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    • Joe : When it comes my turn, will you want me to go?
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    Again with regards to downtime I’d extend Biden the same caveat that I gave trump.

    Lots of serious business decisions in real world and govt happen out on the golf course or similar. The frivolous game of golf was actually invented by the elite to enable a safe controlled environment to have sensitive secret discussions.
    The White House or CEO office is just where the final formalities of paperwork is done
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Again with regards to downtime I’d extend Biden the same caveat that I gave trump.

    Lots of serious business decisions in real world and govt happen out on the golf course or similar. The frivolous game of golf was actually invented by the elite to enable a safe controlled environment to have sensitive secret discussions.
    The White House or CEO office is just where the final formalities of paperwork is done
    Your god David Icke also spouts this

    'Illuminati' (an élite most of us wouldn't join even if they wanted us as members - Bob Hope, the Queen and, inexplicably, Boxcar Willie who trade funny handshakes on golf courses and deliver secret messages hidden inside fortune-cookie canapés at Buck House garden parties.
    He also supports your beliefs on Covid as does Alex Jones....

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    I see you KB Knitting curcle girls are still posting shit.

    Time to update your ignor list ladies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Ok, so Trump being a 10 at being a shitty president, I would say Biden is coming in at a solid 8, maybe 8.5.
    I figured he was not going to be anything great, but he is actually doing really, really bad. You ain't got time for holidays Joe.
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/10/23/p...rom%20%251%24s
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    A fairly accurate take on the current state of US politics right now.


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    Why when he most popular president ever, 84 million votes without even campaigning.
    Build back better into a divided nation aye?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    A fairly accurate take on the current state of US politics right now.

    Some of it was on the Money, some of it was standard Left-Wing fare.

    The biggest Gripe, however, is this line:

    "Why do Republicans vote against their economic interest?
    Because they hate you!"

    This is the part that it went from 'yeah, fair' to 'Nope'.

    Firstly there is the presumption of the virtousness of the Left Wing Position:

    "This is needed", "This is caring", "The rest of the world does it" - all the standard appeals that we've heard before - Case in point - look at Jacinda who touted herself as being Kind - she's now advocating for a Society where you only get to enjoy your basic Freedoms if you carry the right Papers.

    But even deeper than that - Perhaps a Republican might vote against their own Economic Interest because it's contradictory to their own Freedom Interest. This is a long standing Theme of America - that Freedom is the ultimate goal and any sacrifice made in the pursuit of Freedom is noble and worthy: "The tree of Liberty...."

    A Republican might vote against Socialized Healthcare because they want to maintain the Freedom of choice that exists in private-sector system, even if they personally might benefit from such a healthcare system.

    Finally - he's partially onto something but because of his left-wing lean (only a lean, he's not too far-gone) - he can't say that some people automatically reject what the 'opposition' are championing, because they know from where the ideas come from.

    As an example - consider the subject of Sex Education in schools (something with many Christian Conservatives where and still are, deeply unhappy about) - which was mainly brought about by Alfred Kinsey.

    Their argument effectively boils down to 'Only a Pedophile would want to introduce the Subject of Sex and Sexuality to Children' - and given that we know Kinsey used the diary of a Pedophile in his work and the activities of one Helmut Kentler - there's a fair amount of circumstantial evidence to support this claim - and don't think that this is some artifact of History - I've seen snippets of a Primary school teacher in the US (a raving Left-wing loon who has since been fired - thank god) talking about teaching BDSM/Kink activities as part of Sex Ed... to Primary School Children!

    To loop it back: When people hear self-described Marxists, who espouse Marxist rhetorhic (cited or uncited) who then propose 'radical' policies, the rational person is going to dismiss it because they don't trust the good intentions of the author, they suspect that it's an attempt to take another step towards their utopian end goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
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    "Why do Republicans vote against their economic interest?
    Because they hate you!"

    This is the part that it went from 'yeah, fair' to 'Nope'.
    Wrong. That is the exact situation. The middle and lower income people that voted for Trump knew he wouldn't do anything for them. They voted for him because they hoped he would shit on other people. The people they didn't like: the list is long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Wrong. That is the exact situation. The middle and lower income people that voted for Trump knew he wouldn't do anything for them. They voted for him because they hoped he would shit on other people. The people they didn't like: the list is long.
    "Ah yes, those stupid Racist Gammon, why won't they do what we, the enlightened intellectuals tell them to do, if they just did what we wanted - we could create the perfect society"
    - Every Marxist, ever.

