Moto GP 2022

[george formby]

I think Rossi said something like that...

The thing is, its going past the limits that means you can pass the guy in front who is at the limits of his electronics.. and use the aero/engine/bugdet

I think thats the point I was making, although that was a few hours ago and my memory is failing

In hindsight, discussion of the electronics and how best to use them has died off and riders are still launching into the kitty litter so hopefully it will be quite some time before it turns into a video game.

Any hoo, who's the nipper that's landed with a bang in Moto 3? He's not shy.

[Autech]

I do find the irony in the fact that they dumbed the electronics down to cut costs, so the engineers found another area to spend even more money than they ever did on their own electronics.

Time for another regulation shake up maybe?

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[BMWST?]

How do we pick a Champ out of this years crop, I wouldn't dare ! I think you have to get to some GP's and talk to teams and get all the inside goss ? Otherwise you may as will ask Stuff.com !!!!! or the Herald.

All the new young guys seem good but I miss the MM, Rossi , Lorenzo etc etc in other words the Aliens.

You have to be good to get to GP level, but then there's the Elite,the top line dudes .

My picks would be Bagnia and my Fav Fabio Q, the rest like AE will pull off the odd win or good ride but I wouldn't be guessing on KTM or Aprillia...or any of their riders....

I await to be proved wrong.... Motogp is in a flat phase I think ?

I wish the Yamahas would give #20 a new engine or a V4 or Bagnia to settle and be consistant... Am I that wrong ????

a morepowerful yamaha will be compromised in other ways. The Ducati still cant turn like the Yamaha

[James Deuce]

On crash net old Heuwen (spelling? meh) was talking about how motogp is better than F1, because in f1 is all about the car. Swap hamilton into a lesser car, and the lesser driver into hamiltons car, and the lesser driver will win. It doesnt work that way in motoGP. The rider still makes a difference. The danger is, imho, it is becoming less and less about the rider.

Have you watched any F1 this year? That comment definitely doesn't stack up.

[iYRe]

Have you watched any F1 this year? That comment definitely doesn't stack up.

nah, I find it a bit boring, and I have to fight the missus and the kids for access to TV's etc - sport watching time is precious, so IoM, MotoGP, Cycling, and rugby :P There only so many hours in a day

[James Deuce]

nah, I find it a bit boring, and I have to fight the missus and the kids for access to TV's etc - sport watching time is precious, so IoM, MotoGP, Cycling, and rugby :P There only so many hours in a day

Hamilton is not all that. The Mercedes is not up with the Ferraris and Redbulls at all and the only thing they are better at is race strategy. They finish higher than they should and generally Hamilton is being out qualified and out raced by his much younger team mate.

[iYRe]

Hamilton is not all that. The Mercedes is not up with the Ferraris and Redbulls at all and the only thing they are better at is race strategy. They finish higher than they should and generally Hamilton is being out qualified and out raced by his much younger team mate.

Yeah, I think that makes the point doesnt it? Its the faster car, not necessarily the driver? When Mercedes was the fastest a few years ago, take out Hamilton and put in one of the other drivers and chances are they'd win, because its more car than driver, where MotoGP its more the rider than the bike. Say, 80/20 to the car in F1, and 60/40 the bike in MotoGP. The bike still makes a difference, but someone like MM who can put it over the limit and hold it, or save those low sides, etc, those are the differences that win GP's (and also cause misjudgments which cause injuries as well.. right?)

[James Deuce]

Yeah, I think that makes the point doesnt it? Its the faster car, not necessarily the driver? When Mercedes was the fastest a few years ago, take out Hamilton and put in one of the other drivers and chances are they'd win, because its more car than driver, where MotoGP its more the rider than the bike. Say, 80/20 to the car in F1, and 60/40 the bike in MotoGP. The bike still makes a difference, but someone like MM who can put it over the limit and hold it, or save those low sides, etc, those are the differences that win GP's (and also cause misjudgments which cause injuries as well.. right?)

No, it doesn't make the point. Hamilton should be a LOT faster than Russell, if that was the point, experience and team favouritism should work in his favour. Instead he's not winning every week so his head is a little bit done in. MM was always going to ruin his career via injury. He got away with it for a long time. His riding style is aberrant and relied on vastly superior reaction times which do decline with age.

[iYRe]

No, it doesn't make the point. Hamilton should be a LOT faster than Russell, if that was the point, experience and team favouritism should work in his favour. Instead he's not winning every week so his head is a little bit done in. MM was always going to ruin his career via injury. He got away with it for a long time. His riding style is aberrant and relied on vastly superior reaction times which do decline with age.

That's not what Huewen was saying, he was saying Russell in the fastest car will be more likely to win than Hamilton in a slower car, Hamilton _should_ be the faster/better driver, but its not about the driver, its about the car.

Anyway.. back to MotoGP, apparently Toprak isnt too keen on MotoGP:

[Autech]

I think Toprak doesn't really have a factory spot available, so he's just saying that.
If one of the factory teams (which we now have 1 less of) decided to take a punt he'd for sure take it. But why risk it? He's 25 years old and will no doubt need at least a few seasons to learn how to ride a stiff prototype bike putting him at age 27-28, by which time they could have put a young maniac on the bike from the millions waiting for it in moto2 and moto3, probably for a lot let money...

He'll stay in WSBK, it's not like he's up against slower riders there anyways, Rea is the equal of many a GP rider and Bautista we already know could run with the big boys.

[James Deuce]

That's not what Huewen was saying, he was saying Russell in the fastest car will be more likely to win than Hamilton in a slower car, Hamilton _should_ be the faster/better driver, but its not about the driver, its about the car.

Yeah and I don't agree with him.

[iYRe]

I dont know why more of them dont do that. Imagine if MM went to WSBK - hehe.

[Autech]

I dont know why more of them dont do that. Imagine if MM went to WSBK - hehe.

I was thinking bout the other Marquez the other day actually (and how he should get his arse off that seat lol), Alex. Imagine him going to WSBK and winning the title the same year as MM winning another motogp title (which I hope he's capable of doing again one day).

Now that would be something.

Also, you lot talking F1, I damn near fell asleep reading about it

[iYRe]

I was thinking bout the other Marquez the other day actually (and how he should get his arse off that seat lol), Alex. Imagine him going to WSBK and winning the title the same year as MM winning another motogp title (which I hope he's capable of doing again one day).

Now that would be something.

Also, you lot talking F1, I damn near fell asleep reading about it

haha, yeah that would be amazing.

And yep, I dont watch F1 personally for that reason.. It was Keith Huewens comment not mine :P

[Reckless]

Damn Damn good Idea!!

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