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    Jesus Krist! How is that cheating?


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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Jesus Krist! How is that cheating?


    [Edit] I've been sucked in haven't I? Sorry it was early.
    Herewith the detail:

    https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/a...the-tyre-rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Herewith the detail:

    https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/a...the-tyre-rules

    Oxley says he hopes there will be a meeting at the next round to discuss the situation. There will be now...
    None of this seemed to be an issue when Bridgestone was the supplier so how come it is with Michelin?
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    In the article, Oxley says
    Michelin’s super-sensitive front slick, which needs to operate at exactly the right temperature and pressure to perform at its best.
    That's why I think... if you dont get the feels, you dont get the speed.
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    Jezzuz. Let them whatever pressure. Fukn pansies.

    I do like Oxleys columns. They started getting blocked behind a subscription wall which got all to difficult. Subscription was quite high which would be ok if you had interest in the rest of the site, but I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    None of this seemed to be an issue when Bridgestone was the supplier so how come it is with Michelin?
    Simply put, (very simply) tyres only perform properly within a certain temperature range. The higher the performance, the narrower the range. In this case the performance level is extreme so the range is extremely narrow. No such thing as a free lunch and all that.

    This leads to problems, a rider slowed for a lap or so can crash when he gets going because his tyres have cooled. Last season some riders had problems with the front tyre overheating when they were closely following another bike for several laps.

    Tyres cooling was a problem with Bridgestone too for the same reason.

    The WSBK system would work. Random pressure checks on the grid. Incorrect pressure? The bike is removed from the grid and starts from pit lane.
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    Random pressure test won't help if they're already monitored. Just all seems a little silly and I would suggest the pressure specs need to be re-thought
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    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Do what you want on the front. 50psi in the rear. No traction control and bring back Gary McCoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Do what you want on the front. 50psi in the rear. No traction control and bring back Gary McCoy.
    He's busy running a restaurant. Leave Gary alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    Random pressure test won't help if they're already monitored. Just all seems a little silly and I would suggest the pressure specs need to be re-thought
    Yeh, the story broke because they have the tire pressures from throughout the race..
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    If there was an advantage running below the spec threshold, perhaps lower the threshold. It seems like everything these last few seasons relies on the super small temp window of the Michelin tyre, if lower pressure helps, do it and have better races?
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    So, if the tire gets too hot (high pressure) its dangerous, but if the pressure is too low its dangerous, but if they get the pressure right (lower than allowed) it prevents the first issue.

    or something.
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    Something like that. There must be a bit of lee-way built in obvs.
    Would love to see historical data, perhaps the Ducati thrives with a smidgen less pressure? Because that thing was off its tits fast with Pecco
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by iYRe View Post
    In the article, Oxley says
    That's why I think... if you dont get the feels, you dont get the speed.
    come in Maverick over......

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Jezzuz. Let them whatever pressure. Fukn pansies.

    I do like Oxleys columns. They started getting blocked behind a subscription wall which got all to difficult. Subscription was quite high which would be ok if you had interest in the rest of the site, but I don't.
    I have a motomatters sub sometime i get access to an Oxley article through them

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