    If I'm being charitable, I could agree that some Voted for Trump on his opposition to the insanity that is Wokeness and Social Justice - but that is not a case of 'shitting on other people' that is a case of 'opposition to people who hate your very existence', which is a much more rational response.

    And let's take time to point out how wonderfully things aren't going under Biden with Rampant inflation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Wrong. That is the exact situation. The middle and lower income people that voted for Trump knew he wouldn't do anything for them. They voted for him because they hoped he would shit on other people. The people they didn't like: the list is long.
    Wow talk about projecting leftist ideology!

    If you ever listened to his speeches he was all about American jobs, America first and speaking to their concerns.
    The truth is the lefty just hate his success in life. Hes done very well, yes theres been some big money fails here and there But that’s the nature of high stakes projects
    Yes he’s a politician and their all crooked one way or another but you can’t deny the wins he had in life and the ability to bring big deals together. All things in life are about relationships and he’s someone who has ability to bring people to the table and strike a deal
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    "Ah yes, those stupid Racist Gammon, why won't they do what we, the enlightened intellectuals tell them to do, if they just did what we wanted - we could create the perfect society"
    - Every Marxist, ever.

    If I'm being charitable, I could agree that some Voted for Trump on his opposition to the insanity that is Wokeness and Social Justice - but that is not a case of 'shitting on other people' that is a case of 'opposition to people who hate your very existence', which is a much more rational response.

    And let's take time to point out how wonderfully things aren't going under Biden with Rampant inflation...
    Man, as difficult as it mayseem you're getting worse.

    The American right constantly shout "socialist" or "communist" with zero understanding of what those words mean. About as sensible as people here who think having a vaccine passport is tyranny comparable to Nazi concentration camps.

    Wokeness, social justice and critical race theory are terms that have been degraded. Nobody sane uses them. George Soros is an even better insanity indicator, when I see that I'm done.

    The inflation is international, there's a jump in demand following a major decrease caused by the pandemic. Biden isn't responsible neither is Ardern.

    On second thoughts you might as well have invoked George Soros. Crazy town. Later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Man, as difficult as it mayseem you're getting worse.

    The American right constantly shout "socialist" or "communist" with zero understanding of what those words mean. About as sensible as people here who think having a vaccine passport is tyranny comparable to Nazi concentration camps.
    I mean, I've posted links to the people who created Critical Race Theory, Intersectionality, Social Justice where they explicitly state their Marxist ideals - yet somehow you seem to willfully ignore this?

    Why is that? They aren't subtle about it.

    In case you've missed the umpteen times - here's another:

    https://scholarship.law.columbia.edu...ty_scholarship

    From one Kimberly Crenshaw.

    2 1 must make several comments at the outset. I shall use "African-American" and "Black"
    interchangeably. When using "Black," I shall use an upper-case "B" to reflect my view that
    Blacks, like Asians, Latinos, and other "minorities," constitute a specific cultural group and, as
    such, require denotation as a proper noun. See MacKinnon, Feminism, Marxism, Method, and
    the State: An Agenda for Theory
    Bonus points for the linking of Feminism and Marxism.

    i. The Role of Legal Ideology. - Critical scholars derive their
    vision of legal ideology in part from the work of Antonio Gramsci,
    an Italian neo-Marxist
    theorist who developed an approach to under-
    standing domination that transcends some of the limitations of tradi-
    tional Marxist accounts.7
    There you have it in black and white (Pun intended) any of the 'Critical XXXXX studies' are derived from a Neo Marxist.

    The fact that, more than any other great revolutionary Marxist thinker, he concerned
    himself with the sphere of "civil society" and of "hegemony",
    (that's in reference to Gramsci btw...)

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Wokeness, social justice and critical race theory are terms that have been degraded. Nobody sane uses them.
    Been degraded? From what to what?

    All of it is just re-packaged Marxism. Seriously - I challenge you to read the scholarly articles from where this poison has been created - they aren't shy about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    George Soros is an even better insanity indicator, when I see that I'm done.
    And yet, I've never mentioned him.

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    The inflation is international, there's a jump in demand following a major decrease caused by the pandemic. Biden isn't responsible neither is Ardern.
    And could there have been any policies, any at all that might have aggravated the Inflation? Like printing more money? Rampant Government spending? Extended Lockdowns?

