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    2030 Petrol Vehicle Ban

    Thought you guys might be interested in this 'great idea' by the Ministry of Transport in a proposal about to be delivered to the government.

    TLDR; unless opposed, the government are likely to ban imports of light Internal Combustion Engine vehicles by 2030 or 2035 and ban ownership completely by 2050.

    Is this something you have a problem with? If so, tell them about it by sending a submission to transportemissions@transport.govt.nz before Friday 25th of June (that's this Friday!).



    MOT Discussion Document:
    https://www.transport.govt.nz/assets...cussionDoc.pdf - Page 105 & 114

    Govt Press Release & Other Relevant Info:

    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/...port-emissions
    https://www.transport.govt.nz/area-o...climate-change


    I personally have no problem with electric cars, but I DO have a problem with the government telling me what kind of car I can own!

    Speak up now or this may come to pass!!



    Pass this on to others who may be interested as well!

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    Seems a sure way for a government to loose an election.
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Seems a sure way for a government to loose an election.
    My FIRST thoughts on the subject exactly ... Judith Collins for PM ... ???????????

    COULD it happen ... ??
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    I have no problem with any of it at this point. i'll be dead by then anyway. And look around you a little - manufacture of petrol powered vehicles will have ceased by then.
    What you need to do is join one of the various clubs or organisations working for historic vehicle exemptions.

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    Already being discussed here ...

    https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...Z-petrol-power

    The good communists never “ban” anything it will just be taxed into oblivion....

    Remember all the hysteria around peak oil a few years ago... we should be well and truely on other side of bell curve by now paying horrific prices and constrained supply but we are not.....

    I see fluff news had some wanky article headlined about an EV doing a 9000km trip around NZ in 100 days.... FFS that’s only 90km a day average or one hours open road driving and they call it a success!!!!

    That’s prob a hint at our future though as to what level of long term use of the EV makes its lifespan sustainable, eg higher repeated use of long journeys prob shortens battery lifespan making it a net loss over say 15 years compared to petrol

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Seems a sure way for a government to loose an election.
    You may well be right, but if no-one speaks up they'll take it as silent approval...

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    The good communists...
    No such thing.
    TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    ... I see fluff news had some wanky article headlined about an EV doing a 9000km trip around NZ in 100 days.... FFS that’s only 90km a day average or one hours open road driving and they call it a success!!!!

    That’s prob a hint at our future though as to what level of long term use of the EV makes its lifespan sustainable, eg higher repeated use of long journeys prob shortens battery lifespan making it a net loss over say 15 years compared to petrol
    So they took the better part of 3 months to do it. How many can afford to take 3 months holiday to make a similar trip. And most likely the battery will be fucked at the end of the trip.

    However ... I can see rental companies doing a swap at depot's around the country. Drive into the depot and swap it for a charged one and you're on your way.
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    I don't care there will always be a collectors license or similar. The analogy has been made to me that people still choose to own horses, as inconvenient as that may be, so there will probably always be an avenue for people to own and use ICE motorcycles.

    In saying that, as soon as KTM / BMW release a big ADV bike with replaceable battery (ie you pull into energy station and swap out 50kg battery with a new one off the rack, similar to bbq bottles) and you have another 500km range (with all the extra performance an electric motor can provide) i'll be first in queue.

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    For anyone who doesn't think governments will ban Petrol powered vehicles:

    Canada Kills New Internal Combustion Vehicle Sales Starting In 2035

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamboNZ View Post
    For anyone who doesn't think governments will ban Petrol powered vehicles:

    Canada Kills New Internal Combustion Vehicle Sales Starting In 2035
    If a week is a long time in politics then 14 years is an aeon. A lot could happen between then now and then.
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamboNZ View Post
    For anyone who doesn't think governments will ban Petrol powered vehicles:

    Canada Kills New Internal Combustion Vehicle Sales Starting In 2035
    Also not a “ban on petrol powered vehicles,” just a ban on selling new ones. With quite a few exceptions for trucks and commercial vehicles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Sichoe View Post
    I don't care there will always be a collectors license or similar.
    And the cost to get such a license would be exorbitant. And the amount time/circumstances (dated permits required .. ??) that you will actually be allowed to use them very limited.

    But I'm of the opinion ... that internal combustion engines will be banned from inner city areas first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    And the cost to get such a license would be exorbitant. And the amount time/circumstances (dated permits required .. ??) that you will actually be allowed to use them very limited.

    But I'm of the opinion ... that internal combustion engines will be banned from inner city areas first.
    That may be how it works - or not. There may be social engineering to categorise recreational use of fossil fueled vehicles as anti-social.

    Anyhoo, it's very unlikely that it will be a problem for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    ... Anyhoo, it's very unlikely that it will be a problem for me.
    Nor me ...
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