My older brother and partner live in the UK
They are both fully vax
His partner had a breakthrough infection
He didnt get it despite caring for her. She had mild symptoms and recovered at home which is why you should get vaccinated.
My older brother and partner live in the UK
They are both fully vax
His partner had a breakthrough infection
He didnt get it despite caring for her. She had mild symptoms and recovered at home which is why you should get vaccinated.
Cindy could make another chch call.... they made a massive deal (rightly so) overvthe death of 52 people. Yet how many people are dying due to vaccine misinformation, surely thousands if we believe the published efficiacy....
But maybe they want us divided and arguing amongst ourselves?
Or it could just be your garden variety govt inconsistentcies....
Govt gives you nothing because it creates nothing - Javier Milei
Or it could be that some people are easily led idiots, who would prefer to believe internet conspiracy theories than actual science.
Or some people will just argue against the 'mainstream media' line, just on principle, because they're contrary pricks.
The interesting news is that a huge proportion of people (as in almost all of them) dying from covid overseas are unvaccinated, so they're weeding themselves out of the gene pool rather effectively.
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You're crossing over into Jehova's Witness territory there. Hospitals provide care up to the level the JW will accept.
I'd argue it's at least safer for the community at large to have covictims die within a controlled environment. Imagine dying in front of a crowd of unvaccinated family and friends who then spread it further. Harsh if family want to be there - but safer for everyone else.
Hospitals in the US (and elsewhere?) when inundated send patients home untreated. This was happening early on but it's happening more now apparently.
There ws a report yesterday of a guy who tried forty hospitals, couldn't get admitted anywhere. He died trying.
It strikes me as strange that it's Republican politicians who are against lockdowns, masks, vaccines, and any other counter measure. It's predominantly their voters that adopt this attitude and they are dying at a number approaching 2000 a day. Every day. Killing off your voters does seem an odd policy.
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Currently nearly two thousand a day in the US of A.
If we followed the British pattern of indecision making we would have some 10,000 deaths instead of less than thirty. So far so good. When the virus does hit us seriously following the opening of our borders, Darwin's law will be enacted.
I was talking to a guy last night who has decided not to be vaccinated. For several reasons he would seem to be at high risk of serious harm from the vaccine.
He reminded me of a social media post I'd seen the day prior by a US nurse working in one of the southern states. She was talking to a guy about vaccinations. He told her that he didn't need a vaccination, his health preconditions would mean he would be admitted to hospital as a priority. She told him that was not how it worked now. Patients arriving were assessed as to the likelyhhod of their survival, and due to the dire situation, only those most likely to survive were treated. She said that she saw in his eyes that the message had gone in.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Yes next year we will be hit hard for several reasons. The early adopters of the vax will have waning protection as demonstrated in the Israel situation where a large portion were vaccinated 9 months ago...
Absent some decent booster shots we will be in a serious situation when the new vaccine passport allows free travel for many. The real worry is many early adopters were in health and the border/logistics....
Couple that with Afern saying we materially can’t afford as a country to be doing level 4 lockdowns much longer.
You can already see people getting complacent in the workplace sanitisation routines and social distancing... people developing false sense of security...
Buckle up and stock your pantry/bar/toolshed season three is here soon...
Govt gives you nothing because it creates nothing - Javier Milei
Hard for the likes of you that kept telling us Covid was not a threat.
Yes of course merely illustrating we are entering a time of a false sense of security... there’s about to be travel opened up along with large concerts etc. Overseas countries have exposed all of their weak people already where as here technically very few have been exposed to even the original virus. We will be soley reliant but on the vax working properly. Interesting times..,,
Govt gives you nothing because it creates nothing - Javier Milei
Apparently Idaho had a renowned epidemiologist but he wouldn't follow the party line, he talked sense. He was sacked and replaced by an unqualified guy who was opposed to masks and vaccinations. He recommended vitamin K and Ivermectin. Idaho has now announced a medical emergency, the hospitals are almost at 100% capacity and all treatments and surgeries except COVID have been postponed.
I seem to recall reading that Tennessee now has the most cases. They must be going some to beat Texas and Florida or the other broke arsed southern states.
The Lincoln Project has but this out about Texas. Impressive numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK11VkicTzo
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