    Because those people are certainly responsible for those Policies

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    On second thoughts you might as well have invoked George Soros. Crazy town. Later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Wow talk about projecting leftist ideology!

    If you ever listened to his speeches he was all about American jobs, America first and speaking to their concerns.
    The truth is the lefty just hate his success in life. Hes done very well, yes theres been some big money fails here and there But that’s the nature of high stakes projects
    Yes he’s a politician and their all crooked one way or another but you can’t deny the wins he had in life and the ability to bring big deals together. All things in life are about relationships and he’s someone who has ability to bring people to the table and strike a deal
    His speeches were nonsense. He was about saving coal jobs, that never happened. He was stopping factories closing. They closed. He was talking to self interest and stupidity. He created a cult.

    His successes are exceedingly limited. He started with a large fortune, basically lost it all. Since then it seems he's been a conduit for Russian money laundering. I'm quite happy to deny his wins in life, they are few, there are far more losses. He didn't even write that book you read.

    All of his properties are bleeding cash, no American banks will lend him money, if the Russians are finished with him, he's finished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    His speeches were nonsense. He was about saving coal jobs, that never happened. He was stopping factories closing. They closed. He was talking to self interest and stupidity. He created a cult.

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    the only thing Trump saved was his mates jail time.


    Charles Kushner
    Tax evasion, witness tampering, and making illegal campaign donations
    Charles Kushner is a wealthy real estate executive and the father of Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law. After Charles Kushner learned that his brother-in-law was cooperating with federal investigators, Kushner hired a prostitute to lure the man into a motel room with a hidden camera, and sent the recording of the subsequent encounter to the man's wife (Kushner's sister) to retaliate against him.Then-U.S. Attorney Chris Christie called the case "one of the most loathsome, disgusting crimes" that he prosecuted. Kushner pleaded guilty to 18 counts, including tax evasion, witness tampering, and violating federal contribution regulations.He was sentenced to two years in prison (and ultimately ended up spending 14 months) and ordered to pay $508,900 to the FEC.After being released, Kushner returned to his real estate businesses.

    Roger Stone
    Making false statements to Congress (five counts),
    Witness tampering,
    Obstructing an official proceeding
    Trump pardoned Stone after commutating his sentence six months earlier

    Conrad Moffat Black
    Mail fraud and attempted obstruction of justice
    Former media mogul, current friend, supporter and biographer of President Trump.[54] Conviction reviewed by the Supreme Court in Black v. United States; convictions later upheld. Released from prison in 2014 and deported to Canada where he was born.

    James Harutun Batmasian
    Willful failure to pay over tax
    Batmasian, a South Florida real-estate investor and property management businessman influential in Boca Raton, pleaded guilty to failing to pay more than quarter-million in payroll tax owed.

    Stephen Bannon
    Conspiracy to commit wire fraud; conspiracy to commit money laundering
    Trump pardoned Bannon, a former top 2016 campaign advisor to Trump and his former White House chief strategist, after Bannon was arrested and indicted in August 2020 on charges of misappropriating money donated to the "We Build the Wall" organization for personal expenses. Bannon had pleaded not guilty and had not yet been brought to trial when Trump issued the pardon. Bannon and Trump had a strained relationship after Bannon left the White House in August 2017; Bannon had criticized Trump's son, and Trump responded by publicly disparaging Bannon. But Bannon returned to Trump's favor after he supported Trump's failed relection campaign and Trump's efforts to overturn the election.[112] Trump did not pardon Bannon's co-defendants: Brian Kolfage, Andrew Badolato, and Timothy Shea, all of whom pleaded not guilt

    Mark Siljander
    Obstruction of justice; acting as an unregistered foreign agent
    Siljander was a Republican congressman from 1981 to 1987, from a southwestern Michigan district. He pleaded guilty in 2010 to acting as an unregistered foreign agent in connection with his work for Islamic American Relief Agency, which hired him in early 2004 to lobby to get the organization removed from a list of Senate committee list of entities suspected of providing funding for terrorism. Siljander also pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice; prosecutors stated that he had falsely claimed payments from IARA were charitable donations. IARA closed in October 2004 after it was added to the Treasury Department's list of global terrorist organizations due to the group's links to Osama bin Laden, al-Qaida and the Taliban. Siljander was never charged with terrorism. In issuing the pardon, the Trump White House cited Siljander's anti-abortion record while a congressman and his post-prison work abroad. Trump's decision to pardon Siljander was criticized by Republican congressman Fred Upton, who succeeded Siljander after defeating him in the 1986 Republican primary

