpanica, push back against Wokeness etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    And I do not recall anyone here openly gloating such as you do. Such as "We were right and you were wrong, Trump lost nah, nah nah naaah" kind of gloating. Nearly all your wounds are self inflicted, such as your "people should not be dumb enough to believe the presidents words" as above. How do you not expect to get ridiculed with logic like that? I can say I ppersonally arre not gloating, I'm just open warfare on your never ending line that trump was somehow a great president combined with logic just thus displayed.
    On this point, we shall have to agree to disagree - I see every self-righteous expression of Indignation of "Look what Trump has done now", which invariably is based on a combination of half-truths and in some cases outright lies as openly gloating.
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    Wow, that is a very leftest snowflake like position to take!

    And just in case you think my crt report will be biased from a leftie point of view, think again, i pretty much 100 percent agree with the below video... Enjoy


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