    Carl Andrew Boggs, II
    Conspiracy to defraud the United States Department of Transportation and money laundering
    His paving business, Boggs Paving Inc,, accepted a contract with South Carolina Department of Transportation to widen Interstate 26 through Lexington and Calhoun counties in 2013. Following the mismanaged project, Boggs and four of his employees were convicted of crimes related to the use of a disadvantaged business enterprise to obtain $88 million in government contracts

    John Frederick Tate and Jesse R. Benton
    Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States; causing false records; causing false campaign contribution reports; false statements scheme Benton and Tate were Ron Paul's campaign chairman and campaign manager, respectively, during Paul's unsuccessful 2012 campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. They were convicted at trial of concealing payments of $73,000 to state Senator Kent Sorenson in exchange for Sorenson's switching of his endorsement from Michele Bachmann to Paul ahead of the Iowa caucus. (The payments were disguised as "audio/visual expenses"). Senior U.S. District Judge Robert Pratt (who oversaw the criminal case against Sorenson) ridiculed Trump's pardon, saying, "It's not surprising that a criminal like Trump pardons other criminals.

    Elliott Broidy
    Securities fraud (insider trading)
    Brownstein, a hedge fund operator and son of prominent Denver, Colorado attorney and lobbyist Norman Brownstein, pleaded guilty in 2012 to insider trading. His company made a $2.44 million profit from an trade in energy companies that he made after learning about a pending corporate acquisition from a friend

    Elliott Broidy
    conspiracy to serve as an unregistered agent of a foreign principal
    Broidy, a California businessman and Republican fundraiser, was a major donor to Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and Trump's inauguration, and was also a deputy finance chairman for the Republican National Committee. He pleaded guilty in October 2020 to conspiring to violate foreign lobbying laws by accepting $9 million from Jho Low, a fugitive Malaysian businessman, in order to influence the Trump administration's Justice Department to drop its investigation into fraud and embezzlement at the Malaysian sovereign wealth fund 1MDB (see 1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal), and by seeking to extradite wealthy Chinese dissident Guo Wengui from the United States as part of a bid to get payoffs from China and the United Arab Emirates. As part of his guilty plea, Broidy admitted that he knowingly failed to register as a foreign agent and agreed to forfeit $6.6 million. Broidy faced a sentencing hearing in February 2021 before Trump pardoned him on his last day in office.[118] Trump did not pardon Nickie Lum Davis, a Hawaii businesswoman who had pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting Broidy's crimes, and who had cooperated with the government; Lum Davis's attorney called Trump's decision to grant clemency to Broidy, but not his less culpable underling, "incomprehensible" and unjust

    James Austin Hayes, IV
    Insider trading conspiracy
    Hayes was one of several people convicted of particiting in an insider trading ring that operated between 2010 and 2012 led by a Wells Fargo employee who disclosed confidential information about impending mergers

    William E. "Ed" Henry
    Theft of government property
    Henry was a former Republican member of the Alabama House of Representatives. He pleaded guilty in January 2019 to aiding and abetting theft of government property in connection with his involvement in a Medicare fraud scheme. Alabama's Republican U.S. Senator, Tommy Tuberville, supported the pardon

    Hillel "Helly" Nahmad
    Illegal gambling
    Helly Nahmad is a Madison Avenue art dealer who is a member of the wealthy Nahmad family and son of the noted art collector David Nahmad. The younger Nahmad owns the entirety of Trump Tower's 51st floor, reportedly purchased at the cost of $21 million. He pleaded guilty to organizing an illegal $100 million gambling ring with suspected links to Russian organized crime out of Trump Tower. His art gallery in New York's Carlyle Hotel was raided by federal agents in 2013; Nahmad later pleaded guilty and was sentenced in 2014. He was also ordered to forfeit $6.4 million in earnings.Alimzhan Tokhtakhunov was indicted in connection with the case, but was never arrested


    Richard George (Rick) Renzi
    Conspiracy to commit extortion, attempted extortion and wire and mail fraud; honest wire services wire fraud (six counts); conspiracy to commit money laundering; concealment of money laundering; transactions with criminally derived funds (two counts); extortion under color of official right (two counts); conspiracy to make false statement; insurance fraud (two counts); racketeering
    Renzi, a former Republican congressman from 2003 to 2009 from a northeastern Arizona district, was convicted in 2013 on 17 federal counts, including racketeering, money laundering, extortion, and filing false statements with regulators. He served three years in prison and was released in 2017. Renzi denied wrongdoing and insisted that the prosecution was politically motivated

    Douglas Jemal
    Wire fraud
    Jemal, age 79 at the time of the pardon, was an influential Washington, D.C., real estate developer who was convicted of wire fraud in 2006 in connection with an efforts to influence a local government official to obtain profitable government leases. Jemal's leasing chief and two other employees were also convicted on varying charges. Jemal has been a major political donor to both parties over the years, and is a friend of Jared Kushner; he donated $100,000 to the Republican National Committee in 2020. In issuing the pardon, the White House referred to Jemal's charitable work and said he was "credited with rebuilding many urban inner cities." Trump did not grant pardons to Jemal's underlings; this was criticized by the lead prosecutor on the case, who said that the subordinates were "far less culpable" than Jemal and that the pardon sent a message "that there are two standards of accountability: One for the wealthy and well-connected, and one for everyone else

    Robert Zangrillo
    Conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and honest services mail and wire fraud; conspiracy to commit federal programs bribery; money laundering conspiracy; wire fraud and honest services wire fraud (six counts); federal programs bribery (two counts); filing a false tax return
    Zangrillo is a prominent Miami businessman and the founder of the private investment firm Dragon Global. He was arrested in March 2019 and charged with taking part in the Varsity Blues college admissions bribery scheme by paying $250,000 to get his daughter accepted as a transfer student to the University of Southern California (USC). Zangrillo pleaded not guilty, and prior to the pardon, he was set to stand trial in September 2021. The White House said that the pardon was supported by USC alumnus and university trustee Thomas J. Barrack Jr., a longtime Trump friend who chaired his inauguration committee. However, Barrack denied involvement in the pardon

    Albert J. (Al) Pirro, Jr.
    Conspiracy to defraud the United States; tax evasion (four counts); fraud (29 counts)
    Pirro, a former power broker in New York Republican politics, is the former husband of Jeanine Pirro, the Fox News host and consistent Trump all

    Casey Urlacher
    Conspiracy to defraud the United States; illegal gambling; money laundering
    Casey Urlacher is the mayor of Mettawa, Illinois, and the younger brother of former Chicago Bears player Brian Urlacher, who visited the Trump White House in March 2020 and contributed to Republican and Trump's campaigns and Republican organizations. In February 2020, Casey Urlacher was indicted on two counts of conspiring to engage in illegal offshore gambling in connection with his recruitment of bettors for a Costa Rica-based website in exchange for a cut of the proceeds. Urlacher was one of 10 people charged in the federal grand jury indictment; none of the others received pardons. The Republican leader in the Illinois State Senate, Dan McConchie, who defeated Urlacher in a 2016 primary election, criticized the pardon of an indicted defendant who had not yet been convicted, saying: "Pardons should be done on the merits of the case, not based on a relationship with the President. This sort of practice undermines the public's faith in our system. We're supposed to be a nation of laws, not one based on people getting benefits just because of who they know

    Kenneth Kurson aka Jayden Wagner, Eddie Train
    Interstate stalking and harassment
    Kurson, an ally of the Trump family, was appointed the editor-in-chief of The New York Observer in 2013 by Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who at the time owned the newspaper. Kurson and Kushner became close friends. Kurson also wrote a speech for Trump in his 2016 campaign, and was a longtime associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, Trump's lawyer. In October 2020, Kurson was charged with cyberstalking three people and harassing two other people.[129] He was pardoned on the last full day of Trump's term, before he could stand trial

    Anthony Scott Levandowski
    Theft and attempted theft of trade secrets
    Levandowski, age 40 at the time of the pardon, stole trade secrets from Google's autonomous vehicle company Waymo, where he was an engineer, after he had left the company and was negotiating a position at Uber; Levandowski pleaded guilty as part of a plea deal, and was sentenced in August 2020 to 18 months' imprisonment. Levandowski's request for a pardon was supported by billionaire Trump ally Peter Thiel. as well as others

    Glen Moss
    Payment to non-licensed physician; attempt to evade or defeat tax
    Moss, a member of the Trump's golf club in Westchester County, New York, was listed as donating $10,000 to the Trump Foundation in 2008. Trump pardoned him for his involvement in a health-care fraud scheme

    Michael A. Liberty
    Political contributions in the names of others and aiding and abetting
    Liberty is a former Maine developer who pleaded guilty in 2016 to unlawfully donating $22,500 in 2011 to the primary campaign of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney in violation of the federal campaign contribution limit ($2,500). He was sentenced to four months' imprisonment, one year of supervised release, and $100,000 fine, and was released from federal prison in 2018. In subsequent years, he donated to Republican organizations and Trump's campaign. A federal grand jury in 2019 indicted him and an associate on charges of scamming $50 million from investors; they have pleaded not guilty. At the time of the pardon, Liberty was living in Florida

    Abel Holtz
    Obstruction of justice Holtz, an influential Miami,
    Florida banker and philanthropist who founded Capital Bank, pleaded guilty in October 1994 to lying to a federal grand jury about paying tens of thousands of dollars in bribes to Alex Daoud, a corrupt city commissioner (and later mayor) of Miami Beach. Holtz's previous 2006 pardon application was denied by President George W. Bush

    George Gilmore
    Two counts of failing to pay payroll taxes to the IRS and one count of making false statements on a bank loan application
    Gilmore was the former chairman of the Ocean County, New Jersey Republican Party, and a power broker in New Jersey Republican politics. He was convicted by a jury in 2019, but maintained that he was innocent and contended that his failure to make timely payments owed to the IRS was attributable to a hoarding disorder. He was sentenced in 2020, but was free on bail pending the appeal. Bill Stepien, Trump's former campaign manager and a longtime associate of Gilmore's, lobbied for the pardon, which was supported by other influential New Jersey figures, such as Chris Christie, Jim McGreevey, Jim Florio, Donald DiFrancesco, Kim Guadagno, and Tom MacArthur.

    Tommaso Buti
    Conspiracy to defraud the United States; fraud by wire, radio, or television (35 counts); scheme to defraud: money, state tax stamps (transportation of stolen property (14 counts); money laundering - racketeering (laundering monetary instruments conspiracy)
    Buti, a prominent restaurateur, had partnered with Trump in the late 1990s on Trump Management, a modeling agency. He was subsequently investigated on allegations of stealing from his chain of restaurants, and was indicted in 2000. Buti denied wrongdoing and was tried and acquitted on similar charges in his native Italy. He was never extradited to New York to stand trial on the U.S. charges, and Trump's pardon terminated the still-open case against him

    Paul L. Behrens
    Making false statements relating to health care matters (two counts); health care fraud (two counts)
    Behrens, a former chief financial officer of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans, pleaded guilty to a charge involving a false statement in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid.

    Paul L. Behrens Making false statements relating to health care matters (two counts); health care fraud (two counts)
    Behrens, a former chief financial officer of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans, pleaded guilty to a charge involving a false statement in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid.

    Thaddeus M. S. Bereday
    Making false statements relating to health care matters
    Bereday is the former general counsel of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans; he was convicted in 2013 of fraud and making false statements in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid.

    J Peter E. Clay
    Making false statements (two counts)
    Clay is a former vice president of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans; he was convicted in 2013 of fraud and making false statements in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid.

    Randall Harold "Duke" Cunningham
    Conspiracy to commit crimes against the United States; tax evasion
    Cunningham, a former seven-term Republican congressman from a San Diego, California-based district, pleaded guilty in 2005 to conspiracy and tax evasion for taking $2 million in bribes from defense contractors in exchange for federal contracts, possibly the largest bribery scandal in the history of the U.S. Congress (see Cunningham scandal). He served eight years in federal prison, and lived in Arkansas after his release.[102] Cunningham kept a "bribe menu" on congressional stationery listing the payments military contractors should make to him in exchange for his help securing government contracts.[103] The pardon is conditional and preserves Cunningham's court-ordered obligation to pay off the $3.6 million in restitution and forfeiture.[102] Trump's pardon of Cunningham was condemned by the federal prosecutors who led the case, as well as others

    Paul Erickson
    Wire fraud; money laundering
    Erickson, a Republican political operative, pleaded guilty to charges of wire fraud and money laundering; court records stated that he was part of schemes that bilked $5.3 million from 78 investors from 1996 to 2018, including a scheme involving fake housing in the Baaken oil fields in North Dakota. Erickson told investors that they would receive returns of up to 150%; he spent the money received from the scheme on personal expenses, including for Maria Butina, to whom Erickson was romantically linked. Butina was later revealed to be a Russian agent. Erickson was sentenced to seven years in prison, and was serving his sentence at the time Trump pardoned him. In issuing the pardon, Trump's White House asserted that Erickson had committed only a "minor financial crime." Trump's aide Kellyanne Conway advocated for the pardon

    Todd S. Farha
    Health care fraud (two counts)
    Farha is the former president and CEO of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans; he was convicted in 2013 of fraud and making false statements in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid.

    William L. Kale
    Health care fraud (two counts)
    Kale is the former vice president of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans; he was convicted in 2013 of fraud and making false statements in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid.

    David Tamman
    Conspiracy to obstruct justice; destruction, alteration, falsification of records, aiding and abetting, causing an act to be done; accessory after the fact; obstruction of justice, aiding and abetting
    Tamman, a former partner at the law firms Nixon Peabody and Greenberg Traurig, was convicted of 2012 for conspiring with a client to obstruct a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigation into a $22 million Ponzi scheme. Tamman was fired by the law firms and disbarred by the State Bar of California in 2016. Alan Dershowitz, who was one of Trump's lawyers, represented Tamman in his unsuccessful appeal. Convicted in 2012, Tamman was released from prison in February 2019. His pardon was supported by the Aleph Institute, which was influential in Trump's clemency decisionmaking; the Trump White House also stated that former FBI director Louis Freeh and former federal prosecutor Kendall Coffey supported the pardon

    Robert Cannon Hayes
    False statements
    Hayes, a former Republican congressman from North Carolina (1999–2009) and former chairman of the North Carolina Republican Party, pleaded guilty in 2019 to lying to the FBI regarding a scheme by Greg Lindberg, billionaire insurance businessman and political donor, to bribe Insurance Commission Mike Causey. In addition to Hayes, Lindberg and two of his associated were charged. Causey, who contacted law enforcement authorities and helped them investigate, was never accused of wrongdoin

    Thomas K. (Ken) Ford
    Violating mandatory safety standards; making false material statements and representations
    Ford, who pleaded guilty in 2003 to making false statements to federal mining regulators, later became an executive at a Western Kentucky coal company

    Paul J. Manafort
    Five counts of tax fraud, two counts of bank fraud, and one count of failing to disclose a hidden foreign bank account; two counts of conspiracy
    Like Stone, Van der Zwaan, and Papadopoulos, Manafort was also prosecuted during the Special Counsel investigation (2017–2019). Manafort spent less than two years in prison, having been released to home detention in May 2020 as part of an effort to reduce prison populations during the COVID-19 pandemic.[91] Because Trump's pardon was unconditional, the Department of Justice dropped a criminal forfeiture proceeding to obtain the properties held by Manafort: a Bridgehampton, Long Island mansion, an apartment in Chinatown, Manhattan, and a Brooklyn townhouse

    Patrick James Nolan
    Conducting the affairs of an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering
    Former Republican lawmaker who pled guilty to soliciting for illegal campaign donations after being caught by the Shrimpscam sting operation by the FBI. Ultimately served 26 months; released in 1996 and became an activist for criminal-justice reform

    Edward J. DeBartolo Jr.
    Misprision of felony
    DeBartolo, the former owner of the San Francisco 49ers, pleaded guilty in 1998 to concealing an extortion attempt; in 1997, he met former governor of Louisiana, Edwin Edwards, and gave him $400,000 in exchange for Edwards' help obtaining a license from the gaming board to allow Hollywood Casino Corp. (in which DeBartolo was an investor) to operate a riverboat casino

    Michael Milken
    Conspiracy; securities fraud; mail fraud; tax fraud; filing false reports with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC); assisting a brokerage firm in violating its net capital requirements
    In pardoning financier Milken,
    Trump cited his charitable work after his release from prison. Milken's separate, SEC-imposed lifetime ban on securities trading continues

    Dinesh D'Souza
    Campaign finance violations
    In 2014, conservative commentator D'Souza pleaded guilty to making illegal campaign contributions to the 2012 Senate campaign of his Republican friend, Wendy Long.

    I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby
    Perjury (two counts), obstruction of justice and false statements
    Previously an aide to former vice president Dick Cheney. Convicted in connection with the CIA leak scandal. Pardoned following an earlier commutation by President George W. Bush in July 2007

    Angela Ronae Stanton (Angela Stanton-King)
    Conspiracy to transport in interstate commerce a stolen motor vehicle and tampering with a vehicle identification number (VIN) (17 counts)
    Angela Stanton ran in the 2020 election as a Republican against Representative John Lewis[64] and then to fill his seat after Lewis's death.

    Ariel Manuel Friedler
    Conspiracy to access a protected computer without authorization
    The former CEO of an education software business, Friedler used the Tor network to mask his identity while he accessed his rivals' systems using those credentials to harvest their contacts database as well as snoop on their software design and features. Former New Jersey governor Chris Christie lobbied for Friedler's pardon

    David Hossein Safavian
    Obstruction of justice and perjury (three counts)
    Safavian is a Republican former lawyer and long-time associate of lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Through much of his career, he alternated between government roles and Washington lobbyist roles, in what is known as the "revolving door". He was serving as Administrator for Federal Procurement Policy, Office of Management and Budget, when he was arrested in connection with the Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal.

    Jon Donyae Ponder
    Bank robbery; interference with commerce by armed robbery (six counts)
    Ponder's work was put into the national spotlight when President Donald Trump granted him a pardon during the 2020 Republican National Convention. The pardon was publicized shortly before Ponder was scheduled to appear as a speaker at the event.

    Michael T. Flynn
    Making false statements to Federal investigators

    George Papadopoulos foreign policy advisor Trump
    Making false statements
    Papadopoulos was the first individual to be prosecuted in the Special Counsel investigation (2017–2019)

    Alex van der Zwaan
    Making false statements
    A Dutch attorney, Van der Zwaan was prosecuted in under the Special Counsel investigation (2017–2019)
    Flynn pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI in December 2017, during the Special Counsel in
    vestigation (2017–2019), but his sentencing was delayed


    Duncan D. Hunter
    Misusing campaign funds
    A former United States representative, Hunter was set to begin his sentence in January 2020

    Christopher Carl Collins
    Making false statements, conspiracy to commit securities fraud Collins is a former Republican congressman and a staunch Trump supporter; he pleaded guilty in 2019 to an insider trading scheme.[76] Collins' son Cameron Collins, who pleaded guilty to participating in the crime and was sentenced to probation, was not pardoned by Trump

    Bernard Kerik
    Obstructing the administration of the Internal Revenue Laws; aiding in the preparation of a false income tax return; making false statements on a loan application; making false statements (five counts)
    Kerik, the former New York City police commissioner, has been a contributor to Fox News. His pardon had been urged by Rudolph W. Giuliani

    Alfonso Antonio Costa
    Health care fraud
    Costa, a former Pittsburgh dentist-turned-developer who became a friend and business partner of Ben Carson, Trump's Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, pleaded guilty to making fraudulent oral surgery claims; he was sentenced in 2008

    Phillip Kay Lyman
    Conspiracy to operate off-road vehicles on public land closed to off-road vehicles; operation of off-road vehicle on public lands closed to off-road vehicles
    Lyman, a Republican politician was a San Juan County, Utah, county commissioner at the time of the crime and a member of the Utah House of Representatives at the time of the pardon. He led an "ATV protest" in which about 50 ATV riders, seeking to challenge federal management of public lands, drove on the Recapture Canyon in a southeastern Utah, a site containing Native American cliff dwellings. The Bureau of Land Management had closed the area to motorized traffic. Lyman was convicted of misdemeanor trespassing in 2014 and sentenced in 2015. Upon Trump's grant of the pardon, the Trump White House issued a statement asserting that Lyman had been "subjected to selective prosecution

    Margaret E. Hunter
    Conspiracy to commit offenses
    Estranged wife of former U.S. Representative Duncan D. Hunter, whom Trump pardoned the previous day.[86] Trump's earlier pardon of the ex-congressman drew criticism from local officials and from the federal prosecutor on the case for omitting the ex-congressman's wife, who had pleaded guilty and cooperated with prosecutors

    Paul Pogue
    Making and subscribing a false tax return
    Pogue, the founder and executive of McKinney, Texas-based construction company Pogue Construction, pleaded guilty in 2010 for under-reporting his taxable income in 2004, 2005 and 2006,[66] failing to pay more than $400,000 taxes owed.[67] In 2019, Pogue's son Ben Pogue and daughter-in-law Ashleigh Pogue gave a total of $238,541 to Trump Victory, a vehicle for Trump's reelection campaign.[67] Former Republican senator Rick Santorum was a leading advocate for Pogue's pardon; Paul Pogue had been a contributor to Santorum's presidential election bid
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